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	<title>Comments on: Molly Ivins</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-210043</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, get a life.

John, watch the language. We don&#039;t tolerate that type of name calling on this site, even if it&#039;s directed at somebody who deserves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, get a life.</p>
<p>John, watch the language. We don&#8217;t tolerate that type of name calling on this site, even if it&#8217;s directed at somebody who deserves it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tanner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-209933</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck you, Mark Powell.  You&#039;re an asshole.  She just died of cancer.  Have a heart, or at least a sense of social appropriateness.

Regardless of your thoughts on her political leanings, she cared deeply about her country and your state.

And she&#039;s done more to keep things in line, to the benefit of Texas and the nation as a whole, than I&#039;m betting you ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck you, Mark Powell.  You&#8217;re an asshole.  She just died of cancer.  Have a heart, or at least a sense of social appropriateness.</p>
<p>Regardless of your thoughts on her political leanings, she cared deeply about her country and your state.</p>
<p>And she&#8217;s done more to keep things in line, to the benefit of Texas and the nation as a whole, than I&#8217;m betting you ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: esmense</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-209906</link>
		<dc:creator>esmense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to being someone who had long covered Texas politics, Molly actually knew W from as far back as high school. (Her father was an oil executive -- she and young Bush shared a similar Houston social set.) So it was natural, when he began to make a political career in Texas,  and after he moved on to the national scene, that she would, and would be asked to, write about him. (By the way, Molly shared with Bush the trait of presenting themselves in a manner quite a bit more folksy than their upbringing makes credible.)

It may be that those who don&#039;t get her humor find it difficult or unseemly to laugh human foibles and frailties in general because its too close to laughing at themselves. Ivins made no bones about being a liberal, but her wit was aimed at Democrats and Republicans alike. Like anyone with a long writing career, some of her efforts were much less successful than others, still, when she was in top form she could make you laugh from the very bottom of your soul. Not because she was writing about Republicans, or Democrats, but because she was writing about -- and beautifully puncturing -- human absurdity, and our great capacity for self-delusion, dishonesty and pretense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being someone who had long covered Texas politics, Molly actually knew W from as far back as high school. (Her father was an oil executive &#8212; she and young Bush shared a similar Houston social set.) So it was natural, when he began to make a political career in Texas,  and after he moved on to the national scene, that she would, and would be asked to, write about him. (By the way, Molly shared with Bush the trait of presenting themselves in a manner quite a bit more folksy than their upbringing makes credible.)</p>
<p>It may be that those who don&#8217;t get her humor find it difficult or unseemly to laugh human foibles and frailties in general because its too close to laughing at themselves. Ivins made no bones about being a liberal, but her wit was aimed at Democrats and Republicans alike. Like anyone with a long writing career, some of her efforts were much less successful than others, still, when she was in top form she could make you laugh from the very bottom of your soul. Not because she was writing about Republicans, or Democrats, but because she was writing about &#8212; and beautifully puncturing &#8212; human absurdity, and our great capacity for self-delusion, dishonesty and pretense.</p>
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		<title>By: mark powell</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-209688</link>
		<dc:creator>mark powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good riddance Molly Ivins...It &#039;s a great day in Texas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddance Molly Ivins&#8230;It &#8217;s a great day in Texas!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if a conservative could ever apologize for making an error, we&#039;d really be on to something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if a conservative could ever apologize for making an error, we&#8217;d really be on to something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. You&#039;ll have to ask her. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. You&#8217;ll have to ask her. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: big dirigible</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>big dirigible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So do tell - did her realization that she had her facts fantastically wrong lead her to modify any of her conclusions? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do tell &#8211; did her realization that she had her facts fantastically wrong lead her to modify any of her conclusions?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She still writes about both. But you can&#039;t fault somebody for writing about something they know a lot about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She still writes about both. But you can&#8217;t fault somebody for writing about something they know a lot about.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what sort of market did she have as a writer about Texas politics vs. her stature now as a writer about the Bush dynasty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what sort of market did she have as a writer about Texas politics vs. her stature now as a writer about the Bush dynasty?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Pouncer. 

Sure, she&#039;s hitched her wagon to that gravy train, but the gravy has been flowing for quite some time. Texas politics has been shown to be particularly suspect (redistricting, DeLay&#039;s fundraising, Dems hightailing it out of the state) so Ivins hasn&#039;t really ever had to do much searching for things to write about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Pouncer. </p>
<p>Sure, she&#8217;s hitched her wagon to that gravy train, but the gravy has been flowing for quite some time. Texas politics has been shown to be particularly suspect (redistricting, DeLay&#8217;s fundraising, Dems hightailing it out of the state) so Ivins hasn&#8217;t really ever had to do much searching for things to write about.</p>
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		<title>By: Pouncer</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Pouncer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... a writer who has hitched her career to the gravy train of writing about the despicable details of Southern conservatives ...  is [n]ever going to be much use to a political center.&quot;

Respectfully disagree.  Her career has been hitched to writing about the despicable details of Texas politics in general -- when Democrats controlled the state she was hard on them.  Now the other guys are in the catbird seat  --since she&#039;s plinking away in the same direction as always she&#039;s now more likely to hit Rep than Dems.  Eh.  

It&#039;s interesting to me how she combines excellent observation and reportage on the process of politics with truly wrong-headed analysis of the same.  For instance her books are full of examples that could go straight into a &quot;public choice economics&quot; textbook -- where cartels of florists, undertakers, hair dressers and real estate agents all converge on the Texas Legislature clamoring to be protected -- or &quot;regulated&quot;.  She sees and tells that current owners of such businesses will be grandfathered into sinecures while any upstart competitors will be force to jump thru prohibitive legal hoops -- then comes out in FAVOR of regulation anyhow. &quot;Bless their hearts, they&#039;re small town citizens trying to make this poor sorry corner of the world a safer place and if they put a few dollars in their pockets doin&#039; it, well who&#039;s got a problem with that?&#039;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; a writer who has hitched her career to the gravy train of writing about the despicable details of Southern conservatives &#8230;  is [n]ever going to be much use to a political center.&#8221;</p>
<p>Respectfully disagree.  Her career has been hitched to writing about the despicable details of Texas politics in general &#8212; when Democrats controlled the state she was hard on them.  Now the other guys are in the catbird seat  &#8211;since she&#8217;s plinking away in the same direction as always she&#8217;s now more likely to hit Rep than Dems.  Eh.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me how she combines excellent observation and reportage on the process of politics with truly wrong-headed analysis of the same.  For instance her books are full of examples that could go straight into a &#8220;public choice economics&#8221; textbook &#8212; where cartels of florists, undertakers, hair dressers and real estate agents all converge on the Texas Legislature clamoring to be protected &#8212; or &#8220;regulated&#8221;.  She sees and tells that current owners of such businesses will be grandfathered into sinecures while any upstart competitors will be force to jump thru prohibitive legal hoops &#8212; then comes out in FAVOR of regulation anyhow. &#8220;Bless their hearts, they&#8217;re small town citizens trying to make this poor sorry corner of the world a safer place and if they put a few dollars in their pockets doin&#8217; it, well who&#8217;s got a problem with that?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my part I&#039;m having a hard time imagining that a writer who has hitched her career to the gravy train of writing about the despicable details of Southern conservatives, and George W. Bush in particular, is ever going to be much use to a political center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part I&#8217;m having a hard time imagining that a writer who has hitched her career to the gravy train of writing about the despicable details of Southern conservatives, and George W. Bush in particular, is ever going to be much use to a political center.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Wishard</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Wishard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean that she&#039;s going to stop spelling &quot;government&quot; as &quot;gummint&quot;?  Does this mean that I will no longer hear ambient banjo music when I read her column?

And she writes: &quot;I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein, whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades.&quot;

In all of those decades of pestering Saddam Hussein for human rights abuses, she never noticed that he had murdered hundreds of thousands of people?  

We&#039;re getting pretty desperate in our search for sanity, here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that she&#8217;s going to stop spelling &#8220;government&#8221; as &#8220;gummint&#8221;?  Does this mean that I will no longer hear ambient banjo music when I read her column?</p>
<p>And she writes: &#8220;I was certainly under no illusions regarding Saddam Hussein, whom I have opposed through human rights work for decades.&#8221;</p>
<p>In all of those decades of pestering Saddam Hussein for human rights abuses, she never noticed that he had murdered hundreds of thousands of people?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting pretty desperate in our search for sanity, here.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/07/13/253/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for her. 

Personally, I like Ivins and I think she often makes some pretty valid points, but she went to far down the &quot;we killed more than they did&quot; rabbit hole. It&#039;s good to see her say &quot;I was wrong.&quot; I can&#039;t help but feel this is going to promote some amount of healing within the reasonable middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for her. </p>
<p>Personally, I like Ivins and I think she often makes some pretty valid points, but she went to far down the &#8220;we killed more than they did&#8221; rabbit hole. It&#8217;s good to see her say &#8220;I was wrong.&#8221; I can&#8217;t help but feel this is going to promote some amount of healing within the reasonable middle.</p>
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