Comments on: Student Editor Fired Over Mohammad Cartoons http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:22:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: bnhekuzarina http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-385290 bnhekuzarina Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:41:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-385290 <strong>titrywipaxoto...</strong> exkenowexywo... titrywipaxoto…

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]]> By: Meghan http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8285 Meghan Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:37:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8285 Probligo, I think this issue has been out there forever, I remember discussing the Anarchist's Cookbook in journalism school several years ago. The thing is, just like violence in films, are these types of articles really going to convince an otherwise moral, ethical, law-abiding person to try it out when they otherwise wouldn't? Don't you think the only people deranged enough to use these articles as how-to guides already have a prediliction for this kind of behavior? I don't think a newspaper that publishes a story like this is culpable for one lunatic who uses it to harm, just like people who make violent video games aren't responsible for one instable person becoming "inspired". I, personally, could see the value in printing a story like this: it's interesting. I'd read it. What happened in NZ anyway? Did the campus report a surge in date rape afterward? Probligo,
I think this issue has been out there forever, I remember discussing the Anarchist’s Cookbook in journalism school several years ago. The thing is, just like violence in films, are these types of articles really going to convince an otherwise moral, ethical, law-abiding person to try it out when they otherwise wouldn’t? Don’t you think the only people deranged enough to use these articles as how-to guides already have a prediliction for this kind of behavior?

I don’t think a newspaper that publishes a story like this is culpable for one lunatic who uses it to harm, just like people who make violent video games aren’t responsible for one instable person becoming “inspired”. I, personally, could see the value in printing a story like this: it’s interesting. I’d read it.

What happened in NZ anyway? Did the campus report a surge in date rape afterward?

]]> By: probligo http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8220 probligo Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:06:30 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8220 How would all of you go with an editor (of a university student paper) who publishes what is essentially a "Drug Rape 101" article, justifying it with the reason that "people should know what to look for, what to do"... Including; What chemicals to use What to put them into How to mix them How much to use Time to take effect How long the effects last. Happened last year at one of NZ's larger unis. Oh, and the editor responsible was a woman. The issue was banned and recalled. How would all of you go with an editor (of a university student paper) who publishes what is essentially a “Drug Rape 101″ article, justifying it with the reason that “people should know what to look for, what to do”…

Including;

What chemicals to use
What to put them into
How to mix them
How much to use
Time to take effect
How long the effects last.

Happened last year at one of NZ’s larger unis. Oh, and the editor responsible was a woman. The issue was banned and recalled.

]]> By: Callimachus http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8209 Callimachus Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:57:56 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8209 reader_iam asks the 64 million dollar question: "does what happened to him help or hurt him when he tries to get his first journalism job." All my experience says "hurts him." Not necessarily because he came down on one side of the political fence, but because he showed himself to be an independent spirit, a firebrand willing to stir the pot and poke the hornets' nest. Gods forbid we should have such in the corporate newsroom. reader_iam asks the 64 million dollar question: “does what happened to him help or hurt him when he tries to get his first journalism job.” All my experience says “hurts him.” Not necessarily because he came down on one side of the political fence, but because he showed himself to be an independent spirit, a firebrand willing to stir the pot and poke the hornets’ nest. Gods forbid we should have such in the corporate newsroom.

]]> By: reader_iam http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8208 reader_iam Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:19:09 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8208 PC trumps learning everytime. This is wrong, but it sure doesn't surprise me. A wonder if Gorton intends to pursue a career in journalism, and if so, whether this incident will inspire him to be the go-along-to-get along type or a maverick? For that matter, in this climate, does what happened to him help or hurt him when he tries to get his first journalism job, if that's the path he takes? PC trumps learning everytime. This is wrong, but it sure doesn’t surprise me. A wonder if Gorton intends to pursue a career in journalism, and if so, whether this incident will inspire him to be the go-along-to-get along type or a maverick? For that matter, in this climate, does what happened to him help or hurt him when he tries to get his first journalism job, if that’s the path he takes?

]]> By: Meghan http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8206 Meghan Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:41:59 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8206 To add support, this is a university newspaper, meaning it has the luxury of not having to turn a profit and placate its readers. If our universities' journalism programs cower to fear and retroactive criticism, how can we expect the private, profit-driven media not to? To add support, this is a university newspaper, meaning it has the luxury of not having to turn a profit and placate its readers. If our universities’ journalism programs cower to fear and retroactive criticism, how can we expect the private, profit-driven media not to?

]]> By: Meredith http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8200 Meredith Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:07:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8200 Plus, I can think of speech that is a hell of a lot more offensive than that. Not that it matters, except that this isn't even speech that comes close to being an exception to the First Amendment. Plus, I can think of speech that is a hell of a lot more offensive than that. Not that it matters, except that this isn’t even speech that comes close to being an exception to the First Amendment.

]]> By: JollyRoger http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8198 JollyRoger Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:50:02 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/15/student-editor-fired-over-mohammad-cartoons/#comment-8198 I agree wth you-the kid should not have been fired. Offensive speech deserves the light of day. If there was ever a reason to take up the gun and fight, it would be for the right to offend. It's a hell of a lot better reason than a few meaningless purple fingers. I agree wth you-the kid should not have been fired.

Offensive speech deserves the light of day. If there was ever a reason to take up the gun and fight, it would be for the right to offend. It’s a hell of a lot better reason than a few meaningless purple fingers.

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