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	<title>Comments on: Hooray for Wal-Mart</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/07/hooray-for-wal-mart/comment-page-1/#comment-2012</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite what libertarians say, some government functions can never be privatized nor would you want those functions to be privatized (would Blackwater do a better job if left to their own devices?). 

And I hate to sound cynical, but this could be some PR move by Wal-mart also, but nonetheless, kudos to W-M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite what libertarians say, some government functions can never be privatized nor would you want those functions to be privatized (would Blackwater do a better job if left to their own devices?). </p>
<p>And I hate to sound cynical, but this could be some PR move by Wal-mart also, but nonetheless, kudos to W-M.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/07/hooray-for-wal-mart/comment-page-1/#comment-2009</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporations are good supporters (and sometimes equally good subverters) of democracy, but they should never actually &quot;become&quot; the government. That&#039;s putting moral decisions in the hands of amoral entities. 

And as we all know by now, the bottom line always wins out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporations are good supporters (and sometimes equally good subverters) of democracy, but they should never actually &#8220;become&#8221; the government. That&#8217;s putting moral decisions in the hands of amoral entities. </p>
<p>And as we all know by now, the bottom line always wins out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim other</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/07/hooray-for-wal-mart/comment-page-1/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The government is gone, replaced by large corporations, including one very much like Wal-Mart. People purchase memberships in them and largely sort themselves out according to the sort of class-based ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œtribesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? that have been discussed in relation to the New Orleans survivors.&quot;

A few months ago this kind of arrangement was the topic of discussion over at Samizdata. I made the comment, which interested no one BTW, that we didn&#039;t need to engage in some thought experiment, there were lots of real-life examples to study. &quot;Benevolent protective associations&quot; otherwise known as &quot;&quot;Triads&quot; are the Chinese version of this. They sound good in theory, but the fly in the ointment is that the &quot;customers&quot; do not have any real option as to who they choose to protect them. The triad protecting hs no reason to let them or their fees go, and the triad has a monopoly on the effective use of violence. What you end up with is a non-territorial form of feudalism, and it can get very bloody and chaotic very fast. In other words, the market model can&#039;t be made to apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The government is gone, replaced by large corporations, including one very much like Wal-Mart. People purchase memberships in them and largely sort themselves out according to the sort of class-based ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œtribesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? that have been discussed in relation to the New Orleans survivors.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few months ago this kind of arrangement was the topic of discussion over at Samizdata. I made the comment, which interested no one BTW, that we didn&#8217;t need to engage in some thought experiment, there were lots of real-life examples to study. &#8220;Benevolent protective associations&#8221; otherwise known as &#8220;&#8221;Triads&#8221; are the Chinese version of this. They sound good in theory, but the fly in the ointment is that the &#8220;customers&#8221; do not have any real option as to who they choose to protect them. The triad protecting hs no reason to let them or their fees go, and the triad has a monopoly on the effective use of violence. What you end up with is a non-territorial form of feudalism, and it can get very bloody and chaotic very fast. In other words, the market model can&#8217;t be made to apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/07/hooray-for-wal-mart/comment-page-1/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to introduce obscure science fiction novels at a time of national crisis, but so much of this reminds me of the future world portrayed in Neal Stephenson&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/snowcrash.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;Snowcrash.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The government is gone, replaced by large corporations, including one very much like Wal-Mart. People purchase memberships in them and largely sort themselves out according to the sort of class-based &quot;tribes&quot; that have been discussed in relation to the New Orleans survivors.

The thing is, even in the dark vision of Stephenson&#039;s cyberpunk novel, some of these corporations, when well-run, were worthy and efficient protectors of their members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to introduce obscure science fiction novels at a time of national crisis, but so much of this reminds me of the future world portrayed in Neal Stephenson&#8217;s <a href="http://project.cyberpunk.ru/idb/snowcrash.html" ><b>&#8220;Snowcrash.&#8221;</b></a></p>
<p>The government is gone, replaced by large corporations, including one very much like Wal-Mart. People purchase memberships in them and largely sort themselves out according to the sort of class-based &#8220;tribes&#8221; that have been discussed in relation to the New Orleans survivors.</p>
<p>The thing is, even in the dark vision of Stephenson&#8217;s cyberpunk novel, some of these corporations, when well-run, were worthy and efficient protectors of their members.</p>
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		<title>By: debsay</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/07/hooray-for-wal-mart/comment-page-1/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>debsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why most conservatives believe in in the private sector, there isn&#039;t all the posturing and red tape bullshit that goes on, you know, the lies and smears against the people in the other political party.....  it reall makes me so angry that we can&#039;t be Americans first - screw party affiliation and get something done, but then politics immediately begins with the posturing to further personal careers.... just sickening!!  that&#039;s why I don&#039;t have much faith in a &#039;commission&#039; to investigate this.   We both know that it will just be politicians trying to spin everything that comes out of it their way, and some of the spin are downright lies!!!!  

The private sector, being smaller than the Federal government, can get things accomplished so much better for multiple reasons.  In this case, the Wal-Mart stores have warehouses spread out all over the country (several in every urban area) and that are constantly stocked and refilled which makes it logical for the private sector to provide resources in a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why most conservatives believe in in the private sector, there isn&#8217;t all the posturing and red tape bullshit that goes on, you know, the lies and smears against the people in the other political party&#8230;..  it reall makes me so angry that we can&#8217;t be Americans first &#8211; screw party affiliation and get something done, but then politics immediately begins with the posturing to further personal careers&#8230;. just sickening!!  that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t have much faith in a &#8216;commission&#8217; to investigate this.   We both know that it will just be politicians trying to spin everything that comes out of it their way, and some of the spin are downright lies!!!!  </p>
<p>The private sector, being smaller than the Federal government, can get things accomplished so much better for multiple reasons.  In this case, the Wal-Mart stores have warehouses spread out all over the country (several in every urban area) and that are constantly stocked and refilled which makes it logical for the private sector to provide resources in a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: N. Mallory</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. Mallory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been very proud of Wal-mart the last two weeks.  Maybe they should be running the disaster relief efforts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been very proud of Wal-mart the last two weeks.  Maybe they should be running the disaster relief efforts&#8230;</p>
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