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	<title>Comments on: The Upsides Of Nuclear Energy</title>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-716133</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iam all for nuclear power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iam all for nuclear power.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nuclear Power Backed By U.N.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-318437</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nuclear Power Backed By U.N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been posting about the benefits of nuclear power for some time now, and today I read a story about U.N. scientists proposing that we embrace nuclear power as a way to combat global warming. Not only that, we&#8217;re talking about cleaner air and cheaper energy for all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been posting about the benefits of nuclear power for some time now, and today I read a story about U.N. scientists proposing that we embrace nuclear power as a way to combat global warming. Not only that, we&#8217;re talking about cleaner air and cheaper energy for all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-14711</link>
		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main problem with nuclear is that we have yet to finalize the question of what to do with the waste.  If and when we finally push through and start to use a secure final resting place for spent nuclear fuel, then I will support new nuclear initiatives.  Until and unless that point is reached, nuclear is not a viable option.

New technology can certainly make new nuclear plants more efficient, safer, and also reduce the amount of radioactive waste they create.  In addition, the points above about the massive amounts of carbon dioxide emissions these plants can delete are quite valid, and very necessary.

Oil and natural gas MUST be phased out as power sources, as world oil production has peaked, while China and the third world&#039;s demand is skyrocketing.  Promoting coal as an alternative blindly ignores the massive evidence of global warming, and those promoting it are merely attempting to keep control in the hands of Big Oil/Energy, since they own most coal production (and politicians).

However, I believe that total reliance on nuclear is the wrong way to go, as solar and wind power are becoming more and more feasible, and with even marginal investment could start taking over portions of our energy needs within a few years.  A study on wind power alone showed it has the potential generative capacity to meet the ENTIRE WORLD&#039;s energy needs, and new research on solar is suggesting that panels can be made much more cheaply than current ones which yield multiple times the energy per unit area.  

Energy efficiency is of course the holy grail of the whole issue, since by allowing us all the gizmos and vehicles we want, but at a 30% higher efficiency, we avoid any significant political or economic risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main problem with nuclear is that we have yet to finalize the question of what to do with the waste.  If and when we finally push through and start to use a secure final resting place for spent nuclear fuel, then I will support new nuclear initiatives.  Until and unless that point is reached, nuclear is not a viable option.</p>
<p>New technology can certainly make new nuclear plants more efficient, safer, and also reduce the amount of radioactive waste they create.  In addition, the points above about the massive amounts of carbon dioxide emissions these plants can delete are quite valid, and very necessary.</p>
<p>Oil and natural gas MUST be phased out as power sources, as world oil production has peaked, while China and the third world&#8217;s demand is skyrocketing.  Promoting coal as an alternative blindly ignores the massive evidence of global warming, and those promoting it are merely attempting to keep control in the hands of Big Oil/Energy, since they own most coal production (and politicians).</p>
<p>However, I believe that total reliance on nuclear is the wrong way to go, as solar and wind power are becoming more and more feasible, and with even marginal investment could start taking over portions of our energy needs within a few years.  A study on wind power alone showed it has the potential generative capacity to meet the ENTIRE WORLD&#8217;s energy needs, and new research on solar is suggesting that panels can be made much more cheaply than current ones which yield multiple times the energy per unit area.  </p>
<p>Energy efficiency is of course the holy grail of the whole issue, since by allowing us all the gizmos and vehicles we want, but at a 30% higher efficiency, we avoid any significant political or economic risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13942</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, as someone who&#039;s lived within 10 miles of the thing for the past 16 years (and who drove past it the weekend of the crisis), I&#039;ve never seen the sky here that red. That&#039;s not a Pennsylvania sky. That&#039;s a Key West sunset, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, as someone who&#8217;s lived within 10 miles of the thing for the past 16 years (and who drove past it the weekend of the crisis), I&#8217;ve never seen the sky here that red. That&#8217;s not a Pennsylvania sky. That&#8217;s a Key West sunset, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about nuclear energy, but the only way I&#039;d agree to more nuclear power plants is to have them spend the same amount on solar and/or wind.  Which both produce no emissions or waste products, at least none I&#039;m aware of.  I live in the sunbelt, why we don&#039;t have solar farms here on top of all the flat roofed buildings is beyond me.  But I agree getting rid of coal fired plants would be a fantastic start to cleaning up the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about nuclear energy, but the only way I&#8217;d agree to more nuclear power plants is to have them spend the same amount on solar and/or wind.  Which both produce no emissions or waste products, at least none I&#8217;m aware of.  I live in the sunbelt, why we don&#8217;t have solar farms here on top of all the flat roofed buildings is beyond me.  But I agree getting rid of coal fired plants would be a fantastic start to cleaning up the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Strong</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13856</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, it&#039;s amazing how many people are buying this &quot;co-founder of Greenpeace&quot;schtick.

Moore left Greenpeace over two decades ago, and has moved strongly rightwards on environmental policy ever since. He supports clear-cutting, bioengineered foods, and is skeptical about controlling carbon emissions. He is, to be brief, not what most people consider to be an &quot;environmentalist&quot;.

See his website, www.greenspirit.com.

Now, I happen to think he&#039;s right about nuclear energy, though less so on the other stuff. But this is not the equivalent of, say, Cindy Sheehan supporting the use of bunker-busters in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, it&#8217;s amazing how many people are buying this &#8220;co-founder of Greenpeace&#8221;schtick.</p>
<p>Moore left Greenpeace over two decades ago, and has moved strongly rightwards on environmental policy ever since. He supports clear-cutting, bioengineered foods, and is skeptical about controlling carbon emissions. He is, to be brief, not what most people consider to be an &#8220;environmentalist&#8221;.</p>
<p>See his website, <a href="http://www.greenspirit.com" >http://www.greenspirit.com</a>.</p>
<p>Now, I happen to think he&#8217;s right about nuclear energy, though less so on the other stuff. But this is not the equivalent of, say, Cindy Sheehan supporting the use of bunker-busters in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13738</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

All of us in the domestic power and equipment supplier business would love to see nukes come back.  We were decimated in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s.  This was made worse when at the same time we stopped building refineries and chemical plants in the US.  A lot of high paying jobs - engineers and skilled trades - just went up in smoke.

Many US companies would jump back in but there would have to be evidence of solid public support.  A shift in the environmentalist position is a good start.

Funny thing, the US Navy is a great place to find nuclear technology talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>All of us in the domestic power and equipment supplier business would love to see nukes come back.  We were decimated in the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s.  This was made worse when at the same time we stopped building refineries and chemical plants in the US.  A lot of high paying jobs &#8211; engineers and skilled trades &#8211; just went up in smoke.</p>
<p>Many US companies would jump back in but there would have to be evidence of solid public support.  A shift in the environmentalist position is a good start.</p>
<p>Funny thing, the US Navy is a great place to find nuclear technology talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis:

There&#039;s a lot of experienced people in other countries -- France for instance.  Could we not import some talent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of experienced people in other countries &#8212; France for instance.  Could we not import some talent?</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13695</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only &#039;three mile island&#039; I want is my buffalo wings!  Seriously--if it can be done safely, it&#039;s advantageous for many reasons, including those listed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8216;three mile island&#8217; I want is my buffalo wings!  Seriously&#8211;if it can be done safely, it&#8217;s advantageous for many reasons, including those listed here.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an engineer involved in the power generation industry, I can tell you the biggest obstacle to nukes is financial.  The financial risk to a utility to invest billions and 10 years plus to generate the first penny of revenue is what killed nukes in the US.  Several utilities are still paying on debt for nuke plants that were never finished.

Coal fired plants and large natural gas fired turbines are just the opposite.  That&#039;s why there are so many new ones being built today.

Another problem - when the nuclear industry went belly up, so did many of the suppliers of valves, pipe and pressure vessels.  Not to mention the intellectual talent, the big engineering contractors and nuclear engineers.  Existing nuke plants are already concerned about filling all the positions soon to be vacant due to retirements.

Not to say it&#039;s a bad idea, but it could well be a decade or two before you see a totally new nuke plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer involved in the power generation industry, I can tell you the biggest obstacle to nukes is financial.  The financial risk to a utility to invest billions and 10 years plus to generate the first penny of revenue is what killed nukes in the US.  Several utilities are still paying on debt for nuke plants that were never finished.</p>
<p>Coal fired plants and large natural gas fired turbines are just the opposite.  That&#8217;s why there are so many new ones being built today.</p>
<p>Another problem &#8211; when the nuclear industry went belly up, so did many of the suppliers of valves, pipe and pressure vessels.  Not to mention the intellectual talent, the big engineering contractors and nuclear engineers.  Existing nuke plants are already concerned about filling all the positions soon to be vacant due to retirements.</p>
<p>Not to say it&#8217;s a bad idea, but it could well be a decade or two before you see a totally new nuke plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Aman</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/04/16/the-upsides-of-nuclear-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-13635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, of course, is why Toshiba (yes, the same guys who make your laptops) bought Westinghouse Electric Company a few years ago from British Nuclear Fuels (who had previously acquired it from CBS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, of course, is why Toshiba (yes, the same guys who make your laptops) bought Westinghouse Electric Company a few years ago from British Nuclear Fuels (who had previously acquired it from CBS).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to hear more rational thought on nuclear energy being expressed by people with some credibility with environmentalists. Now if only more of them can get out of the knee-jerk reactions that have been inculcated for far too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to hear more rational thought on nuclear energy being expressed by people with some credibility with environmentalists. Now if only more of them can get out of the knee-jerk reactions that have been inculcated for far too long.</p>
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