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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4951</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but by the way, most of your links don&#039;t work. Might want to go back and fix them if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but by the way, most of your links don&#8217;t work. Might want to go back and fix them if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4950</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Cal. Just got around to approving that comment since it had so many links in it. Our spam catcher...well...catches those sorts of comments.

And to that, point well taken. Yes, shame on them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Cal. Just got around to approving that comment since it had so many links in it. Our spam catcher&#8230;well&#8230;catches those sorts of comments.</p>
<p>And to that, point well taken. Yes, shame on them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4944</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So this is Christmas...and what have we learned...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So this is Christmas&#8230;and what have we learned&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4919</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree with you more.  To call it a &#039;war&#039; is a total farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree with you more.  To call it a &#8216;war&#8217; is a total farce.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4897</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on them, too, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on them, too, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, but ... you&#039;re robbing the BDS crowd of its most potent image:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050509/alterman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War on the Press&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
by Eric Alterman in the Nation

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0309.wallace-wells.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War On Cops&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
in Washington Monthly

&lt;a href=&quot;www.plannedparenthood.org/ library/facts/030114_waronwomen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s &quot;War on Women&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
from Planned Parenthood

&lt;a href=&quot;www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/01/06/nature/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;George Bush&#039;s war on nature&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
in Salon

&lt;a href=&quot;www.sitnews.us/HowardDean/062904_dean.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War on Science&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
courtesy of Howard Dean

&lt;a href=&quot;www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/001712.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War on Our Civil Liberties&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
at Pacific Views

&lt;a href=&quot;www.rawstory.com/exclusives/ avery/bush_war_on_information_terror_914.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s war on information&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
courtesy of &quot;a liberal alternative to the Drudge report.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;www.alternet.org/story/11134/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War on Children&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
courtesy of Alternet

&lt;a href=&quot;www.democraticunderground.com/ articles/05/11/09_veterans.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s War on Veterans&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
in Democratic Underground

and last but not least,

&lt;a href=&quot;www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002598.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bush&#039;s war on America&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, but &#8230; you&#8217;re robbing the BDS crowd of its most potent image:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050509/alterman" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War on the Press</b></a><br />
by Eric Alterman in the Nation</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0309.wallace-wells.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War On Cops</b></a><br />
in Washington Monthly</p>
<p><a href="www.plannedparenthood.org/ library/facts/030114_waronwomen.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s &#8220;War on Women&#8221;</b></a><br />
from Planned Parenthood</p>
<p><a href="www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/01/06/nature/" rel="nofollow"><b>George Bush&#8217;s war on nature</b></a><br />
in Salon</p>
<p><a href="www.sitnews.us/HowardDean/062904_dean.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War on Science</b></a><br />
courtesy of Howard Dean</p>
<p><a href="www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/001712.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War on Our Civil Liberties</b></a><br />
at Pacific Views</p>
<p><a href="www.rawstory.com/exclusives/ avery/bush_war_on_information_terror_914.htm" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s war on information</b></a><br />
courtesy of &#8220;a liberal alternative to the Drudge report.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="www.alternet.org/story/11134/" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War on Children</b></a><br />
courtesy of Alternet</p>
<p><a href="www.democraticunderground.com/ articles/05/11/09_veterans.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s War on Veterans</b></a><br />
in Democratic Underground</p>
<p>and last but not least,</p>
<p><a href="www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002598.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Bush&#8217;s war on America</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Milo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4895</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To do so is to completely demean what war really is, and is insulting to our men and women abroad who are fighting and dying in our countryÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s service.&quot;

Justin, agreed.  There may be a better word for it, but there does seem to be an increasingly vocal anti-Christian element in this country.  In a culture where you can slowly loose your identity through one small concession after another, I&#039;m glad people are bringing attention to it.

Recall the issue with Target, etc. and a bit of activism bringing the word Christmas back into their advertising.  Is it a world victory, heck no, but it is something.  It seems to be an unfortunate state of affairs in with our media that you&#039;ve got to be over the top to get noticed.

On your point - to wit, are you just as angry over &quot;The War of the Sexes&quot;?

Thanks for the site, its really great!

Andrew Milo
blog.miloco.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To do so is to completely demean what war really is, and is insulting to our men and women abroad who are fighting and dying in our countryÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s service.&#8221;</p>
<p>Justin, agreed.  There may be a better word for it, but there does seem to be an increasingly vocal anti-Christian element in this country.  In a culture where you can slowly loose your identity through one small concession after another, I&#8217;m glad people are bringing attention to it.</p>
<p>Recall the issue with Target, etc. and a bit of activism bringing the word Christmas back into their advertising.  Is it a world victory, heck no, but it is something.  It seems to be an unfortunate state of affairs in with our media that you&#8217;ve got to be over the top to get noticed.</p>
<p>On your point &#8211; to wit, are you just as angry over &#8220;The War of the Sexes&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks for the site, its really great!</p>
<p>Andrew Milo<br />
blog.miloco.com</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, &lt;a href=&quot;http://moderatemusings.blogspot.com/2005/12/in-depth-war-on-christmas.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I couldn&#039;t agree more.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, <a href="http://moderatemusings.blogspot.com/2005/12/in-depth-war-on-christmas.html" rel="nofollow">I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2005/12/30/the-war-on-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4890</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By and large, I don&#039;t mind Fox&#039;s actual news coverage. It&#039;s their talk shows, especially Gibson&#039;s and Bill O&#039;Reilly&#039;s, that grate on my nerves (and, not to mention, are actually stridently right-wing). I guess it&#039;s a good thing I didn&#039;t catch this particular debate - it just sounds like a few minutes out of my life that I wouldn&#039;t get back.

That said, it may be just me, and the fact that the &quot;war&quot; metaphor has already been invoked in any number of other contexts (&quot;the culture wars,&quot; &quot;the War on Drugs,&quot; the all-too-frequent war analogies invoked in sports - heck, football alone is replete with war terminology), but I guess I just can&#039;t get as worked up about calling it a &quot;War on Christmas&quot; as you do. Been there, done that.

Besides, even the actual wars in which our soldiers fight and die have plenty of non-military components to them. (This is especially true of the Long War we&#039;re in now.) Persuasion by means other than the barrel of a gun - which is what the &quot;War on Christmas&quot; amounts to on both sides - is one of the biggest ones.

Perhaps the real question here is the larger one: &lt;i&gt;Should we call something a war if there&#039;s no actual, physical fighting involved?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By and large, I don&#8217;t mind Fox&#8217;s actual news coverage. It&#8217;s their talk shows, especially Gibson&#8217;s and Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s, that grate on my nerves (and, not to mention, are actually stridently right-wing). I guess it&#8217;s a good thing I didn&#8217;t catch this particular debate &#8211; it just sounds like a few minutes out of my life that I wouldn&#8217;t get back.</p>
<p>That said, it may be just me, and the fact that the &#8220;war&#8221; metaphor has already been invoked in any number of other contexts (&#8221;the culture wars,&#8221; &#8220;the War on Drugs,&#8221; the all-too-frequent war analogies invoked in sports &#8211; heck, football alone is replete with war terminology), but I guess I just can&#8217;t get as worked up about calling it a &#8220;War on Christmas&#8221; as you do. Been there, done that.</p>
<p>Besides, even the actual wars in which our soldiers fight and die have plenty of non-military components to them. (This is especially true of the Long War we&#8217;re in now.) Persuasion by means other than the barrel of a gun &#8211; which is what the &#8220;War on Christmas&#8221; amounts to on both sides &#8211; is one of the biggest ones.</p>
<p>Perhaps the real question here is the larger one: <i>Should we call something a war if there&#8217;s no actual, physical fighting involved?</i></p>
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