Comments on: France’s Riots & the Media – Culpability in Coverage? http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ford4x4 http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3518 ford4x4 Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:48:50 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3518 "What’s really amazing is that there’s been so little loss of life so far. " How true. In America, our rioters could do MUCH better. “What’s really amazing is that there’s been so little loss of life so far. ”

How true. In America, our rioters could do MUCH better.

]]> By: JonBuck http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3514 JonBuck Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:28:56 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3514 The reason why the rioting is getting worse is that the rioters know that they're the ones in control. The anemic response of the French goverment has emboldened them to greater and greater acts of vandalism. What's really amazing is that there's been so little loss of life so far. The reason why the rioting is getting worse is that the rioters know that they’re the ones in control. The anemic response of the French goverment has emboldened them to greater and greater acts of vandalism. What’s really amazing is that there’s been so little loss of life so far.

]]> By: Dave Schuler http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3512 Dave Schuler Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:00:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3512 No. The French government should have established a curfew after the third day. And backed it up. Then there would have been nothing to copy. No. The French government should have established a curfew after the third day. And backed it up. Then there would have been nothing to copy.

]]> By: Noodles http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3511 Noodles Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:53:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3511 " I’m willing to bet that if the french government banned all media coverage of the riots, the kids would quickly lose interest, and the riots would end. " Maybe the U.S. government should ban media coverage on Iraq, at least some of it anyway. Maybe insurgents would lose interest when democrats had no news to bemoan president Bush about. ” I’m willing to bet that if the french government banned all media coverage of the riots, the kids would quickly lose interest, and the riots would end. ”

Maybe the U.S. government should ban media coverage on Iraq, at least some of it anyway. Maybe insurgents would lose interest when democrats had no news to bemoan president Bush about.

]]> By: ford4x4 http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3507 ford4x4 Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:16:32 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3507 Culpable? I doubt it. The youths see what is happening on tv and think it would be fun to do the same. It's grown well beyond Islamic youths, and now is probably mostly hooligans now. That being said, I'm willing to bet that if the french government <b>banned </b> all media coverage of the riots, the kids would quickly lose interest, and the riots would end. Culpable? I doubt it. The youths see what is happening on tv and think it would be fun to do the same. It’s grown well beyond Islamic youths, and now is probably mostly hooligans now.

That being said, I’m willing to bet that if the french government banned all media coverage of the riots, the kids would quickly lose interest, and the riots would end.

]]> By: Ablogistan http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3506 Ablogistan Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:13:40 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3506 <strong>The (avoidable) Clash of Civilizations</strong> A professor in Middle Eastern History once warned against embracing theories like Samuel Huntington's "clash of civilizations". He said the clash of civilizations did not yet exist, but it was a potential self-fulfilling prophecy: By thinking in tho... The (avoidable) Clash of Civilizations

A professor in Middle Eastern History once warned against embracing theories like Samuel Huntington’s “clash of civilizations”. He said the clash of civilizations did not yet exist, but it was a potential self-fulfilling prophecy: By thinking in tho…

]]> By: Cicero http://donklephant.com/2005/11/07/frances-riots-the-media-culpability-in-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-3503 Cicero Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:34:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1280#comment-3503 No, the media isn't culpable, if all they're doing is reporting the fires that are actually there. Should they not report them for fear of copycats? The fire-setters are culpable. The multicultural ghetto system that is in place in France is culpable. People burn the things they do not value. Apparently, whatever France has built over the past few decades isn't valued by many of its immigrants. At least not by the sons and grandsons of immigrants. I must confess that it's very difficult to get a clear view on what's going on in France. The information comes to us as very convoluted. Is it Islamicism on the march? Maybe, maybe not. Arabism? Hooliganism? Is it kids crazed by boredom, reflecting the nihilism of the nanny state that keeps them joylessly dependent? Maybe it's the glee of setting a fire and seeing it on TV the next day, like a kind of tagging. Maybe it's all of these things. I know we here in the US shouldn't feel too above this sort of thing. It's tempting to write the whole thing off as a European phenomenon. It probably isn't. No, the media isn’t culpable, if all they’re doing is reporting the fires that are actually there. Should they not report them for fear of copycats?

The fire-setters are culpable. The multicultural ghetto system that is in place in France is culpable.

People burn the things they do not value. Apparently, whatever France has built over the past few decades isn’t valued by many of its immigrants. At least not by the sons and grandsons of immigrants.

I must confess that it’s very difficult to get a clear view on what’s going on in France. The information comes to us as very convoluted. Is it Islamicism on the march? Maybe, maybe not. Arabism? Hooliganism? Is it kids crazed by boredom, reflecting the nihilism of the nanny state that keeps them joylessly dependent? Maybe it’s the glee of setting a fire and seeing it on TV the next day, like a kind of tagging. Maybe it’s all of these things.

I know we here in the US shouldn’t feel too above this sort of thing. It’s tempting to write the whole thing off as a European phenomenon. It probably isn’t.

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