Comments on: Carter’s Warrantless Wiretapping

By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Obama Explains FISA Position

Donklephant » Blog Archive » Obama Explains FISA Position — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:34:00 +0000

[...] not get in the way of reupping FISA legislation that has existed for the past 30 years. And as I said back in 2006…it’s not about eavesdropping…it’s about the lack of accountability… I [...]

By: DosPeros

DosPeros — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:32:48 +0000

This is a moving target of a prosecution. Is the argument that the wiretapping was unconstitutional because it violated peoples 4th Amendment rights or because it violated the seperation of powers, or a combination of the two? Your condescending remarks toward PowerLine are laughable. I thought it was responding to the crux of the grievance — but apparently that is the legislative language of FISA. Jimmy Carters words were hypocritical. He proclaims that “innocent Americans” may have had their “privacy violated” — that sounds like a 4th Amendment argument to me. In fact that was the very argument that the Truong guy made - amazingly stupid.

The question of whether the wiretapping was within the scope of FISA and thus requiring a retroactive warrant is a seperate issue. Then there is the issue of the inherent power of the executive to do what is necessary despite Congress. Then there is the AUMF which could have legally bestowed a DUTY upon the President to bypass the FISA court.

This whole issue is a great test of political leanings and you have to love what it reveals. Yes, very smart lawyers are analyzing the arguments and making good arguments both ways based on a set of very generalized facts - the facts they are analyzing might not even be the real facts. The legality of the wiretaps will ultimately rest on the specific facts of the case which are TOP SECRET. So those people obssessing and so certain of the grievous constitutional wrongs reveal obvious partisan hackery without case specific facts.

By: Reza

Reza — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:20:30 +0000

I hope this will not be an excuse for more pressure on Iran. any sanction and hardline poletics against Iran will just enforce radical groups and this is against Iranians as well.

By: Craig R.

Craig R. — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:33:23 +0000

Sorry — that should be “Q&O” not “B&O,” above

(there are certainly times I wish one could correct the comment after you read what you have written )

By: Craig R.

Craig R. — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:31:08 +0000

The original post at B&O wasn’t that informative, but the comment thread was.

Thank you.

By: Justin Gardner

Justin Gardner — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:02:22 +0000

Well John, way to jump on the soapbox. The majority is down below you on solid intellectually honest ground.

Listen, if you want to comment on this story, fine. But this site isn’t a place for zealots or name callers. This is a place for debate in the spirit of what we’ve lost given this partisan firestorm.

Please respect that.

By: john w. johnson

john w. johnson — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:35:32 +0000

This will cover everything, from 9/11 until now.

Because the Bush adminstration came to power by fraudulent and deceptive means (twice) and in order to stay in power they MUST continue to use fraud, lies and deception. This is a manditory requirement for anyone apointed by Bush & Co. Therefore anything, ANYTHING generated from the White how must be scrutinized for solid facts.

These are not decent people, American in name omly, not beleif. Why don’t so many of our citizens get that?

Why are too many citizens or the media or congress or the senate still debating anything Bush & Co. spits out as if it were credible and beyond reproach?

This adminstration is composed of greedy, cowardly vultures and all of those, particular those that hold the public trust through elected office and those trusted to give the truth to the public via the media and DID NOT raise a voice to this putrid presidency it will go down in history as America’s greatest cowards, America’s greatest shame.

As for me, I’m ashamed of them now.

We are a nation of fools.