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		<title>By: crusader bunnypants</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15698</link>
		<dc:creator>crusader bunnypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISN&#039;T THE PUNISHMENT FOR SPYING AND TREASON DURING A TIME OF WAR, um DEATH?

Rice leaked defense info to AIPAC &quot;lobbyist&quot;/&quot;spy&quot;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/21/AR2006042101648_pf.html

F*** THE CHRISTIAN/ZIONIST SPIES AND TRAITORS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISN&#8217;T THE PUNISHMENT FOR SPYING AND TREASON DURING A TIME OF WAR, um DEATH?</p>
<p>Rice leaked defense info to AIPAC &#8220;lobbyist&#8221;/&#8221;spy&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/21/AR2006042101648_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/21/AR2006042101648_pf.html</a></p>
<p>F*** THE CHRISTIAN/ZIONIST SPIES AND TRAITORS</p>
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		<title>By: Bison</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15676</link>
		<dc:creator>Bison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WhatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s to understand? If you realize our freedoms and liberties have been stomped on over the past 5 years then what are you doing?
I know what youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re doing here and IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll state it again, this site is part of the problem. YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re trying to find the middle ground where we can all hold hands and be happy.
Neville Chamberlain would be proud of your efforts.
BTW, I would Trust Markos Moulitsas with ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œmyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? party (as you put it) long before I would ever want it to fall into the hand of people such as yourself (to late), not because I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t think your intelligent, insightful, caring and reasonable, but because misguided is still misguided.
ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a wonderful goal to try and heal the political fractures that have developed in our society but you have to realize that you have to have two willing sides to achieve that goal.
As a kid I fell in love with what America tried offered people, Hope, liberty, justice and equality. Even as a kid I knew how lucky I was to be born and raised in this country.
As a teenager in high school civics class I learned that these principles must be protected and that we must always be on the look out for folks trying to infringe on these basic rights. Did I believe back then that we would actually be called upon to defend those principles? Absolutely not, do I believe that we are being called upon to defend them now? Absolutely.
Go ahead and tell me how wrong I am, tell me how uninformed and naive my position is, how I just donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t understand, thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s your Right Justin, the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America guaranteeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s you that right, and if I have to fight and die to protect your freedom to tell me IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m stupid, I WILL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WhatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s to understand? If you realize our freedoms and liberties have been stomped on over the past 5 years then what are you doing?<br />
I know what youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re doing here and IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll state it again, this site is part of the problem. YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re trying to find the middle ground where we can all hold hands and be happy.<br />
Neville Chamberlain would be proud of your efforts.<br />
BTW, I would Trust Markos Moulitsas with ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œmyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? party (as you put it) long before I would ever want it to fall into the hand of people such as yourself (to late), not because I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t think your intelligent, insightful, caring and reasonable, but because misguided is still misguided.<br />
ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a wonderful goal to try and heal the political fractures that have developed in our society but you have to realize that you have to have two willing sides to achieve that goal.<br />
As a kid I fell in love with what America tried offered people, Hope, liberty, justice and equality. Even as a kid I knew how lucky I was to be born and raised in this country.<br />
As a teenager in high school civics class I learned that these principles must be protected and that we must always be on the look out for folks trying to infringe on these basic rights. Did I believe back then that we would actually be called upon to defend those principles? Absolutely not, do I believe that we are being called upon to defend them now? Absolutely.<br />
Go ahead and tell me how wrong I am, tell me how uninformed and naive my position is, how I just donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t understand, thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s your Right Justin, the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America guaranteeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s you that right, and if I have to fight and die to protect your freedom to tell me IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m stupid, I WILL.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15620</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Bison, you really aren&#039;t even trying to understand what&#039;s going on at this site. I realize our freedoms and liberties have been stomped on in the past 5 years, and if you read more of this site, you&#039;d realize that.

Oh well. Keep commenting, but I&#039;d suggest you&#039;d really try to have earnest conversations instead of what you&#039;ve been contributing so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Bison, you really aren&#8217;t even trying to understand what&#8217;s going on at this site. I realize our freedoms and liberties have been stomped on in the past 5 years, and if you read more of this site, you&#8217;d realize that.</p>
<p>Oh well. Keep commenting, but I&#8217;d suggest you&#8217;d really try to have earnest conversations instead of what you&#8217;ve been contributing so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Bison</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t group me in with the unethical people on the right, this is not about two wrongs donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t make a right or an eye for an eye, this is about defending what so many have fought and died for, our Freedoms and liberties! 
I feel sorry for you Justin; itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s like watching the sheep led to the slaughter.
DonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t worry, you just sit back and keep debating and conversing and chatting.
Let someone who cares about his country defend your Freedom of Speech, your Right to Privacy, your Right to Choose.
Maybe the rest of the world is right about us lazy Americans, maybe itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s going to take the loss of your FREEDOMS before you wake up.
Nah, it canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t happen here, not in the USA, donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t worry your government will keep you safe, go put on American Idol and relax, forget about it, sleep tight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t group me in with the unethical people on the right, this is not about two wrongs donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t make a right or an eye for an eye, this is about defending what so many have fought and died for, our Freedoms and liberties!<br />
I feel sorry for you Justin; itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s like watching the sheep led to the slaughter.<br />
DonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t worry, you just sit back and keep debating and conversing and chatting.<br />
Let someone who cares about his country defend your Freedom of Speech, your Right to Privacy, your Right to Choose.<br />
Maybe the rest of the world is right about us lazy Americans, maybe itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s going to take the loss of your FREEDOMS before you wake up.<br />
Nah, it canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t happen here, not in the USA, donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t worry your government will keep you safe, go put on American Idol and relax, forget about it, sleep tight.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15475</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You have to fight fire with fire;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fighting fire with fire seems like the &quot;two wrongs make a right&quot; strategy. I just don&#039;t think that&#039;ll help. Also, we don&#039;t represent fence sitting or compromises. More than anything, we&#039;re about creating a forum where there&#039;s an open dialogue. We listen instead of name call. That doesn&#039;t mean we agree all the time. Far from it, and you&#039;ll see that in many of the comment threads. We actually have genuine debate, instead of the bomb-throwing that defines the rest of the blogosphere. And I wouldn&#039;t give that up for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You have to fight fire with fire;</p></blockquote>
<p>Fighting fire with fire seems like the &#8220;two wrongs make a right&#8221; strategy. I just don&#8217;t think that&#8217;ll help. Also, we don&#8217;t represent fence sitting or compromises. More than anything, we&#8217;re about creating a forum where there&#8217;s an open dialogue. We listen instead of name call. That doesn&#8217;t mean we agree all the time. Far from it, and you&#8217;ll see that in many of the comment threads. We actually have genuine debate, instead of the bomb-throwing that defines the rest of the blogosphere. And I wouldn&#8217;t give that up for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Bison</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15473</link>
		<dc:creator>Bison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogs like this (Donklephant) are part of the problem as far as IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m concerned, I&#039;m not a far left wing nut, IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m just a really concerned American citizen! I see whatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s happening to my country and I want to act to save it! You have to fight fire with fire; I feel like we must stand up for our country while we still can. I would never advocate anything unethical or underhanded (I&#039;m not a neo-con), but I&#039;m also not going to sit back and just take it! 
I&#039;m sorry to say, you folks here are fooling yourselves, you can&#039;t just sit on the fence forever, the right wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t allow that, they are going to keep pushing and pushing! 
The neo-conservative movement threw the Republican Party is making fundamental and disastrous changes to our country and society.
 Compromise? Consciences? No way, those are just tactics to them; they want what they want no matter how they get it.
Do you want what they want? How much are you willing to give up to them? It is never going to be enough.
Someday we will be able to come together as a nation again, I pray for that day, but this is not that day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs like this (Donklephant) are part of the problem as far as IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m concerned, I&#8217;m not a far left wing nut, IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m just a really concerned American citizen! I see whatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s happening to my country and I want to act to save it! You have to fight fire with fire; I feel like we must stand up for our country while we still can. I would never advocate anything unethical or underhanded (I&#8217;m not a neo-con), but I&#8217;m also not going to sit back and just take it!<br />
I&#8217;m sorry to say, you folks here are fooling yourselves, you can&#8217;t just sit on the fence forever, the right wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t allow that, they are going to keep pushing and pushing!<br />
The neo-conservative movement threw the Republican Party is making fundamental and disastrous changes to our country and society.<br />
 Compromise? Consciences? No way, those are just tactics to them; they want what they want no matter how they get it.<br />
Do you want what they want? How much are you willing to give up to them? It is never going to be enough.<br />
Someday we will be able to come together as a nation again, I pray for that day, but this is not that day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dav</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-4/#comment-15145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-15016</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nonetheless, banning him over the above comments is even more amusing. What policy applies here: agree or be gone?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agree or be gone? Perhaps you haven&#039;t been reading the comments. The point of this site is to open up a forum for earnest debate, free from the venom that defines most other blogs. Trust me, we disagree constantly on this blog, but we do it with civility and respect. Well, most of the time at least...

Listen, DAV clearly crossed the line. If this were in a real world forum, his language and insults wouldn&#039;t be tolerated. Why should the blogosphere be any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nonetheless, banning him over the above comments is even more amusing. What policy applies here: agree or be gone?</p></blockquote>
<p>Agree or be gone? Perhaps you haven&#8217;t been reading the comments. The point of this site is to open up a forum for earnest debate, free from the venom that defines most other blogs. Trust me, we disagree constantly on this blog, but we do it with civility and respect. Well, most of the time at least&#8230;</p>
<p>Listen, DAV clearly crossed the line. If this were in a real world forum, his language and insults wouldn&#8217;t be tolerated. Why should the blogosphere be any different?</p>
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		<title>By: mt</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-11676</link>
		<dc:creator>mt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?

&quot;See, this is what I love. Dav couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t contain himself and so his words speak directly to why our site is so desperately needed.

Have fun over at the Kos because you wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be commenting here again!&quot;

If the truth be told, I stumbled upon this site because Dav or Dave&#039;s site was so ridiculous I thought I&#039;d amuse myself by following his trail. Nonetheless, banning him over the above comments is even more amusing. What policy applies here: agree or be gone? Most would relish the opportunity to clock, again and again, an opponet that at worst makes their case. In any event, good luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?</p>
<p>&#8220;See, this is what I love. Dav couldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t contain himself and so his words speak directly to why our site is so desperately needed.</p>
<p>Have fun over at the Kos because you wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be commenting here again!&#8221;</p>
<p>If the truth be told, I stumbled upon this site because Dav or Dave&#8217;s site was so ridiculous I thought I&#8217;d amuse myself by following his trail. Nonetheless, banning him over the above comments is even more amusing. What policy applies here: agree or be gone? Most would relish the opportunity to clock, again and again, an opponet that at worst makes their case. In any event, good luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10644</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, this is what I love. Dav couldn&#039;t contain himself and so his words speak directly to why our site is so desperately needed.

Have fun over at the Kos because you won&#039;t be commenting here again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is what I love. Dav couldn&#8217;t contain himself and so his words speak directly to why our site is so desperately needed.</p>
<p>Have fun over at the Kos because you won&#8217;t be commenting here again!</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10639</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Your blog is for analogous to Vichy France. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What an odd sort of statement, considering whithering contempt for moderates and centrists was such a defining quality of fascism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Your blog is for analogous to Vichy France.
</p></blockquote>
<p>What an odd sort of statement, considering whithering contempt for moderates and centrists was such a defining quality of fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dav</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10570</link>
		<dc:creator>Dav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is for analogous to Vichy France. 

Eat Shit you fascist enabler!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is for analogous to Vichy France. </p>
<p>Eat Shit you fascist enabler!</p>
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		<title>By: amba</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10494</link>
		<dc:creator>amba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least he didn&#039;t say &quot;cucarachas,&quot; but he implied it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least he didn&#8217;t say &#8220;cucarachas,&#8221; but he implied it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10488</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This new brand of angry liberal is a much needed reaction to the far right.

Shame on you for not seeing this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You got me Dav. Reacting to the demagogues on the far right with demagogues of our own is exactly what we need. Because spin is much better than reason.

In any event, we&#039;ll be here when you get sick of it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This new brand of angry liberal is a much needed reaction to the far right.</p>
<p>Shame on you for not seeing this.</p></blockquote>
<p>You got me Dav. Reacting to the demagogues on the far right with demagogues of our own is exactly what we need. Because spin is much better than reason.</p>
<p>In any event, we&#8217;ll be here when you get sick of it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dav</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10469</link>
		<dc:creator>Dav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fraid not. Kos is just what the left has needed for sometime. The Rightwing didn&#039;t win elections by pussy-footin around and neither will we. The Dems have been way to nice and wishy-washy. This new brand of angry liberal is a much needed reaction to the far right. 

Shame on you for not seeing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;fraid not. Kos is just what the left has needed for sometime. The Rightwing didn&#8217;t win elections by pussy-footin around and neither will we. The Dems have been way to nice and wishy-washy. This new brand of angry liberal is a much needed reaction to the far right. </p>
<p>Shame on you for not seeing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10426</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I checked out a republican supporting blog called misunderestimated just now which refers to those taking part in the immigration marches in L.A as, and I quote ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‹Å“cockroaches swarming in broad daylightÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢. Now thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s extreme.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cian, I&#039;m a Democrat. That&#039;s why I talk about Kos. Of course there are hacks on the right too.

And by the way, just because Kos isn&#039;t part of the far left doesn&#039;t mean he doesn&#039;t APPEAL to that base and rally them. And again, the far left represents a very small group, while independents and moderate Dems represent the majority.

By the way, good thoughts all around. I&#039;m glad we&#039;re continuing to have this debate.

One question, you think you could have this debate on many other sites than Donklephant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I checked out a republican supporting blog called misunderestimated just now which refers to those taking part in the immigration marches in L.A as, and I quote ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‹Å“cockroaches swarming in broad daylightÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢. Now thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s extreme.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cian, I&#8217;m a Democrat. That&#8217;s why I talk about Kos. Of course there are hacks on the right too.</p>
<p>And by the way, just because Kos isn&#8217;t part of the far left doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t APPEAL to that base and rally them. And again, the far left represents a very small group, while independents and moderate Dems represent the majority.</p>
<p>By the way, good thoughts all around. I&#8217;m glad we&#8217;re continuing to have this debate.</p>
<p>One question, you think you could have this debate on many other sites than Donklephant?</p>
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		<title>By: goy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10394</link>
		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- &#039;cockroaches swarming in broad daylight&#039;

Can&#039;t find misunderestimated.*  In any event, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s an inaccurate characterization of a group of people who fall into one of three categories: they are either (a) violating the law by having illegally entered the country, (b) abusing their 1A rights by *advocating* violating the law or (c) engaging in the transparent and disingenuous sophistry of trying to turn a matter of law into an issue of race or ethnicity. Given the number of Americans who don&#039;t take kindly to lawbreaking and/or race-baiting, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s very extreme, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- &#8216;cockroaches swarming in broad daylight&#8217;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t find misunderestimated.*  In any event, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s an inaccurate characterization of a group of people who fall into one of three categories: they are either (a) violating the law by having illegally entered the country, (b) abusing their 1A rights by *advocating* violating the law or (c) engaging in the transparent and disingenuous sophistry of trying to turn a matter of law into an issue of race or ethnicity. Given the number of Americans who don&#8217;t take kindly to lawbreaking and/or race-baiting, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s very extreme, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Cian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>Cian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an outsider (Irish, but  weirdly obsessed with American politics), the very idea that anyone would considers Kos as part of the crazy left is totally bizarre. My education is built on sites like Daily Kos, beyondthe beltway, Andrew Sullivan, Talking points memo, NRO and Digsby. All have strong opinions and are not slow to voice them and , yes, betimes, what they voice is out of line and thoughtless, but never uninteresting or not worth engaging with. I checked out a republican supporting blog called misunderestimated just now which refers to those taking part in the immigration marches in L.A as, and I quote &#039;cockroaches swarming in broad daylight&#039;.  Now that&#039;s extreme.  The otthers are inspiring examples of what it means to care about the direction your country is taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an outsider (Irish, but  weirdly obsessed with American politics), the very idea that anyone would considers Kos as part of the crazy left is totally bizarre. My education is built on sites like Daily Kos, beyondthe beltway, Andrew Sullivan, Talking points memo, NRO and Digsby. All have strong opinions and are not slow to voice them and , yes, betimes, what they voice is out of line and thoughtless, but never uninteresting or not worth engaging with. I checked out a republican supporting blog called misunderestimated just now which refers to those taking part in the immigration marches in L.A as, and I quote &#8216;cockroaches swarming in broad daylight&#8217;.  Now that&#8217;s extreme.  The otthers are inspiring examples of what it means to care about the direction your country is taking.</p>
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		<title>By: GN</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10373</link>
		<dc:creator>GN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re angry and you can get enough centrists to go along with you, you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t need much vision - at least, until youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re in power.

Tom - replace the word centrists with republicans and you have a fair, one sentence description of the curent administration.

I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want another six years of him bashing Democrats on Fox News next to a fawning Sean Hannity.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?

Kreiz - it would be a nice thing to see NO ONE next to a fawning Sean Hannity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re angry and you can get enough centrists to go along with you, you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t need much vision &#8211; at least, until youÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re in power.</p>
<p>Tom &#8211; replace the word centrists with republicans and you have a fair, one sentence description of the curent administration.</p>
<p>I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want another six years of him bashing Democrats on Fox News next to a fawning Sean Hannity.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?</p>
<p>Kreiz &#8211; it would be a nice thing to see NO ONE next to a fawning Sean Hannity.</p>
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		<title>By: kreiz</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/03/29/would-you-trust-this-man-with-your-party/comment-page-3/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>kreiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA-  way back when in this thread, you argued that Kos was a moderate who didn&#039;t view Lieberman (an 83% ACU voting record as a liberal) as a Republican.  You said Kos liked Liberman.  He may have at one time- but you&#039;re wrong.

This, from 1/27/05 Daily Kos, written by Kos himself:

&quot;Republicans love [Lieberman] for the same reason that Democrats love McCain -- because they both spend a great deal of the time beating up publicly on their own party.  But for that reason, especially given our minority status (when the party needs to stick together for survival), Lieberman must go. I don&#039;t want another six years of him bashing Democrats on Fox News next to a fawning Sean Hannity.&quot;

Here&#039;s the link:  http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/27/124818/547</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MA-  way back when in this thread, you argued that Kos was a moderate who didn&#8217;t view Lieberman (an 83% ACU voting record as a liberal) as a Republican.  You said Kos liked Liberman.  He may have at one time- but you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p>This, from 1/27/05 Daily Kos, written by Kos himself:</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans love [Lieberman] for the same reason that Democrats love McCain &#8212; because they both spend a great deal of the time beating up publicly on their own party.  But for that reason, especially given our minority status (when the party needs to stick together for survival), Lieberman must go. I don&#8217;t want another six years of him bashing Democrats on Fox News next to a fawning Sean Hannity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/27/124818/547" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/27/124818/547</a></p>
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