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		<title>By: debsay</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

I have asked this before and if you answered I missed it, I went on vacation for a week and didn't get a chance to check your site, but what exactly is the difference between this NSA program and the project Echelon and Carnivore that was being employed under the Clinton Administration??  

Everytime I read an article the says that it this NSA program was started by Bush I chuckle - this has been happening since the 70's!!!  

Are you really trying to claim that international communications with people known to be Al Queida don't fall within the 'Foreign Intelligence' realm of the President's powers???  The only leads that get passed onto the FBI for further intelligence gathering (and thus a FISA warrant) are those where they have found suspicious phone calls.  I don't understand exactly what is considered illegal here??  Didn't the Patriot Act allow the NSA to provide information to the FBI???  I thought that was what the 9-11 commission said needed to occur, I thought the outrage was that the Administration didn't connect the dots before - so when they use the Patriot Act to do that then you still scream that it is illegal...

Maybe I'm missing the 'difference' between past NSA intelligence gathering and this one???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>I have asked this before and if you answered I missed it, I went on vacation for a week and didn&#8217;t get a chance to check your site, but what exactly is the difference between this NSA program and the project Echelon and Carnivore that was being employed under the Clinton Administration??  </p>
<p>Everytime I read an article the says that it this NSA program was started by Bush I chuckle - this has been happening since the 70&#8217;s!!!  </p>
<p>Are you really trying to claim that international communications with people known to be Al Queida don&#8217;t fall within the &#8216;Foreign Intelligence&#8217; realm of the President&#8217;s powers???  The only leads that get passed onto the FBI for further intelligence gathering (and thus a FISA warrant) are those where they have found suspicious phone calls.  I don&#8217;t understand exactly what is considered illegal here??  Didn&#8217;t the Patriot Act allow the NSA to provide information to the FBI???  I thought that was what the 9-11 commission said needed to occur, I thought the outrage was that the Administration didn&#8217;t connect the dots before - so when they use the Patriot Act to do that then you still scream that it is illegal&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing the &#8216;difference&#8217; between past NSA intelligence gathering and this one???</p>
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