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		<title>By: Buy Iodipamide</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-384892</link>
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		<title>By: Russ/Boxing Alcibiades</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5739</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ/Boxing Alcibiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I excited about Condi?

Let's see.  She's a 2nd-amendment absolutist (unlike McCain, who tried to gut the 1st amendment with Feingold), who's sharp as a tack, and has that most overwhelming job qualification -- like Sulla, she don't want the job.</description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s see.  She&#8217;s a 2nd-amendment absolutist (unlike McCain, who tried to gut the 1st amendment with Feingold), who&#8217;s sharp as a tack, and has that most overwhelming job qualification &#8212; like Sulla, she don&#8217;t want the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5703</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean, I have wanted to rid my party of the public perception that we are a bunch of David Duke, sexist good olÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ boys that the media has protrayed us to be by cooperating with lib propaganda machine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Puhhhlease...Repubs certainly aren't David Duke, sexist good ol' boys, but they also are certainly not an inclusive party. And I'd be curious to find out how many black women voted for George Bush in 2000 and 2004.

And please, while you're here back off the whole "media as a tool of the left-wing" meme. It's demonstrated time and time again that we see bias simply from the perspective we're at. Right-wingers see left wing bias and left-wingers see right wing bias. In short, it's not a good reason for why Condi should be President or VP.

But to all of the rest, thanks for your comments. This gives me more on an idea of why you like here, and I appreciate the links. Frankly, I don't know if she's a good Secretary of State or not, because a) it's too soon to tell (only a year), and b) she's in a particularly ideological White House which may prevent her from doing some things she wants to do. 

Although I will say that I like her new ideas about putting diplomats in more countries to spread the word about Democracy. Thumbs up on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean, I have wanted to rid my party of the public perception that we are a bunch of David Duke, sexist good olÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ boys that the media has protrayed us to be by cooperating with lib propaganda machine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Puhhhlease&#8230;Repubs certainly aren&#8217;t David Duke, sexist good ol&#8217; boys, but they also are certainly not an inclusive party. And I&#8217;d be curious to find out how many black women voted for George Bush in 2000 and 2004.</p>
<p>And please, while you&#8217;re here back off the whole &#8220;media as a tool of the left-wing&#8221; meme. It&#8217;s demonstrated time and time again that we see bias simply from the perspective we&#8217;re at. Right-wingers see left wing bias and left-wingers see right wing bias. In short, it&#8217;s not a good reason for why Condi should be President or VP.</p>
<p>But to all of the rest, thanks for your comments. This gives me more on an idea of why you like here, and I appreciate the links. Frankly, I don&#8217;t know if she&#8217;s a good Secretary of State or not, because a) it&#8217;s too soon to tell (only a year), and b) she&#8217;s in a particularly ideological White House which may prevent her from doing some things she wants to do. </p>
<p>Although I will say that I like her new ideas about putting diplomats in more countries to spread the word about Democracy. Thumbs up on that.</p>
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		<title>By: whootziedude</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5698</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm more of an Elekey than a donklephant and I have to admit, I've been more interested in who the Dems put out there than I have considered the Rep rep.  Therefore, I can't speak on the character, leadership, charisma, etc. of Rice and have been pleasantly educated by what I've just read from you bloggers.  However, as an Elekey, I am intigued by the idea because of the demographic points that some of you have said is poor reasoning.  I mean, I have wanted to rid my party of the public perception that we are a bunch of David Duke, sexist good ol' boys that the media has protrayed us to be by cooperating with lib propaganda machine.  If she surrounded herself with the right people in the White House, I at least couldn't see her doing any worse than Dubyah.  I just wish it were more plausible that it would actually happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more of an Elekey than a donklephant and I have to admit, I&#8217;ve been more interested in who the Dems put out there than I have considered the Rep rep.  Therefore, I can&#8217;t speak on the character, leadership, charisma, etc. of Rice and have been pleasantly educated by what I&#8217;ve just read from you bloggers.  However, as an Elekey, I am intigued by the idea because of the demographic points that some of you have said is poor reasoning.  I mean, I have wanted to rid my party of the public perception that we are a bunch of David Duke, sexist good ol&#8217; boys that the media has protrayed us to be by cooperating with lib propaganda machine.  If she surrounded herself with the right people in the White House, I at least couldn&#8217;t see her doing any worse than Dubyah.  I just wish it were more plausible that it would actually happen!</p>
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		<title>By: lgude</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5686</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jeff above covers Rice's qualities well. My sense is that '08 is not Rice's time. Maybe a VP run, but not for president yet. And maybe she means it when she says she isn't interested. That's a possibilty too. That said,  I have no negative feelings about her running from what I know so far. She has seemed like a decent and capiable person all along to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jeff above covers Rice&#8217;s qualities well. My sense is that &#8216;08 is not Rice&#8217;s time. Maybe a VP run, but not for president yet. And maybe she means it when she says she isn&#8217;t interested. That&#8217;s a possibilty too. That said,  I have no negative feelings about her running from what I know so far. She has seemed like a decent and capiable person all along to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rice said that she wouldn't run for VP also.  She made that clear within the last few weeks after Laura Bush said that she thought tha Rice would make a great President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rice said that she wouldn&#8217;t run for VP also.  She made that clear within the last few weeks after Laura Bush said that she thought tha Rice would make a great President.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianOfAtlanta</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Rice would make a stellar VP.</description>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn't really thought of the Rice-vp ticket, but that would be a stroke of genius by the Republicans.</description>
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		<title>By: Confederate Yankee</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5659</link>
		<dc:creator>Confederate Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a conservative, I like (overall) what Rice has done in the positions she's had and feel that she is a person of character, but I simply don't know enough about her personal views to get a "warm fuzzy" about her as President at this time, even if she runs (which she has said she will not, repeatedly). Still, she is my #2 pick, as I don't have much faith in the other Republican names that keep popping up in '08 circles, with the possible exception of Allen.

I'd rather go with Ken Blackwell of Ohio as the '08 nominee, from what I've heard of him so far. A small government Reaganite conservative (remember those?) that works well with both parties in his home state, he is untainted by Washington.

Put him in the driver's seat, and have Rice on board for her foreign policy experience as Veep, if she wants to be on the ticket. I think a Blackwell/Rice ticket would be good for this country, and don't think that whoever the DNC would put up against them really even matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a conservative, I like (overall) what Rice has done in the positions she&#8217;s had and feel that she is a person of character, but I simply don&#8217;t know enough about her personal views to get a &#8220;warm fuzzy&#8221; about her as President at this time, even if she runs (which she has said she will not, repeatedly). Still, she is my #2 pick, as I don&#8217;t have much faith in the other Republican names that keep popping up in &#8216;08 circles, with the possible exception of Allen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather go with Ken Blackwell of Ohio as the &#8216;08 nominee, from what I&#8217;ve heard of him so far. A small government Reaganite conservative (remember those?) that works well with both parties in his home state, he is untainted by Washington.</p>
<p>Put him in the driver&#8217;s seat, and have Rice on board for her foreign policy experience as Veep, if she wants to be on the ticket. I think a Blackwell/Rice ticket would be good for this country, and don&#8217;t think that whoever the DNC would put up against them really even matters.</p>
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		<title>By: ford4x4</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realistically,  it just comes down to who runs for Pres in '08.

We know that the majority of American voters are uninformed,  and they vote republican because they're Daddy always did, or they vote Democrat because their union leaders tell them they have to.   There are many people, now,  who feel that America is ready for a woman president.  Qualification won't matter much to them.   Hell,  they'd vote for Helen Thomas or Ann Coulter.   That block of people appears to grow every year.   

If the Dems run Hillary in 08 *cringe*,   the Reps won't stand much of a chance if they run &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; white guy.   By running a woman against Hillary,  they force that block of voters mentioned above to decide between 1 of 2 women.  With that factor eliminated,  it becomes just another election.  Oh, and by the way,  here's a chance to have a black President, too.   

If, the Dems pick someone other than Hillary,   than Condi's name will be dropped into the textbooks as a "pretty good Secretary of State".</description>
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<p>We know that the majority of American voters are uninformed,  and they vote republican because they&#8217;re Daddy always did, or they vote Democrat because their union leaders tell them they have to.   There are many people, now,  who feel that America is ready for a woman president.  Qualification won&#8217;t matter much to them.   Hell,  they&#8217;d vote for Helen Thomas or Ann Coulter.   That block of people appears to grow every year.   </p>
<p>If the Dems run Hillary in 08 *cringe*,   the Reps won&#8217;t stand much of a chance if they run <i>another</i> white guy.   By running a woman against Hillary,  they force that block of voters mentioned above to decide between 1 of 2 women.  With that factor eliminated,  it becomes just another election.  Oh, and by the way,  here&#8217;s a chance to have a black President, too.   </p>
<p>If, the Dems pick someone other than Hillary,   than Condi&#8217;s name will be dropped into the textbooks as a &#8220;pretty good Secretary of State&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianOfAtlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianOfAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know that much about Condi, but she has performed much better than I had expected as Secretary of State. She's articulate and able to command respect, both of which are good qualities in a president. I'm not one of those pushing for her to run in 2008, but I haven't seen anything that raises a big red flag, either.

I know Condi gets compared to Hillary, but there's an important difference between them. Hillary wants to rule, and has used an iron fist in the past. Condi, as far as I can tell, would be satisfied to simply serve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that much about Condi, but she has performed much better than I had expected as Secretary of State. She&#8217;s articulate and able to command respect, both of which are good qualities in a president. I&#8217;m not one of those pushing for her to run in 2008, but I haven&#8217;t seen anything that raises a big red flag, either.</p>
<p>I know Condi gets compared to Hillary, but there&#8217;s an important difference between them. Hillary wants to rule, and has used an iron fist in the past. Condi, as far as I can tell, would be satisfied to simply serve.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5650</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've noticed a number of right-leaning bloggers are cool toward Rice because they preceive her as being too cozy with the Saudis, which they seem to be extrapolating to mean she's either soft or clueless toward the Saudis' role in promoting the Islamist ideology of al Qaeda &lt;i&gt;et al&lt;/i&gt;.

The sad truth is that both major parties are really weak, mostly due to various self-inflicted wounds. I regard Rice in much the same way as Hilary Clinton: She clearly has her faults, but at this point she's still preferable to any of the others in her party whose names are being bandied about as presidential candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed a number of right-leaning bloggers are cool toward Rice because they preceive her as being too cozy with the Saudis, which they seem to be extrapolating to mean she&#8217;s either soft or clueless toward the Saudis&#8217; role in promoting the Islamist ideology of al Qaeda <i>et al</i>.</p>
<p>The sad truth is that both major parties are really weak, mostly due to various self-inflicted wounds. I regard Rice in much the same way as Hilary Clinton: She clearly has her faults, but at this point she&#8217;s still preferable to any of the others in her party whose names are being bandied about as presidential candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of things like this

http://globalization.about.com/od/usforeignpolicy/a/ricediplospeech.htm (Her speech where she outlines her plan for reform at the State department.

I have a feeling many people who dislike Condi just remember her four years as NSA and haven't really paid attention to her performance as Secretary of State. Yes her performance as NSA was lackluster but for whatever reason, she has been a good if not great Secretary of State so far. In fact if you read liberal to centrist democratic blogs like democracyarsenal or liberals against terrorism, they have praised many of her actions as Secretary of State. 

I think the main reason is that she has synergized the neocon belief of the necessity of democratic reform in the Middle East with her traditional realist upbringing, and has forged a policy that seeks the same reform, but through more traditional means such as using diplomacy and international institutions, rather than the unilateral militarisim of the first four years of the administration. Because of this, our foreign policy, of which Condi now is in almost complete control of, is far more realistic and sensible than the previous four years.

However, while it's realistic, it also consists more of humanitarian liberalism that prizes freedom and human rights over stability, and not the cold isolationism of her Republican predecessors, who valued stable dictators over unstable democratic movements. Witness our recent blocking of trade talks with Egypt until they release a political reformer who has been wrongfully imprisoned. Condi, more than the President even, has been at the forefront of pushing more for the importance of human rights in our foreign policy. For example, she was the one that wanted investigations into abuses in Uzbekistan, but was blocked by the Defense department.

She's also highly intelligent, has won over many formerly skeptical world leaders and diplomats, is articulate and eloquent, and genuinely seems like a decent individual. There are few Republican potential nominees who measure up to all of that. McCain is one. I'll be damned if I can think of another. 

Granted there are many democrats who I believe are impressive as her. Evan Byah, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Wesley Clark. But out of all the Republicans currently, who really are a sorry lot, she's one of the best.

There's got to be a reason she's the only member of the administration who has a high approval rating. 60% last time I looked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of things like this</p>
<p><a href="http://globalization.about.com/od/usforeignpolicy/a/ricediplospeech.htm" rel="nofollow">http://globalization.about.com/od/usforeignpolicy/a/ricediplospeech.htm</a> (Her speech where she outlines her plan for reform at the State department.</p>
<p>I have a feeling many people who dislike Condi just remember her four years as NSA and haven&#8217;t really paid attention to her performance as Secretary of State. Yes her performance as NSA was lackluster but for whatever reason, she has been a good if not great Secretary of State so far. In fact if you read liberal to centrist democratic blogs like democracyarsenal or liberals against terrorism, they have praised many of her actions as Secretary of State. </p>
<p>I think the main reason is that she has synergized the neocon belief of the necessity of democratic reform in the Middle East with her traditional realist upbringing, and has forged a policy that seeks the same reform, but through more traditional means such as using diplomacy and international institutions, rather than the unilateral militarisim of the first four years of the administration. Because of this, our foreign policy, of which Condi now is in almost complete control of, is far more realistic and sensible than the previous four years.</p>
<p>However, while it&#8217;s realistic, it also consists more of humanitarian liberalism that prizes freedom and human rights over stability, and not the cold isolationism of her Republican predecessors, who valued stable dictators over unstable democratic movements. Witness our recent blocking of trade talks with Egypt until they release a political reformer who has been wrongfully imprisoned. Condi, more than the President even, has been at the forefront of pushing more for the importance of human rights in our foreign policy. For example, she was the one that wanted investigations into abuses in Uzbekistan, but was blocked by the Defense department.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s also highly intelligent, has won over many formerly skeptical world leaders and diplomats, is articulate and eloquent, and genuinely seems like a decent individual. There are few Republican potential nominees who measure up to all of that. McCain is one. I&#8217;ll be damned if I can think of another. </p>
<p>Granted there are many democrats who I believe are impressive as her. Evan Byah, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Wesley Clark. But out of all the Republicans currently, who really are a sorry lot, she&#8217;s one of the best.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s got to be a reason she&#8217;s the only member of the administration who has a high approval rating. 60% last time I looked.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5633</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the gender of a candidate or the race of a candidate is pretty boring for everybody except partisans. 

To put it another way, if Barack Obama were simply a young white Senator who was THAT well spoken and thoughtful, I'd be just as excited about him. Charisma is charisma, and I just don't get that vibe from Condi at all. Maybe it's because I'm a Dem, but I think a lot of other people feel the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the gender of a candidate or the race of a candidate is pretty boring for everybody except partisans. </p>
<p>To put it another way, if Barack Obama were simply a young white Senator who was THAT well spoken and thoughtful, I&#8217;d be just as excited about him. Charisma is charisma, and I just don&#8217;t get that vibe from Condi at all. Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a Dem, but I think a lot of other people feel the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/01/24/why-condi/#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is the fact that she is an African-American female a superficial reason to get excited about her or not?  I mean besides the obvious political advantage it may yeild, is her race and gender a stand-alone cause for celebration or can it only survive if her performance is deemed meritorious?  If the latter, is this an offsetting situation - like college admissions -- add two points because of race and gender?  I share Justins curiosity.  

1 being the best Secretary of State the United States has ever had and 10 being the Anti-Christ -- where would the Donklephanters put Condi?   I put her at a 5 -- look at what she has to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is the fact that she is an African-American female a superficial reason to get excited about her or not?  I mean besides the obvious political advantage it may yeild, is her race and gender a stand-alone cause for celebration or can it only survive if her performance is deemed meritorious?  If the latter, is this an offsetting situation - like college admissions &#8212; add two points because of race and gender?  I share Justins curiosity.  </p>
<p>1 being the best Secretary of State the United States has ever had and 10 being the Anti-Christ &#8212; where would the Donklephanters put Condi?   I put her at a 5 &#8212; look at what she has to work with.</p>
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