Comments on: War in Iraq … Gulf War Extension? http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:05:09 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Basa http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-58852 Basa Mon, 07 Aug 2006 08:44:53 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-58852 Good job. Good job.

]]> By: john http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3912 john Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:42:53 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3912 Look, I could kind of see that logic, but then could we apply that to North Korea? If we got back into it with North Korea, would it still be the Korean War continued? I'm thinking most likely not. The caveat there is that we have troops strengths stationed there as if there is a continuation of the cease fire to that war. The same can not be said of the troop strengths left from the invasion points in the gulf. We did have some troops, but not sufficient enough to consider a deterent. I just don't want to confuse this action with the other. Outside of that a War resolution was voted on and passed making this a different action entirely. Let's not muddy the waters any more than they already are. Look, I could kind of see that logic, but then could we apply that to North Korea? If we got back into it with North Korea, would it still be the Korean War continued? I’m thinking most likely not. The caveat there is that we have troops strengths stationed there as if there is a continuation of the cease fire to that war. The same can not be said of the troop strengths left from the invasion points in the gulf. We did have some troops, but not sufficient enough to consider a deterent. I just don’t want to confuse this action with the other. Outside of that a War resolution was voted on and passed making this a different action entirely. Let’s not muddy the waters any more than they already are.

]]> By: Steve K http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3909 Steve K Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:35:14 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3909 "the object was met" - in a way, but the war didn't end, it just slowed down. There was a ceasefire, not a peace treaty, a ceasefire that Iraq started to violate very soon. At the latest, the attempt to assassinate Bush Senior in 1993 drove a cart and horses through the ceasefire. The Allies could have invaded Iraq at any time thereafter on the basis that the ceasefire no longer held. As Tierney says, it's all the same war. “the object was met” – in a way, but the war didn’t end, it just slowed down. There was a ceasefire, not a peace treaty, a ceasefire that Iraq started to violate very soon. At the latest, the attempt to assassinate Bush Senior in 1993 drove a cart and horses through the ceasefire. The Allies could have invaded Iraq at any time thereafter on the basis that the ceasefire no longer held. As Tierney says, it’s all the same war.

]]> By: john http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3900 john Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:26:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3900 The First gulf war had a clear objective and popular support, and the object was met. Should we have kept going? I agree with you Denise, we should have. This war however did not have a clear objective and it did not have popular support, Support, but not a majority of support. There was a lot of confusion about the War in general by the population; confusion that was created in part by this administration. Agreed cut and run is not the best option, but its better than the "Stay the Course" option, when the course is off track. Bush needs to Grow some Balls, tell America that mistakes were made, and that we need to do what needs to be done and flood Iraq with American Troops, Kill out the insurgency or at least knock it down, and get the Iraq security in check. This is so we don't leave Iraq with a weakened Security force, and a strong Insurgency. However, Bush is going to go Wishy Washy on this, half ass it for a while longer, then split. Most likely flying in on a big jet through a huge banner Screaming "Mission Complete - Again". Oh with a huge cock piece expressing his manhood. The First gulf war had a clear objective and popular support, and the object was met. Should we have kept going? I agree with you Denise, we should have. This war however did not have a clear objective and it did not have popular support, Support, but not a majority of support. There was a lot of confusion about the War in general by the population; confusion that was created in part by this administration. Agreed cut and run is not the best option, but its better than the “Stay the Course” option, when the course is off track. Bush needs to Grow some Balls, tell America that mistakes were made, and that we need to do what needs to be done and flood Iraq with American Troops, Kill out the insurgency or at least knock it down, and get the Iraq security in check. This is so we don’t leave Iraq with a weakened Security force, and a strong Insurgency. However, Bush is going to go Wishy Washy on this, half ass it for a while longer, then split. Most likely flying in on a big jet through a huge banner Screaming “Mission Complete – Again”. Oh with a huge cock piece expressing his manhood.

]]> By: Denise Best http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3883 Denise Best Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:24:18 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3883 So much emphasis has been placed upon the WMDs existence issue that a more fundamental point is being overlooked. The objectives of the Gulf War were not fully met, so we continue to grapple with the situation in Iraq and now the pressure to cut and run. Are we going to make the same mistake in Iraq that has appeared to have been made in the Gulf War? So much emphasis has been placed upon the WMDs existence issue that a more fundamental point is being overlooked. The objectives of the Gulf War were not fully met, so we continue to grapple with the situation in Iraq and now the pressure to cut and run.

Are we going to make the same mistake in Iraq that has appeared to have been made in the Gulf War?

]]> By: A Blog For All http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3882 A Blog For All Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:02:25 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3882 <strong>Going Wobbly?</strong> So, we now come back to the present and calls from the Left to abandon ship, tuck tail and run, and to give up on the endeavor in Iraq and the Middle East. Hogwash... Going Wobbly?

So, we now come back to the present and calls from the Left to abandon ship, tuck tail and run, and to give up on the endeavor in Iraq and the Middle East. Hogwash…

]]> By: Noodles http://donklephant.com/2005/11/17/war-in-iraq-gulf-war-extension/comment-page-1/#comment-3874 Noodles Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:29:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=1370#comment-3874 "Should the examination extend back to the “Firstâ€Â? Gulf War, and it’s unfinished business, instead of concentrating exclusively upon the WMD issue? " Its amazing to me that this question is even asked, just like its amazing how Democrats keep harping on the "bush lied to me so i would vote to go to war" meme. Every right-wing pundit and libertarian blogger was advocationg the position stated by this unscom guy during the 2004 election, but no one in the MSM wanted to consider this because it might upset Kerry's chances of election. The congress voted on 20 reasons to go to war, other than the existance of WMD (including enforcing UN resolutions, ending the kurdish holacaust, support for terrorists ect...) http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html “Should the examination extend back to the “Firstâ€Â? Gulf War, and it’s unfinished business, instead of concentrating exclusively upon the WMD issue? ”

Its amazing to me that this question is even asked, just like its amazing how Democrats keep harping on the “bush lied to me so i would vote to go to war” meme. Every right-wing pundit and libertarian blogger was advocationg the position stated by this unscom guy during the 2004 election, but no one in the MSM wanted to consider this because it might upset Kerry’s chances of election.

The congress voted on 20 reasons to go to war, other than the existance of WMD (including enforcing UN resolutions, ending the kurdish holacaust, support for terrorists ect…)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

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