Comments on: A Big Hit To The Department Of Homeland Security http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:46:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ldh http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-12187 ldh Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:54:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-12187 Hello everybody, I want to make friend with you. Nice to meet you. Hello everybody, I want to make friend with you. Nice to meet you.

]]> By: Marty http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11755 Marty Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:37:28 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11755 This guy is also the same DHS mouthpiece who came to the rescue of the air marshalls who murdered Rigoberto Alpizar in Dec of 2005 in a jetway at Miami International Airport. I guess Doyle's karma is catching up with him. This guy is also the same DHS mouthpiece who came to the rescue of the air marshalls who murdered
Rigoberto Alpizar in Dec of 2005 in a jetway at Miami International Airport.

I guess Doyle’s karma is catching up with him.

]]> By: GN http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11294 GN Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:47:37 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11294 Pedophelia is a scourge .... you cannot ever justify pedophiles by saying they are sick ... if they are sick and a control can be found through psychiatry or medical research so be it .... in the meantime classify them for what they are .... Predators ... just as surely as a wild cat, snake, or any other animal in the food chain, and hust as surely as any virus or plague. The way the human race hs dealt with unknown viruses in the past is through quarantine. That is what we should do with pedophiles ... they don't belong in society. I can't speak with authority about the pathology of pedophelia so I will not try. I can speak with authority about quarantine as a current solution. I know that some will start talking about their legal rights .... talk away ... and if you believe that these predators should have the same rights as the rest of us ... put your money where your mouths are ... mvolunteer to let them live in your community, next to your house, near your kids' school. They are an abberation to society in the same vein as a serial killer. The only answer RIGHT NOW is interrment. That is the end of my rant. I feel better. Pedophelia is a scourge …. you cannot ever justify pedophiles by saying they are sick … if they are sick and a control can be found through psychiatry or medical research so be it …. in the meantime classify them for what they are …. Predators … just as surely as a wild cat, snake, or any other animal in the food chain, and hust as surely as any virus or plague. The way the human race hs dealt with unknown viruses in the past is through quarantine. That is what we should do with pedophiles … they don’t belong in society.

I can’t speak with authority about the pathology of pedophelia so I will not try. I can speak with authority about quarantine as a current solution. I know that some will start talking about their legal rights …. talk away … and if you believe that these predators should have the same rights as the rest of us … put your money where your mouths are … mvolunteer to let them live in your community, next to your house, near your kids’ school. They are an abberation to society in the same vein as a serial killer. The only answer RIGHT NOW is interrment.

That is the end of my rant. I feel better.

]]> By: Meredith http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11269 Meredith Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:13:23 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11269 Silver, I know there are no KNOWN treatment for pedophilia. Cutting off a man's balls is not going to cure a potentially psychological problem. Just like antisocial personality disorder, the psychiatric community is stumped about pedophilia, but I believe there are answers out there if we spend more resources on finding them. In the meantime, however, I cannot disagree with the fact that they need to be kept off the streets until we can do something else. I know that people get all worked up when you compare pedophilia to homosexuality. I am not equating them in "that way." I am simply suggesting the possibility that they may share the same etiology, i.e. organic brain disorders. Just as with homosexuality, there is a question of nurture vs. nature. I am not excited for people to be able to claim that pedophilia is just another lifestyle choice, but none of us are responsible for the claims people will make. I do think that we need to be open to the possibilities, even if the consequences may be unsavory, so that we can find out the truth about what causes (and cures) pedophilia. Silver,
I know there are no KNOWN treatment for pedophilia. Cutting off a man’s balls is not going to cure a potentially psychological problem. Just like antisocial personality disorder, the psychiatric community is stumped about pedophilia, but I believe there are answers out there if we spend more resources on finding them. In the meantime, however, I cannot disagree with the fact that they need to be kept off the streets until we can do something else.

I know that people get all worked up when you compare pedophilia to homosexuality. I am not equating them in “that way.” I am simply suggesting the possibility that they may share the same etiology, i.e. organic brain disorders. Just as with homosexuality, there is a question of nurture vs. nature. I am not excited for people to be able to claim that pedophilia is just another lifestyle choice, but none of us are responsible for the claims people will make. I do think that we need to be open to the possibilities, even if the consequences may be unsavory, so that we can find out the truth about what causes (and cures) pedophilia.

]]> By: SilverSeraphim http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11263 SilverSeraphim Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:48:44 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11263 The problem, Meredith, is that there isn't any effective treatments for pedophilia. Even physical castration isn't always effective. And pedophiles have the highest recidivism rate of any criminal class. The fact is that most of them are smart enough not to get caught, or if they do, they know how to manipulate the system. And do not equate pedophilia to homosexuality. Homosexuality does not have vicitms, it does not abuse. Pedophilia is closer to sociopathy; to suggest it be classed like homosexuality would be it a step closer to being more mainstream and an "acceptable" alternative lifestyle. The problem, Meredith, is that there isn’t any effective treatments for pedophilia. Even physical castration isn’t always effective. And pedophiles have the highest recidivism rate of any criminal class. The fact is that most of them are smart enough not to get caught, or if they do, they know how to manipulate the system.

And do not equate pedophilia to homosexuality. Homosexuality does not have vicitms, it does not abuse. Pedophilia is closer to sociopathy; to suggest it be classed like homosexuality would be it a step closer to being more mainstream and an “acceptable” alternative lifestyle.

]]> By: Meredith http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11262 Meredith Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:40:38 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11262 This is "sad" I guess, but I think everyone needs to remember that pedophiles are all over the place. They are male and female, and they are all ages, races, religions, etc. There are poor ones and rich ones. A recent "bust" of an internet child-porn cite by the Feds in my city revealed that the cite had hundreds of thousands of subscribers. This is a very widespread problem. And, stupidity is not the only reason this man was caught. Most likely, it was the fact that he could not (or would not) control his impulse, coupled with self-destructive tendencies. I know this will not be a popular comment, but we need to stop making fun of and/or fearing these people if we want to make kids safer. This could be a psychological problem, or it might be similar to homosexuality, in that we used to think it was a psychological problem, but now some believe that you are just born that way, that your brain is different, and you don't have a choice. In any event, if we really want to solve this issue, it needs to be studied, and we need to come up with treatments that work. We can throw people in jail and do "sting operations" all we want, but that will not change the fact that a fairly significant percent of people on this planet are pedophiles. By the way, a federal judge in my city overturned a conviction that was procured by having a police person pose as an underage kid. Reason being - the statute requires that the person have interactions with someone who is 14 or younger (or whatever the age is), and in actuallity, the cop is not. I can't remember if the judge said this prevented intent from being formed, or whether he said that in that case the act was not actually committed. This is going up on appeal, but my guess is there will be more challenges of this type to those kinds of "stings." This is “sad” I guess, but I think everyone needs to remember that pedophiles are all over the place. They are male and female, and they are all ages, races, religions, etc. There are poor ones and rich ones. A recent “bust” of an internet child-porn cite by the Feds in my city revealed that the cite had hundreds of thousands of subscribers. This is a very widespread problem.

And, stupidity is not the only reason this man was caught. Most likely, it was the fact that he could not (or would not) control his impulse, coupled with self-destructive tendencies. I know this will not be a popular comment, but we need to stop making fun of and/or fearing these people if we want to make kids safer. This could be a psychological problem, or it might be similar to homosexuality, in that we used to think it was a psychological problem, but now some believe that you are just born that way, that your brain is different, and you don’t have a choice. In any event, if we really want to solve this issue, it needs to be studied, and we need to come up with treatments that work. We can throw people in jail and do “sting operations” all we want, but that will not change the fact that a fairly significant percent of people on this planet are pedophiles.

By the way, a federal judge in my city overturned a conviction that was procured by having a police person pose as an underage kid. Reason being – the statute requires that the person have interactions with someone who is 14 or younger (or whatever the age is), and in actuallity, the cop is not. I can’t remember if the judge said this prevented intent from being formed, or whether he said that in that case the act was not actually committed. This is going up on appeal, but my guess is there will be more challenges of this type to those kinds of “stings.”

]]> By: GN http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11243 GN Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:11:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11243 What can you say about this guy, Justin? If he wasn't a professional civil servant, he probably would have been a Priest! At least there is no Cardinal involved to hide him in another office. What can you say about this guy, Justin? If he wasn’t a professional civil servant, he probably would have been a Priest! At least there is no Cardinal involved to hide him in another office.

]]> By: Kevin http://donklephant.com/2006/04/05/a-big-hit-to-the-department-of-homeland-security/comment-page-1/#comment-11224 Kevin Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:04:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2073#comment-11224 I was going to write something about how stupid this guy is, then I thought about it. I wish all the perverts trying solicit children were this stupid. I'd feel safer for my kids. Good job by the cops, although I would have liked to see them get his credit card info too, on general principle. I was going to write something about how stupid this guy is, then I thought about it. I wish all the perverts trying solicit children were this stupid. I’d feel safer for my kids. Good job by the cops, although I would have liked to see them get his credit card info too, on general principle.

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