Comments on: Karl Rove And The Case Of The Missing Email http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Joel http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/comment-page-1/#comment-716292 Joel Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:19:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/#comment-716292 I remember this - a blast from the past. I wouldn't comment, except I'm curious as to whether or not there were any penalties for Rove, or if he escaped scrutiny on this one... I remember this – a blast from the past. I wouldn’t comment, except I’m curious as to whether or not there were any penalties for Rove, or if he escaped scrutiny on this one…

]]> By: Tom Maguire http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2884 Tom Maguire Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:54:17 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/#comment-2884 FWIW - the DoJ made a document request in late September 2003 - White House aides were: <i>directed to provide to the Counsel's Office, by no later than 5 p.m. on October 7, 2003, copies of the following documents, created during the time period February 1, 2002, through September 30, 2003, inclusive: 1. All documents that relate in any way to former U.S. Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, his trip to Niger in February 2002, or his wife's purported relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency; and 2. All documents that relate in any way to a contact with any member or representative of the news media about Joseph C. Wilson, his trip to Niger in February 2002, or his wife's purported relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency; and 3. All documents that relate in any way to a contact with any or all of the following: reporters Knut Royce, Timothy M. Phelps, or Robert D. Novak, or any individual(s) acting directly or indirectly on behalf of them.</i> Clearly, the Rove-Hadley e-mail qualifies under (1) or (2), now that we know what is was about. However, here is how the AP described it: <i>"Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he's got a welfare-reform story coming," Mr. Rove wrote Mr. Hadley, who since has risen to the top job of national security adviser. "When he finished his brief heads-up, he immediately launched into Niger. Isn't this damaging? Hasn't the president been hurt? I didn't take the bait, but I said if I were him, I wouldn't get Time far out in front on this." </i> No apparent mention of Wilson; Niger is a red flag, but the 16 Word controversy was raging (Tenet took the fall later that same day), and there may have been many, many e-mails that mentioned Niger in that context, rather than as part of the Wilson trip. Whatever. Fitzgerald took over the case, and issued a new round of subpoenas in Jan 2004. He specifically asked for correspondence amongst the WHIG, and extended the list of relevant reporters to include Cooper. And this time, the e-mail was found, since it mentioned Cooper, and was between two members of the WHIG. Not a great story, but not absurd, either. FWIW – the DoJ made a document request in late September 2003 – White House aides were:

directed to provide to the Counsel’s
Office, by no later than 5 p.m. on October 7, 2003, copies of
the following documents, created during the time period February 1,
2002, through September 30, 2003, inclusive:

1. All documents that relate in any way to former U.S. Ambassador
Joseph C. Wilson, his trip to Niger in February 2002, or his wife’s
purported relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency; and

2. All documents that relate in any way to a contact with any
member or representative of the news media about Joseph C. Wilson,
his trip to Niger in February 2002, or his wife’s purported
relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency; and

3. All documents that relate in any way to a contact with any
or all of the following: reporters Knut Royce, Timothy M. Phelps,
or Robert D. Novak, or any individual(s) acting directly or
indirectly on behalf of them.

Clearly, the Rove-Hadley e-mail qualifies under (1) or (2), now that we know what is was about. However, here is how the AP described it:

“Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he’s got a welfare-reform story coming,” Mr. Rove wrote Mr. Hadley, who since has risen to the top job of national security adviser.

“When he finished his brief heads-up, he immediately launched into Niger. Isn’t this damaging? Hasn’t the president been hurt? I didn’t take the bait, but I said if I were him, I wouldn’t get Time far out in front on this.”

No apparent mention of Wilson; Niger is a red flag, but the 16 Word controversy was raging (Tenet took the fall later that same day), and there may have been many, many e-mails that mentioned Niger in that context, rather than as part of the Wilson trip.

Whatever. Fitzgerald took over the case, and issued a new round of subpoenas in Jan 2004. He specifically asked for correspondence amongst the WHIG, and extended the list of relevant reporters to include Cooper.

And this time, the e-mail was found, since it mentioned Cooper, and was between two members of the WHIG.

Not a great story, but not absurd, either.

]]> By: MnMnM http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2785 MnMnM Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:36:27 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2005/10/09/karl-rove-and-the-case-of-the-missing-email-2/#comment-2785 Grand Jury testimony of Karl Rove leaked by Rove-ing reporter (fictional). Please keep my identity a secret. Double super Secret. I could call in and have my voice disguised and/or my face blocked out. Please send me an email if you plan to use this. Thanks. Middle-aged, Middle-of-the-road, Mid-Westerner MnMnM50@hotmail.com Testimony of Karl Rove, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff (of the United States) [COSTUS]. How much will COSTUS cost us? It is posted at: http://rovesayswholeakedfirst.blogspot.com/ Grand Jury testimony of Karl Rove leaked by Rove-ing reporter (fictional). Please keep my identity a secret. Double super Secret. I could call in and have my voice disguised and/or my face blocked out. Please send me an email if you plan to use this. Thanks.

Middle-aged, Middle-of-the-road, Mid-Westerner
MnMnM50@hotmail.com

Testimony of Karl Rove, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff (of the United States) [COSTUS]. How much will COSTUS cost us?

It is posted at: http://rovesayswholeakedfirst.blogspot.com/

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