Comments on: The CIA Paid This Guy 100K http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jordan http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8920 Jordan Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:33:30 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8920 <i>instead of war that brought the relatively much greater freedom and democracy they currently have, which, even accompanied by some violence as it is, killed far fewer Iraqis than Saddam was, and for better cause. </i> You're kidding right? <i>Well, Bush wanted the war just as much as Clinton before him. If you go back, back, back, you will find that initially the Democrats wanted to show up Bush One, then they wanted to stop Bush Two. It’s all just political positioning. But, the Democrats were strong supporters of the WMD position long before it left Bush’s lips. </i> You have to be kidding too...right? <i>It’s easy to ask in retrospect ‘OMG why oh why didn’t we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!’</i> Well, to quote a talking point from the President, this is just revisionist history. You can't label anyone who had an anti-war opinion unpatriotic, and then when they all turned out to be right, start talking about 20/20 hindsight blah blah blah. Where does the buck stop. Answer me that...please, someone, take some responsibility for SOMETHING. instead of war that brought the relatively much greater freedom and democracy they currently have, which, even accompanied by some violence as it is, killed far fewer Iraqis than Saddam was, and for better cause.

You’re kidding right?

Well, Bush wanted the war just as much as Clinton before him. If you go back, back, back, you will find that initially the Democrats wanted to show up Bush One, then they wanted to stop Bush Two.

It’s all just political positioning. But, the Democrats were strong supporters of the WMD position long before it left Bush’s lips.

You have to be kidding too…right?

It’s easy to ask in retrospect ‘OMG why oh why didn’t we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!’

Well, to quote a talking point from the President, this is just revisionist history. You can’t label anyone who had an anti-war opinion unpatriotic, and then when they all turned out to be right, start talking about 20/20 hindsight blah blah blah.

Where does the buck stop. Answer me that…please, someone, take some responsibility for SOMETHING.

]]> By: TallDave http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8855 TallDave Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:43:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8855 <i>Turns out they were largely right,</i> They were almost entirely wrong, except about the cost in dollars. <i>Also, this was some pretty significant intel. In fact, it could have stopped the war.</i> Great, we could have Saddam still in power, and actually building WMD instead of just pretending to have them. And Iraqis would still be enjoying their brutal tyranny with rape rooms and mass graves, instead of war that brought the relatively much greater freedom and democracy they currently have, which, even accompanied by some violence as it is, killed far fewer Iraqis than Saddam was, and for better cause. Turns out they were largely right,

They were almost entirely wrong, except about the cost in dollars.

Also, this was some pretty significant intel. In fact, it could have stopped the war.

Great, we could have Saddam still in power, and actually building WMD instead of just pretending to have them. And Iraqis would still be enjoying their brutal tyranny with rape rooms and mass graves, instead of war that brought the relatively much greater freedom and democracy they currently have, which, even accompanied by some violence as it is, killed far fewer Iraqis than Saddam was, and for better cause.

]]> By: Lynn http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8800 Lynn Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:23:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8800 > The only "nattering nabobs of negativity," as I recall, were Democrats. Turns out they were largely right, and our warplanners chose not to listen to an Iraqi well-positioned to back them up. Doesn't mean a hill of beans to where we are in Iraq now, but it shows a lot about how decisions were made. >

The only “nattering nabobs of negativity,” as I recall, were Democrats. Turns out they were largely right, and our warplanners chose not to listen to an Iraqi well-positioned to back them up. Doesn’t mean a hill of beans to where we are in Iraq now, but it shows a lot about how decisions were made.

]]> By: Darian http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8756 Darian Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:51:32 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8756 Well, Bush wanted the war just as much as Clinton before him. If you go back, back, back, you will find that initially the Democrats wanted to show up Bush One, then they wanted to stop Bush Two. It's all just political positioning. But, the Democrats were strong supporters of the WMD position long before it left Bush's lips. Well, Bush wanted the war just as much as Clinton before him. If you go back, back, back, you will find that initially the Democrats wanted to show up Bush One, then they wanted to stop Bush Two.

It’s all just political positioning. But, the Democrats were strong supporters of the WMD position long before it left Bush’s lips.

]]> By: Justin Gardner http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8753 Justin Gardner Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:03:30 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8753 <blockquote>It’s easy to ask in retrospect ‘OMG why oh why didn’t we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!’</blockquote> Agreed, but that's what WE do. Also, this was some pretty significant intel. In fact, it could have stopped the war. As Michael has suggested today, Bush wanted this war and so any intel that conflicted with the WMD claims they were making to drum up support was ignored. In the end, this is an interesting footnote to this story and probably little else.

It’s easy to ask in retrospect ‘OMG why oh why didn’t we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!’

Agreed, but that’s what WE do.

Also, this was some pretty significant intel. In fact, it could have stopped the war. As Michael has suggested today, Bush wanted this war and so any intel that conflicted with the WMD claims they were making to drum up support was ignored.

In the end, this is an interesting footnote to this story and probably little else.

]]> By: Citizen Duck http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8752 Citizen Duck Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:56:02 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8752 <blockquote>Conveniently we didn’t listen to anyone who disagreed with the premise that we should invade Iraq.</blockquote> Well, if the choices came down to: invade Iraq, or not to invade Iraq We were going to have to <i>conveniently</i> not listen to one side or the other.

Conveniently we didn’t listen to anyone who disagreed with the premise that we should invade Iraq.

Well, if the choices came down to:

invade Iraq, or
not to invade Iraq

We were going to have to conveniently not listen to one side or the other.

]]> By: Michael Reynolds http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8751 Michael Reynolds Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:50:14 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8751 Conveniently we didn't listen to anyone who disagreed with the premise that we should invade Iraq. Conveniently we didn’t listen to anyone who disagreed with the premise that we should invade Iraq.

]]> By: Citizen Duck http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/comment-page-1/#comment-8749 Citizen Duck Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:46:50 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/03/21/the-cia-paid-this-guy-100k-for-iraq-weapons-information/#comment-8749 <blockquote>Again…why did we not pay attention to this guy? Maybe because he wouldn’t play the PR game we wanted him to.</blockquote> Or perhaps because he was just one voice among many, conflicting, voices. It's easy to ask in retrospect 'OMG why oh why didn't we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!'

Again…why did we not pay attention to this guy? Maybe because he wouldn’t play the PR game we wanted him to.

Or perhaps because he was just one voice among many, conflicting, voices.

It’s easy to ask in retrospect ‘OMG why oh why didn’t we listen to the one that turned out to be right?!’

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