Comments on: Crunchy Cons Might be the Ones to Reign in Big Business http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:40:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: mike george http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-8622 mike george Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:38:47 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-8622 Sounds like the end justifies the means. Seems to me that the communists acted that way. If it helped them realize their utopia on earth, then all manner of suffering could be justified, because it would be better in the end. But for who? Not those 10,000. Even though some might be better off someday, incalculable suffering will be the lot of most-bankruptcy, broken marriages, illness...My point is any system that uses this type of logic is in trouble, because it's sowing seeds of tremendous difficulties in the future. Sounds like the end justifies the means. Seems to me that the communists acted that way. If it helped them realize their utopia on earth, then all manner of suffering could be justified, because it would be better in the end. But for who? Not those 10,000. Even though some might be better off someday, incalculable suffering will be the lot of most-bankruptcy, broken marriages, illness…My point is any system that uses this type of logic is in trouble, because it’s sowing seeds of tremendous difficulties in the future.

]]> By: Hunter McDaniel http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7651 Hunter McDaniel Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:01:01 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7651 As Tom says, the economy as a whole benefits if there's a task we can accomplish with 10,000 fewer workers; those workers can move on to something else that needs doing. The dark side of the AT&T/BellSouth merger is of a different type, namely the increased leverage the new corporation has to reshape the Internet for the worse - a goal they are very open about. As Tom says, the economy as a whole benefits if there’s a task we can accomplish with 10,000 fewer workers; those workers can move on to something else that needs doing.

The dark side of the AT&T/BellSouth merger is of a different type, namely the increased leverage the new corporation has to reshape the Internet for the worse - a goal they are very open about.

]]> By: Tom http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7548 Tom Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:51:06 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7548 "For example, who exactly benefits by AT&T taking over BellSouth and firing 10,000 employees? And don’t tell me “the shareholders.â€Â? While stock ownership is a vital part of an open and robust economy, there is more to a healthy society than buoyant stock prices." In the long run, the economy as a whole. The British have a word for layoffs - redundancy. The people being laid off, typically, are no longer adding as much to the company as they're recieving in benefits. That makes them a productivity sink. So they get laid off, and they generally find another job where there was a need for more workers. And yes, it sucks. I've been there. But I'm a hell of a lot more productive at my new job. “For example, who exactly benefits by AT&T taking over BellSouth and firing 10,000 employees? And don’t tell me “the shareholders.â€Â? While stock ownership is a vital part of an open and robust economy, there is more to a healthy society than buoyant stock prices.”

In the long run, the economy as a whole. The British have a word for layoffs - redundancy. The people being laid off, typically, are no longer adding as much to the company as they’re recieving in benefits. That makes them a productivity sink. So they get laid off, and they generally find another job where there was a need for more workers.

And yes, it sucks. I’ve been there. But I’m a hell of a lot more productive at my new job.

]]> By: callimachus http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7469 callimachus Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:35:37 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7469 Just what we need. Another label. Just what we need. Another label.

]]> By: Jonathon York http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7468 Jonathon York Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:34:45 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/06/crunchy-cons-might-be-the-ones-to-reign-in-big-business/#comment-7468 Given the character of the term 'conservative', one would expect that 'conservation' would be a principal component. It is at least consistent. One could even cite traditional Western religious grounds for a robust stance favoring environmental preservation. What is strange is that 'crunchy conservatives' have not been more vocal. Perhaps this was because they did not want to risk being associated with radical revolutionary environmentalists? Given the character of the term ‘conservative’, one would expect that ‘conservation’ would be a principal component. It is at least consistent. One could even cite traditional Western religious grounds for a robust stance favoring environmental preservation. What is strange is that ‘crunchy conservatives’ have not been more vocal. Perhaps this was because they did not want to risk being associated with radical revolutionary environmentalists?

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