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	<title>Comments on: Al-Zarqawi - Worth More Dead Than Alive?</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/11/21/al-zarqawi-worth-more-dead-than-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said. Count on a moonbat to treat every whim or fancy as a deadly serious deliberate paranoid reality plotted by Shrubbie McChimplerburton the Death Merchant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said. Count on a moonbat to treat every whim or fancy as a deadly serious deliberate paranoid reality plotted by Shrubbie McChimplerburton the Death Merchant.</p>
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		<title>By: Socks Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socks Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cal, 

Interesting that you say that Bush would have to invent Zarqawi if he didn't exist.  Democracy Now! had a guest on that essentially suggested that this occurred.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/10/1527205&#38;mode=thread&#38;tid=25

Her argument is that Zarqawi was small potatoes with no connections to al-Qaeda or Hussein, until Powell mentioned him in his infamous speech to the UN:

"LORETTA NAPOLEONI: Yes. Well, I think he's correct. None of this information were actually true, in particular, the connection represented by Al Zarqawi between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Now, of course, the myth of this individual was created that day, because that day the entire world was presented with this new boogieman, with this new evil man. And that is true not only in the West, but also in the Muslim world. All of a sudden money start flowing to him, and also people start joining his insurgency in Iraq. So, in other words, we created this monster who now we can't control."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal, </p>
<p>Interesting that you say that Bush would have to invent Zarqawi if he didn&#8217;t exist.  Democracy Now! had a guest on that essentially suggested that this occurred.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/10/1527205&amp;mode=thread&amp;tid=25" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/10/1527205&amp;mode=thread&amp;tid=25</a></p>
<p>Her argument is that Zarqawi was small potatoes with no connections to al-Qaeda or Hussein, until Powell mentioned him in his infamous speech to the UN:</p>
<p>&#8220;LORETTA NAPOLEONI: Yes. Well, I think he&#8217;s correct. None of this information were actually true, in particular, the connection represented by Al Zarqawi between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Now, of course, the myth of this individual was created that day, because that day the entire world was presented with this new boogieman, with this new evil man. And that is true not only in the West, but also in the Muslim world. All of a sudden money start flowing to him, and also people start joining his insurgency in Iraq. So, in other words, we created this monster who now we can&#8217;t control.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A Christian Prophet</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/11/21/al-zarqawi-worth-more-dead-than-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-3995</link>
		<dc:creator>A Christian Prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian Prophet blog early this morning seemed to confirm Zarqawi's death.  When government intelligence catches up, American public opinion should increase about 15% toward the Iraq Rebuilding. This should shove Bush's approval up about 10%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Prophet blog early this morning seemed to confirm Zarqawi&#8217;s death.  When government intelligence catches up, American public opinion should increase about 15% toward the Iraq Rebuilding. This should shove Bush&#8217;s approval up about 10%.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/11/21/al-zarqawi-worth-more-dead-than-alive/comment-page-1/#comment-3990</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My purely cynical reaction to the rumor of al-Zarqawi's death yesterday was, "oh, no, not now." He's become quite an asset for the Americans in the Middle East. The more he kills fellow Muslims, car-bombs mosques, and blows up wedding receptions in Jordan, the more people in that part of the world realize the Americans aren't the worst thing that can happen to them. He's a royal screw-up, from a PR point of view, and even Osama's henchmen have to write him scolding letters about it. I'm almost cynical enough to say, if al-Zarqawi didn't exist, Bush would have to invent him. But I'll leave that to Michael Moore to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My purely cynical reaction to the rumor of al-Zarqawi&#8217;s death yesterday was, &#8220;oh, no, not now.&#8221; He&#8217;s become quite an asset for the Americans in the Middle East. The more he kills fellow Muslims, car-bombs mosques, and blows up wedding receptions in Jordan, the more people in that part of the world realize the Americans aren&#8217;t the worst thing that can happen to them. He&#8217;s a royal screw-up, from a PR point of view, and even Osama&#8217;s henchmen have to write him scolding letters about it. I&#8217;m almost cynical enough to say, if al-Zarqawi didn&#8217;t exist, Bush would have to invent him. But I&#8217;ll leave that to Michael Moore to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Captured and disavowed by his family, al-Zarqawi would prove to be less dangerous than if he were to be killed in a battle with the American Infidels and inevitably elevated to martyr status.&lt;/i&gt;

Is martyrdom overrated? I recall a conversation on CNN a few weeks after 9/11/2001 where it was pointed out that martyrs were basically a dime a dozen in the Middle East. Also, if the purpose of martyrdom is motivation for those still alive to fight for the cause, it seems to me that the law of diminishing returns applies to martyrdom, because there comes a point where even the most zealous fanatic is as motivated as he's ever going to be, regardless of how many more of his comrades have martyred themselves for the same cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Captured and disavowed by his family, al-Zarqawi would prove to be less dangerous than if he were to be killed in a battle with the American Infidels and inevitably elevated to martyr status.</i></p>
<p>Is martyrdom overrated? I recall a conversation on CNN a few weeks after 9/11/2001 where it was pointed out that martyrs were basically a dime a dozen in the Middle East. Also, if the purpose of martyrdom is motivation for those still alive to fight for the cause, it seems to me that the law of diminishing returns applies to martyrdom, because there comes a point where even the most zealous fanatic is as motivated as he&#8217;s ever going to be, regardless of how many more of his comrades have martyred themselves for the same cause.</p>
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