Aside from snide comments about Diebold getting out the vote, the degree that the GOP faces all tag themselves onto G.W.’s coattails, with this more and more blatant dishonesty, wil hurt them in the eyes of “moderates,� who are still the audience to reach.

I think if all of this turns out to be dishonest, it will indeed hurt them. And that’s certainly what it seems like right now, given the information we’re presented now.

Aside from snide comments about Diebold getting out the vote, the degree that the GOP faces all tag themselves onto G.W.’s coattails, with this more and more blatant dishonesty, wil hurt them in the eyes of “moderates,” who are still the audience to reach.

Believe it or not, I was not very interested in politics before this nutjob became president.

Sure, it may make him less credible, but this really won’t lower any sentiment. At least that I can see.

Not sure what you are saying here; lower what sentiment?

It won’t make him less credible to his fans, they are blind. He can’t get any less credible to the reality based community.

Seriously, it’s amazing how politicians will make blanket claims like Bush did, knowing quite well it’s a matter of time before they’re proved wrong.

Thoughts?

The facet of this that bothers me is the apparent reflex to lie.

The case could easially be made that Abramoff didn’t have the direct influence with G.W. that some claim (however, that “Pioneer” status does bring in some questions), but this denial just makes this presidency less creditable.