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		<title>By: debsay</title>
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		<description>Justin,

I have asked this before and if you answered I missed it, I went on vacation for a week and didn&#039;t get a chance to check your site, but what exactly is the difference between this NSA program and the project Echelon and Carnivore that was being employed under the Clinton Administration??  

Everytime I read an article the says that it this NSA program was started by Bush I chuckle - this has been happening since the 70&#039;s!!!  

Are you really trying to claim that international communications with people known to be Al Queida don&#039;t fall within the &#039;Foreign Intelligence&#039; realm of the President&#039;s powers???  The only leads that get passed onto the FBI for further intelligence gathering (and thus a FISA warrant) are those where they have found suspicious phone calls.  I don&#039;t understand exactly what is considered illegal here??  Didn&#039;t the Patriot Act allow the NSA to provide information to the FBI???  I thought that was what the 9-11 commission said needed to occur, I thought the outrage was that the Administration didn&#039;t connect the dots before - so when they use the Patriot Act to do that then you still scream that it is illegal...

Maybe I&#039;m missing the &#039;difference&#039; between past NSA intelligence gathering and this one???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>I have asked this before and if you answered I missed it, I went on vacation for a week and didn&#8217;t get a chance to check your site, but what exactly is the difference between this NSA program and the project Echelon and Carnivore that was being employed under the Clinton Administration??  </p>
<p>Everytime I read an article the says that it this NSA program was started by Bush I chuckle &#8211; this has been happening since the 70&#8242;s!!!  </p>
<p>Are you really trying to claim that international communications with people known to be Al Queida don&#8217;t fall within the &#8216;Foreign Intelligence&#8217; realm of the President&#8217;s powers???  The only leads that get passed onto the FBI for further intelligence gathering (and thus a FISA warrant) are those where they have found suspicious phone calls.  I don&#8217;t understand exactly what is considered illegal here??  Didn&#8217;t the Patriot Act allow the NSA to provide information to the FBI???  I thought that was what the 9-11 commission said needed to occur, I thought the outrage was that the Administration didn&#8217;t connect the dots before &#8211; so when they use the Patriot Act to do that then you still scream that it is illegal&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing the &#8216;difference&#8217; between past NSA intelligence gathering and this one???</p>
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