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	<title>Comments on: RIP Steven Vincent</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Steven Vincent&#8217;s Widow Speaks</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/08/03/rip-steven-vincent/comment-page-1/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Steven Vincent&#8217;s Widow Speaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He was a fellow blogger, a reporter and a hero. Callimachus posted a very good entry about Steven Vincent&#8217;s death last week in fact. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/08/03/rip-steven-vincent/comment-page-1/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 02:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaed - it seems the British reports may have mischaracterized the relationship. See the comments thread on a version of this post I cross-posted at &lt;a&gt;&lt;b&gt;Winds of Change.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Among them is this:
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&lt;i&gt;As a good friend of both Steven Vincent and his wife, I can assure you that Noor was NOT a fiance! He had infinite respect for her and the difficulties her life had entailed. Knowing as he did what the consequences for a woman would be to have a relationship that was not approved by her family and her culture, he would not have placed her in such a position. He cared for yes, loved her as a close associate, and I am sure would be relieved to know that not only did she survive the ordeal that befell them, and proud (but not surprised) that in her pain she still showed her courage and anger when she yelled at the police when they finally showed up. I am personally confident that any gossip about them is due to the fact that Noor bucked the &quot;tribal&quot; norm and was a thorn under the saddle of many. To speculate about their relationship at this time is damaging not only to Steven&#039;s deep sense of honor, his love for his wife and his respect for Noor, but to the fact that these were two brave souls who banded together in search of truth. Please, let&#039;s have no more of this tabloid-sounding stuff !&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaed &#8211; it seems the British reports may have mischaracterized the relationship. See the comments thread on a version of this post I cross-posted at <a><b>Winds of Change.</b></a> Among them is this:</p>
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<i>As a good friend of both Steven Vincent and his wife, I can assure you that Noor was NOT a fiance! He had infinite respect for her and the difficulties her life had entailed. Knowing as he did what the consequences for a woman would be to have a relationship that was not approved by her family and her culture, he would not have placed her in such a position. He cared for yes, loved her as a close associate, and I am sure would be relieved to know that not only did she survive the ordeal that befell them, and proud (but not surprised) that in her pain she still showed her courage and anger when she yelled at the police when they finally showed up. I am personally confident that any gossip about them is due to the fact that Noor bucked the &#8220;tribal&#8221; norm and was a thorn under the saddle of many. To speculate about their relationship at this time is damaging not only to Steven&#8217;s deep sense of honor, his love for his wife and his respect for Noor, but to the fact that these were two brave souls who banded together in search of truth. Please, let&#8217;s have no more of this tabloid-sounding stuff !</i>
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		<title>By: jaed</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/08/03/rip-steven-vincent/comment-page-1/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>jaed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The translator, Nouriya Itais, was VincentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s fiancee. She was shot four times but survived. It also is possible that VincentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s killing was motivated in part by his romantic involvement with a local woman.&lt;/i&gt;

Steven Vincent left a wife Lisa in New York, or so I have read in several sources. Could someone be spreading rumors (heard by the Times reporter) to discredit him or the translator, perhaps? (Or maybe I&#039;m being paranoid and it&#039;s just a misunderstanding. But either way I do not think it&#039;s accurate.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The translator, Nouriya Itais, was VincentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s fiancee. She was shot four times but survived. It also is possible that VincentÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s killing was motivated in part by his romantic involvement with a local woman.</i></p>
<p>Steven Vincent left a wife Lisa in New York, or so I have read in several sources. Could someone be spreading rumors (heard by the Times reporter) to discredit him or the translator, perhaps? (Or maybe I&#8217;m being paranoid and it&#8217;s just a misunderstanding. But either way I do not think it&#8217;s accurate.)</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/08/03/rip-steven-vincent/comment-page-1/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you being deliberately obtuse, Tom? The &quot;cops&quot; are almost certainly the ones who murdered Vincent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you being deliberately obtuse, Tom? The &#8220;cops&#8221; are almost certainly the ones who murdered Vincent.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/08/03/rip-steven-vincent/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This needs MUCH more publicity.

All political assasinations, including the PA assasins of Hamas &amp; Fatah, need to be more publicized.  If the state can NOT protect you, you must do what the terrorists want or else depend on yourself to protect yourself.  Or run.

See Harry Potter #6 on Diagon Alley and the change in a Fear society.

The problem is that the cops do NOT punish the criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This needs MUCH more publicity.</p>
<p>All political assasinations, including the PA assasins of Hamas &amp; Fatah, need to be more publicized.  If the state can NOT protect you, you must do what the terrorists want or else depend on yourself to protect yourself.  Or run.</p>
<p>See Harry Potter #6 on Diagon Alley and the change in a Fear society.</p>
<p>The problem is that the cops do NOT punish the criminals.</p>
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