Why?

By Justin Gardner | Related entries in The War On Terrorism

Explain to me why this is going to help us win the war on terrorism.

From The Washington Post:

The Bush administration in recent days has been lobbying to block legislation supported by Republican senators that would bar the U.S. military from engaging in “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment” of detainees, from hiding prisoners from the Red Cross, and from using interrogation methods not authorized by a new Army field manual.

Hiding prisoners from the Red Cross? Engaging in cruel and inhumane treatment? And this is how the White House is responding?

The White House, in a further indication of its strong feelings, bluntly warned in a statement sent to Capitol Hill on Thursday that President Bush’s advisers would urge him to veto the $442 billion defense bill “if legislation is presented that would restrict the President’s authority to protect Americans effectively from terrorist attack and bring terrorists to justice.”

More rhetoric about protecting America so they can have a blank check to do anything they want to anybody in the world. Listen, I know a lot of you reading this right now might be thinking, “Well, the enemy isn’t humane to us.” Yes, exactly. If we’re really behind the idea of spreading Democracy, let’s also be behind the ideals that Democracy carries with it, instead of just paying them lip service.

So, who’s behind this very contentious amendment? I’ll give you one guess.

The threat was a veiled reference to legislation drafted by McCain and being circulated among at least 10 Republican senators, Senate aides said. No effort has been made by McCain to cultivate Democratic support, although his aides predict he could get it easily. John Ullyot, a Warner spokesman, said that the senator has been working with McCain and [Lindsey] Graham on detainee legislation and that “the matter continues to be studied.”

A spokeswoman for McCain, Andrea Jones, said yesterday that McCain plans to introduce the legislation next week. McCain, who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, has criticized the way detainees have been treated by U.S. forces and is said by aides to want to cut off further abuse by requiring that the military adhere to its own interrogation rules in all cases.

One McCain amendment would set uniform standards for interrogating anyone detained by the Defense Department and would limit interrogation techniques to those listed in the Army field manual on interrogation, now being revised. Any changes to procedures would require the defense secretary to appear before Congress.

McCain “gets it.” He realizes that “cruel, inhuman or degrading” torture begats more “cruel, inhuman or degrading” torture. It’s called escalation, and the Bush administration should be well aware of its causes and effects. And let me say that when you’re fighting an idea like terrorism, you can’t try to beat them at their own game. It just makes the idea grow bigger and bigger.

Lindsey Graham, a co-author of the amendment, also understands why this is important.

Graham, who has been outspoken on the need for Congress to get involved in the issue of detainee treatment, said in an interview that he intends to pursue additional amendments that would define the term “enemy combatant” for purposes of detention and regulate the military trials of detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.

Graham said he believes that his amendment would strengthen the president’s ability to pursue the war on terror because it would give congressional support to the process of prosecuting detainees after they are transferred to Cuba, an issue that has been hotly contested in federal courts. “Every administration is reluctant to not have as much authority as possible,” Graham said, adding that he has gotten mixed signals from the White House. “But we need congressional buy-in to Guantanamo.”

They’re trying to find common ground. The Administration is continuing it’s march further off into the weeds.

I for one hope McCain and Graham’s ideas win.

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7 Responses to “Why?”

  1. J. Thomas Duffy Says:

    Justin

    When it comes to “protecting America”, this administration is long past banking on getting a “blank check” … They’ll forge one, if necessary

    Peace
    JTD

  2. Rafique Tucker Says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more. This seems open and shut to me. Graham, McCain, and Warner are hardly “moonbats,” and I cannot figure out why the Adminstration and its supporters regards any attempt to deal with this issue as undermining the WOT.

    Abuses like this put our soldiers in harm’s way.

  3. Aaron Says:

    Probably because these techniques work. (See The Interrogators and the waterboarding of that one guy, though that was CIA.) Still, doesn’t mean we have to do it.

  4. Matt Weiner Says:

    I agree that the McCain-Warner-Graham amendment is admirable, but I’m having trouble reconciling your statement:
    “They’re trying to find common ground.”
    with this quote from the article:
    “No effort has been made by McCain to cultivate Democratic support, although his aides predict he could get it easily.”
    Why cut Democrats out of the process?

  5. Justin Gardner Says:

    I believe the article says that it’s assumed that the Dems will follow McCain’s lead.

    In actuality, this is probably the reason.

    The Republican effort is intended partly to cut off an effort by Senate Democrats to attach more stringent demands to the defense bill regarding detainees. One group, led by Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), has proposed an amendment calling for an independent commission — similar to the Sept. 11 commission — to look into administration policies on interrogation and detainee abuse.

    Personally, I’d be open to this as well, but asking Republican’s to put their own President up for scrutiny simply isn’t going to happen.

    That’s not to say it shouldn’t happen, but let’s get these limits in place first and then we can worry about accountability for past indiscretions.

  6. Pouncer Says:

    I suppose there is absolutely no principled case to be made for the notion that the constitutionally commissioned commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces is protecting his turf, and the constitution, from incursion by a separate branch of government?

  7. Justin Gardner Says:

    You see somebody protecting their turf, I see somebody setting dangerous precedents regarding torture. Looking at it from your perspective, I think it can honestly be seen as both.

    Also, I understand WHY they want that option on the table, but even Republican Senators are saying nobody should have that right. I agree with the people proposing and drafting the amendment.

    Do you not? And if not, then where do you think no-limits on torture will lead?

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