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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/10/19/quote-of-the-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a primer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a primer:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B</a></p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/10/19/quote-of-the-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-2940</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, Churchill&#039;s rhetoric is stirring. And as always, the political reality is a bit more gritty. In fact, Britain had its detention policy in place even before the Second World War began. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, Churchill&#8217;s rhetoric is stirring. And as always, the political reality is a bit more gritty. In fact, Britain had its detention policy in place even before the Second World War began. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Regulation_18B" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/10/19/quote-of-the-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-2938</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This illustrates exactly why I think it&#039;s wrong.

&lt;blockquote&gt;When the war is over maybe weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll let them go.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So when exactly is &quot;Terror&quot; going to be defeated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This illustrates exactly why I think it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<blockquote><p>When the war is over maybe weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll let them go.</p></blockquote>
<p>So when exactly is &#8220;Terror&#8221; going to be defeated?</p>
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		<title>By: David McKinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David McKinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see them as prisoners of war. When the war is over maybe we&#039;ll let them go.

On the other hand, I don&#039;t want the political whirlwind of this war, from either side, brought into our judicial system. It&#039;s loopy enough as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see them as prisoners of war. When the war is over maybe we&#8217;ll let them go.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t want the political whirlwind of this war, from either side, brought into our judicial system. It&#8217;s loopy enough as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/10/19/quote-of-the-day-4/comment-page-1/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Guess it depends on whether you think they are being held as potential criminals or because they are enemy combatants captured while they were engaged in actions against us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s just the problem. Not all of them were capture while engage in actions against us. However, many on the &quot;pro&quot; side of the enemy combatant argument seem to selectively forget this fact. 

Listen, I&#039;m in favor of holding people who we&#039;ve fought against, but at a certain point we have to charge them. Imagine us doing this to the Nazis. We hold them because we think they&#039;ll do some &quot;Nazi&quot; stuff later on. It&#039;s ridiculous.

The situation here is that we don&#039;t really have much on a lot of these guys (and many have been released at some point after being held for a couple years) and we&#039;re afraid that if we let them go, they&#039;ll go do terrorist stuff. Well, thems the brakes. But holding people indefinitely seems ridiculous to me, given we&#039;re fighting a war against an idea. You can&#039;t &quot;win&quot; wars against ideas, but you can marginalized the idea enough that it&#039;s a nuisance instead of a grave threat. Will we release them at that time? Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Guess it depends on whether you think they are being held as potential criminals or because they are enemy combatants captured while they were engaged in actions against us.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s just the problem. Not all of them were capture while engage in actions against us. However, many on the &#8220;pro&#8221; side of the enemy combatant argument seem to selectively forget this fact. </p>
<p>Listen, I&#8217;m in favor of holding people who we&#8217;ve fought against, but at a certain point we have to charge them. Imagine us doing this to the Nazis. We hold them because we think they&#8217;ll do some &#8220;Nazi&#8221; stuff later on. It&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>The situation here is that we don&#8217;t really have much on a lot of these guys (and many have been released at some point after being held for a couple years) and we&#8217;re afraid that if we let them go, they&#8217;ll go do terrorist stuff. Well, thems the brakes. But holding people indefinitely seems ridiculous to me, given we&#8217;re fighting a war against an idea. You can&#8217;t &#8220;win&#8221; wars against ideas, but you can marginalized the idea enough that it&#8217;s a nuisance instead of a grave threat. Will we release them at that time? Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it depends on whether you think they are being held as potential criminals or because they are enemy combatants captured while they were engaged in actions against us.

It is a serious and I think unresolved distinction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it depends on whether you think they are being held as potential criminals or because they are enemy combatants captured while they were engaged in actions against us.</p>
<p>It is a serious and I think unresolved distinction.</p>
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