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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Hose pantie</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/03/the-year-of-the-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-116409</link>
		<dc:creator>Hose pantie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good, have you enough time to do this great blog??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good, have you enough time to do this great blog??</p>
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		<title>By: Home theater</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/03/the-year-of-the-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-67103</link>
		<dc:creator>Home theater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 22:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, I now have a much better understanding. Have a great day, Thanks again! Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, I now have a much better understanding. Have a great day, Thanks again! Sue</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Apartment Rentals</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Apartment Rentals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check</description>
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		<title>By: ford4x4</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/03/the-year-of-the-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-4996</link>
		<dc:creator>ford4x4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Until and unless the election system is reformed to remove the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œgood old boys onlyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? clauses weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re probably mostly stuck with the donkey and the elephant. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And, unfortunately,  those same good ol boys are making the rules that continue to make it harder for independants.</description>
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Until and unless the election system is reformed to remove the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œgood old boys onlyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? clauses weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re probably mostly stuck with the donkey and the elephant. </p></blockquote>
<p>And, unfortunately,  those same good ol boys are making the rules that continue to make it harder for independants.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highlighted this story too but added what I believe will be some &lt;a href=&quot;http://moderatemusings.blogspot.com/2006/01/spotlight-strayhorn-to-run-as.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;implications on the election scene&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highlighted this story too but added what I believe will be some <a href="http://moderatemusings.blogspot.com/2006/01/spotlight-strayhorn-to-run-as.html" rel="nofollow">implications on the election scene</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with DosPeros - but in addition to fundraising obstacles, the two party system has put up quite a few other barriers to Independents even getting on the ballot, much less elected.

As the Texas article I read mentioned, the main reason why there are more independents running is because the Republican is running unopposed - the petition to get on the ballot has to contain 46,000 signatures *from people who did not vote in any primary*  

That means in any race where there are 2 or more significant candidates in each party, the pool of potential petitioners for any independent is much smaller.

I&#039;m sure similar or worse situations exist in many other states and municipalities, and also if I recall the presidential race also has a pretty high barrier for independents and third party canadidates.

Until and unless the election system is reformed to remove the &quot;good old boys only&quot; clauses we&#039;re probably mostly stuck with the donkey and the elephant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with DosPeros &#8211; but in addition to fundraising obstacles, the two party system has put up quite a few other barriers to Independents even getting on the ballot, much less elected.</p>
<p>As the Texas article I read mentioned, the main reason why there are more independents running is because the Republican is running unopposed &#8211; the petition to get on the ballot has to contain 46,000 signatures *from people who did not vote in any primary*  </p>
<p>That means in any race where there are 2 or more significant candidates in each party, the pool of potential petitioners for any independent is much smaller.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure similar or worse situations exist in many other states and municipalities, and also if I recall the presidential race also has a pretty high barrier for independents and third party canadidates.</p>
<p>Until and unless the election system is reformed to remove the &#8220;good old boys only&#8221; clauses we&#8217;re probably mostly stuck with the donkey and the elephant.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll see more and more politicians running as independents trying to garner centrist votes. I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t know if itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll work, but I welcome the effort to try and establish some type of third way in the process.&quot;

The problem here is money and organization network -- unless the Independent candidate is independently wealthy and willing to finance their own campaign -- an average Independent candidate is going to be unsuccessful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll see more and more politicians running as independents trying to garner centrist votes. I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t know if itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll work, but I welcome the effort to try and establish some type of third way in the process.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem here is money and organization network &#8212; unless the Independent candidate is independently wealthy and willing to finance their own campaign &#8212; an average Independent candidate is going to be unsuccessful.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
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		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NZ has been through this process in a number of different ways over the years.

Back in the late &#039;50s,  the Hobson electorate (the very northernmost bit)  elected one Vernon Cracknell who became a very &quot;profitable&quot; member for the region.  In his six years in office (two terms) there was more roading and other government works carried out in the region than in the previous thirty years.  Vern was actually elected on a Social Credit ticket,  but was the only representative of a third party elected since the 1930&#039;s.

With the introduction of MMP (as disctinct from FPP) we now have some 6 &quot;minor&quot; parties in the House,  four of which are represented as part of the government itself - allied in various ways to Auntie Helen&#039;s mob.

Is the Vern example a good thing?  Yes and no.  Would a government of &quot;independants&quot; last?  They would go before lunch - if only because individual electoral demands (euphemism for &quot;I want to have power and continuance&quot;) would get in the way of cooperation and progress...

Is the MMP example the way to go?  It is certainly better than FPP.  It would be an impossibility for the US for as long as you have your present Presidential system.  If the President were elected from within the House and Senate structure then MMP might be a goer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ has been through this process in a number of different ways over the years.</p>
<p>Back in the late &#8217;50s,  the Hobson electorate (the very northernmost bit)  elected one Vernon Cracknell who became a very &#8220;profitable&#8221; member for the region.  In his six years in office (two terms) there was more roading and other government works carried out in the region than in the previous thirty years.  Vern was actually elected on a Social Credit ticket,  but was the only representative of a third party elected since the 1930&#8217;s.</p>
<p>With the introduction of MMP (as disctinct from FPP) we now have some 6 &#8220;minor&#8221; parties in the House,  four of which are represented as part of the government itself &#8211; allied in various ways to Auntie Helen&#8217;s mob.</p>
<p>Is the Vern example a good thing?  Yes and no.  Would a government of &#8220;independants&#8221; last?  They would go before lunch &#8211; if only because individual electoral demands (euphemism for &#8220;I want to have power and continuance&#8221;) would get in the way of cooperation and progress&#8230;</p>
<p>Is the MMP example the way to go?  It is certainly better than FPP.  It would be an impossibility for the US for as long as you have your present Presidential system.  If the President were elected from within the House and Senate structure then MMP might be a goer.</p>
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