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	<title>Comments on: On Fear</title>
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		<title>By: BrianOfAtlanta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/26/on-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-4820</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianOfAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Steinback suffers from selective memory, at least as far as suggesting that our human rights record during WWII was better than it is now. In WWII, those non-uniformed &quot;enemy combatants&quot; in Guantanemo would have been summarily shot as spies. Today we spy on those suspected of communicating with the enemy. In WWII, we had &quot;internment camps&quot; for those of suspect allegiance. 

As for Osama winning, Freedom House reports that in 2005, 8 countries plus the Palestinian Authority moved up in the freedom index, either from &quot;not free&quot; to &quot;partly free&quot;, or from &quot;partly free&quot; to &quot;free&quot;, while 4 moved down. Six of those 9 countries (counting the PA as a country) moving up were Muslim. None of the 4 moving down were Muslim. Seems like whether Osama has &quot;won&quot; in the US or not, he&#039;s losing on the world stage pretty badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Steinback suffers from selective memory, at least as far as suggesting that our human rights record during WWII was better than it is now. In WWII, those non-uniformed &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221; in Guantanemo would have been summarily shot as spies. Today we spy on those suspected of communicating with the enemy. In WWII, we had &#8220;internment camps&#8221; for those of suspect allegiance. </p>
<p>As for Osama winning, Freedom House reports that in 2005, 8 countries plus the Palestinian Authority moved up in the freedom index, either from &#8220;not free&#8221; to &#8220;partly free&#8221;, or from &#8220;partly free&#8221; to &#8220;free&#8221;, while 4 moved down. Six of those 9 countries (counting the PA as a country) moving up were Muslim. None of the 4 moving down were Muslim. Seems like whether Osama has &#8220;won&#8221; in the US or not, he&#8217;s losing on the world stage pretty badly.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/26/on-fear/comment-page-1/#comment-4799</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin wrote:&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, I hesitate to link to this piece because it calls Bush a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œkingÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? and so forth, but read it and ponder what it means to live in America post 9/11.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The author of that piece doesn&#039;t know the half of it. Then again, neither, it seems, do most of the MSM&#039;s pundits and America&#039;s politicians. Like them, he seems to be fixated solely on counter-terrorism efforts, which are just the tip of the Long War iceberg.

This war is basically a war of ideas, specifically between competing societal models. This begs two questions: (1) Can the American model of secular liberal democracy prevail over the Islamist model of institutionalized &lt;i&gt;shari&#039;a&lt;/i&gt; in the hearts and minds of the world&#039;s Muslims (including those living in the U.S.), and (2) How far ought our government go to promote our model and/or demonize the other one? (To the point of silencing ostensibly non-violent but pro-&lt;i&gt;shari&#039;a&lt;/i&gt; Islamists, for example?) Neither question has an obvious answer, nor does either one relate directly to terrorism, but freedom-loving people like us ignore them at our own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin wrote:<br />
<blockquote>Now, I hesitate to link to this piece because it calls Bush a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œkingÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? and so forth, but read it and ponder what it means to live in America post 9/11.</p></blockquote>
<p>The author of that piece doesn&#8217;t know the half of it. Then again, neither, it seems, do most of the MSM&#8217;s pundits and America&#8217;s politicians. Like them, he seems to be fixated solely on counter-terrorism efforts, which are just the tip of the Long War iceberg.</p>
<p>This war is basically a war of ideas, specifically between competing societal models. This begs two questions: (1) Can the American model of secular liberal democracy prevail over the Islamist model of institutionalized <i>shari&#8217;a</i> in the hearts and minds of the world&#8217;s Muslims (including those living in the U.S.), and (2) How far ought our government go to promote our model and/or demonize the other one? (To the point of silencing ostensibly non-violent but pro-<i>shari&#8217;a</i> Islamists, for example?) Neither question has an obvious answer, nor does either one relate directly to terrorism, but freedom-loving people like us ignore them at our own peril.</p>
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