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	<title>Comments on: Henry Kissinger Talks Iraq Exit</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/13/henry-kissinger-talks-iraq-exit/comment-page-1/#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s part of what is so unfortunate about the current Democratic rhetoric - it seems entirely tactical and based on a reflexive hatred of President Bush.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, maybe Dean&#039;s rhetoric, but Murtha&#039;s? That I can&#039;t agree with. He didn&#039;t really seem to be condemning the President. He seemed genuinely concerned given the info he was recieving from top military officials.

However, I still think staying the course and getting much smarter about winning the peace is needed. Whether this President is up to that task is a different story altogether, but I certainly hope  he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s part of what is so unfortunate about the current Democratic rhetoric &#8211; it seems entirely tactical and based on a reflexive hatred of President Bush.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, maybe Dean&#8217;s rhetoric, but Murtha&#8217;s? That I can&#8217;t agree with. He didn&#8217;t really seem to be condemning the President. He seemed genuinely concerned given the info he was recieving from top military officials.</p>
<p>However, I still think staying the course and getting much smarter about winning the peace is needed. Whether this President is up to that task is a different story altogether, but I certainly hope  he is.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s part of what is so unfortunate about the current Democratic rhetoric - it seems entirely tactical and based on a reflexive hatred of President Bush.  I&#039;m not hearing the kind of strategic &quot;what&#039;s best for the US long term&quot; kind of thinking from the Democrats, and it&#039;s dissapointing.  Wilson, FDR, Marshall... those were Democrats with some vision...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s part of what is so unfortunate about the current Democratic rhetoric &#8211; it seems entirely tactical and based on a reflexive hatred of President Bush.  I&#8217;m not hearing the kind of strategic &#8220;what&#8217;s best for the US long term&#8221; kind of thinking from the Democrats, and it&#8217;s dissapointing.  Wilson, FDR, Marshall&#8230; those were Democrats with some vision&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/13/henry-kissinger-talks-iraq-exit/comment-page-1/#comment-4533</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Though often put into technical terms, the issue is not the mechanics of withdrawal. Rather the debate should be over consequences ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ whether, in the end, withdrawal will be perceived as a forced retreat or as an aspect of a prudent and carefully planned move on behalf of international security.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder if the former perception (i.e. a forced retreat) is part of the thinking of Howard Dean et al - that is, whether their latest round of cut-and-run agitation isn&#039;t so much an attempt to force a premature withdrawal from Iraq (which is probably futile at this point) as an attempt to &quot;pre-spin&quot; the eventual withdrawal, whenever it comes and regardless of the circumstances, as a retreat from what the Bush administration is supposedly only just then recognizing as a lost cause, but which Dean et al recognized as such way back in December 2005 (if not sooner).

I think we can also count on whatever remains of the insurgency in Iraq to join in on the spin-doctoring effort once the U.S. withdrawal actually begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Though often put into technical terms, the issue is not the mechanics of withdrawal. Rather the debate should be over consequences ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ whether, in the end, withdrawal will be perceived as a forced retreat or as an aspect of a prudent and carefully planned move on behalf of international security.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if the former perception (i.e. a forced retreat) is part of the thinking of Howard Dean et al &#8211; that is, whether their latest round of cut-and-run agitation isn&#8217;t so much an attempt to force a premature withdrawal from Iraq (which is probably futile at this point) as an attempt to &#8220;pre-spin&#8221; the eventual withdrawal, whenever it comes and regardless of the circumstances, as a retreat from what the Bush administration is supposedly only just then recognizing as a lost cause, but which Dean et al recognized as such way back in December 2005 (if not sooner).</p>
<p>I think we can also count on whatever remains of the insurgency in Iraq to join in on the spin-doctoring effort once the U.S. withdrawal actually begins.</p>
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