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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Hamza Rabia</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/09/12/the-story-of-tora-bora/comment-page-1/#comment-381393</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamza Rabia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US nor  the entire world army can beat this army, Tora Bora is the land of martyrs and victors, it shall never be conquered.
buying out warlords blah blah or making the poor population feel whatever you want would not change anything, why dont you realise even with such limited resources your world armies cannot end this struggle.
in the glare of burning churches you shall see the word Jihad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US nor  the entire world army can beat this army, Tora Bora is the land of martyrs and victors, it shall never be conquered.<br />
buying out warlords blah blah or making the poor population feel whatever you want would not change anything, why dont you realise even with such limited resources your world armies cannot end this struggle.<br />
in the glare of burning churches you shall see the word Jihad!</p>
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		<title>By: SPC Michael J. Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPC Michael J. Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only is Kerry a moron, but so are the people that agree with him.  Bush didn&#039;t &quot;outsource&quot; anything.  I doubt that Kerry or any of the people aligned with him even understand what the mission of US Special Forces is.  You do know it was SOCOM that commanded that mission, right?  SOCOM... as in Special Operations Command... as in the people who command US Special Forces... as in the people who train and prepare indigenous militias... How could Bush have stopped the cease-fire when the cease-fire was dealt by AFGHANS??  WOW, some civilians are so retarded...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only is Kerry a moron, but so are the people that agree with him.  Bush didn&#8217;t &#8220;outsource&#8221; anything.  I doubt that Kerry or any of the people aligned with him even understand what the mission of US Special Forces is.  You do know it was SOCOM that commanded that mission, right?  SOCOM&#8230; as in Special Operations Command&#8230; as in the people who command US Special Forces&#8230; as in the people who train and prepare indigenous militias&#8230; How could Bush have stopped the cease-fire when the cease-fire was dealt by AFGHANS??  WOW, some civilians are so retarded&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry is right. Bush as commander in chief must have been watching closely. It was Bush&#039;s call whether to allow the cease fire that allowed Osama to escape.  Bush could have stopped it at any time but didn&#039;t. There is something very fishy about this. Five years later Bush promises again to catch Osama, but when he had him, he let him go. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry is right. Bush as commander in chief must have been watching closely. It was Bush&#8217;s call whether to allow the cease fire that allowed Osama to escape.  Bush could have stopped it at any time but didn&#8217;t. There is something very fishy about this. Five years later Bush promises again to catch Osama, but when he had him, he let him go. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the entire operation in Afghanistan relied largely on cooperation with local forces and in letting the people of Afghanistan feel they were freeing themselves, not being invaded. That&#039;s part of the reason it worked as it did. Unfortunately, in this case, it appears to have allowed Bin Laden to slip away. But I don&#039;t think the idea was wrong in principle. It&#039;s easy to say so in hindsight. That hardly is leadership, though. The U.S. stuck with a plan that worked for one play too many.

It&#039;s not &quot;outsourcing&quot; if they&#039;re in their own country. It&#039;s the same thing we should be trying to do in Iraq; give the locals real control and authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the entire operation in Afghanistan relied largely on cooperation with local forces and in letting the people of Afghanistan feel they were freeing themselves, not being invaded. That&#8217;s part of the reason it worked as it did. Unfortunately, in this case, it appears to have allowed Bin Laden to slip away. But I don&#8217;t think the idea was wrong in principle. It&#8217;s easy to say so in hindsight. That hardly is leadership, though. The U.S. stuck with a plan that worked for one play too many.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;outsourcing&#8221; if they&#8217;re in their own country. It&#8217;s the same thing we should be trying to do in Iraq; give the locals real control and authority.</p>
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		<title>By: Montag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember it well.

This is how Melanie Kirkpatrick characterized the frequency of Kerry&#039;s Tora Bora &quot;formulation.&quot; (From the October 14, 2004 WSJ op-ed page.):
&lt;blockquote&gt;As John Kerry tells it, Tora Bora is the place where President Bush let Osama bin Laden get away. In &lt;strong&gt;the candidate&#039;s oft-repeated formulation,&lt;/strong&gt; the al Qaeda leader was &quot;surrounded&quot; and escaped only because the president &quot;outsourced&quot; the job of capturing him to Afghan warlords.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005754&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tora Bora Baloney&lt;/a&gt;


When documents were released ths past March that told what happened in Tora Bora, this is what CNN said about the frequency of Kerry&#039;s campaign assertions:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John &lt;strong&gt;Kerry repeatedly asserted&lt;/strong&gt; that President Bush let bin Laden escape by using Afghan forces instead of American troops against al Qaeda in Tora Bora.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
CNN.com: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Document suggests bin Laden escaped at Tora Bora&lt;/a&gt;


And here is one example of Kerry making such an assertion from the first Presidential debate:
&lt;blockquote&gt;[KERRY] ...I would not take my eye off of the goal: Osama bin Laden.

KERRY: Unfortunately, he escaped in the mountains of Tora Bora. We had him surrounded. But we didn&#039;t use American forces, the best trained in the world, to go kill him. The president relied on Afghan warlords and he outsourced that job too. That&#039;s wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_0930.html&quot; title=&quot;Washington Post&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Presidential Debate Between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember it well.</p>
<p>This is how Melanie Kirkpatrick characterized the frequency of Kerry&#8217;s Tora Bora &#8220;formulation.&#8221; (From the October 14, 2004 WSJ op-ed page.):</p>
<blockquote><p>As John Kerry tells it, Tora Bora is the place where President Bush let Osama bin Laden get away. In <strong>the candidate&#8217;s oft-repeated formulation,</strong> the al Qaeda leader was &#8220;surrounded&#8221; and escaped only because the president &#8220;outsourced&#8221; the job of capturing him to Afghan warlords.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005754" >Tora Bora Baloney</a></p>
<p>When documents were released ths past March that told what happened in Tora Bora, this is what CNN said about the frequency of Kerry&#8217;s campaign assertions:</p>
<blockquote><p>Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John <strong>Kerry repeatedly asserted</strong> that President Bush let bin Laden escape by using Afghan forces instead of American troops against al Qaeda in Tora Bora.</p></blockquote>
<p>CNN.com: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/24/pentagon.binladen/" >Document suggests bin Laden escaped at Tora Bora</a></p>
<p>And here is one example of Kerry making such an assertion from the first Presidential debate:</p>
<blockquote><p>[KERRY] &#8230;I would not take my eye off of the goal: Osama bin Laden.</p>
<p>KERRY: Unfortunately, he escaped in the mountains of Tora Bora. We had him surrounded. But we didn&#8217;t use American forces, the best trained in the world, to go kill him. The president relied on Afghan warlords and he outsourced that job too. That&#8217;s wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_0930.html" title="Washington Post" >Presidential Debate Between President Bush and Sen. John F. Kerry</a></p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious which Kerry that was. I don&#039;t recall reading that he had been going on and on in the summer of 2004 about there not having been enough troops in Afghanistan in December 2001.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious which Kerry that was. I don&#8217;t recall reading that he had been going on and on in the summer of 2004 about there not having been enough troops in Afghanistan in December 2001.</p>
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