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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20858</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pray every day that our leaders make more sensible decisions.  He&#039;s right, I think we all do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pray every day that our leaders make more sensible decisions.  He&#8217;s right, I think we all do.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20832</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 03:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be president and never set foot in a church&quot; was not a statement about presidential decision-making. It was a statement about the reality of daily life of the majority of average folks in America. It was a statement about how you get to be president, not what you should do when you&#039;re there. I am beginning to suspect you never spent much serious time here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be president and never set foot in a church&#8221; was not a statement about presidential decision-making. It was a statement about the reality of daily life of the majority of average folks in America. It was a statement about how you get to be president, not what you should do when you&#8217;re there. I am beginning to suspect you never spent much serious time here.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20828</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 00:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cal,  I was not putting words in your mouth - the quote inspred the thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal,  I was not putting words in your mouth &#8211; the quote inspred the thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20827</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 00:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be president and never set foot in a church. &quot;

How would building a consecrated meeting room, (&quot;prayer room&quot; ? chapel?) next door to the Oval Office go down...  for the purposes of direct consultations you understand?

Sorry,  but I can not accept that dependence upon divine interventions will ever make for good and proper governance of a nation.

Have a day of prayer by all means.  The President can join in if he wishes,  no problem with that.

But making decisions in the belief that they are divinely inspired,  or that they will become so as the result of divine intervention, is beyond just plain dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You canÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be president and never set foot in a church. &#8221;</p>
<p>How would building a consecrated meeting room, (&#8220;prayer room&#8221; ? chapel?) next door to the Oval Office go down&#8230;  for the purposes of direct consultations you understand?</p>
<p>Sorry,  but I can not accept that dependence upon divine interventions will ever make for good and proper governance of a nation.</p>
<p>Have a day of prayer by all means.  The President can join in if he wishes,  no problem with that.</p>
<p>But making decisions in the belief that they are divinely inspired,  or that they will become so as the result of divine intervention, is beyond just plain dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20756</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 08:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me the longest time to understand this, since I seem to be very deficient in the gift of spirituality, but even many politicians really do have sincere religious convictions. Democrats, Republicans, and independents. Even if they manage to keep them mostly clear of their political activity, it&#039;s impossible to simply avoid ever mentioning the topic for four years. Americans are a churchy people. You can&#039;t be president and never set foot in a church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me the longest time to understand this, since I seem to be very deficient in the gift of spirituality, but even many politicians really do have sincere religious convictions. Democrats, Republicans, and independents. Even if they manage to keep them mostly clear of their political activity, it&#8217;s impossible to simply avoid ever mentioning the topic for four years. Americans are a churchy people. You can&#8217;t be president and never set foot in a church.</p>
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		<title>By: Pooh</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-2/#comment-20748</link>
		<dc:creator>Pooh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 05:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fair question Cal. I have to admit that it is &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; President to the extent that I feel that his religiousity affects his decision making process - the perception of certitude has been much commented on, I feel. By contrast, I think a simialr statement from Clinton would bother me, but only because of the obvious hypocrisy and pandering involved. If that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fair question Cal. I have to admit that it is <i>this</i> President to the extent that I feel that his religiousity affects his decision making process &#8211; the perception of certitude has been much commented on, I feel. By contrast, I think a simialr statement from Clinton would bother me, but only because of the obvious hypocrisy and pandering involved. If that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 04:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cal asks:

&quot;So is it about &#039;prayer&#039; or is it about &#039;this president&#039;? If a President Al Gore/Jesse Jackson/Tony Blair/John McCain/Hillary Clinton said the same thing (as he/she undoubtedly would on this occasion), would the same minds be perspiring over it?&quot;

Well, considering that I was just as bothered by Clinton&#039;s declarations, I can honestly say that my dislike for the president has nothing to do with this.  (My dislike for him rears its head in all sorts of other places, but not here.)  Frankly, I&#039;d be more irate depending on who was making the declaration.  If it were Pres. Dean, I&#039;d see it as shameless pandering with nothing behind it, and Pres. Jackson would bother me since it would be a minister of another denomination telling me what to do with my spiritual life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal asks:</p>
<p>&#8220;So is it about &#8216;prayer&#8217; or is it about &#8216;this president&#8217;? If a President Al Gore/Jesse Jackson/Tony Blair/John McCain/Hillary Clinton said the same thing (as he/she undoubtedly would on this occasion), would the same minds be perspiring over it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, considering that I was just as bothered by Clinton&#8217;s declarations, I can honestly say that my dislike for the president has nothing to do with this.  (My dislike for him rears its head in all sorts of other places, but not here.)  Frankly, I&#8217;d be more irate depending on who was making the declaration.  If it were Pres. Dean, I&#8217;d see it as shameless pandering with nothing behind it, and Pres. Jackson would bother me since it would be a minister of another denomination telling me what to do with my spiritual life.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20729</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it about &quot;prayer&quot; or is it about &quot;this president&quot;? If a President Al Gore/Jesse Jackson/Tony Blair/John McCain/Hillary Clinton said the same thing (as he/she undoubtedly would on this occasion), would the same minds be perspiring over it?

Far as I&#039;m concerned, prayer in public is like sex in public: as long as it doesn&#039;t scare the horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it about &#8220;prayer&#8221; or is it about &#8220;this president&#8221;? If a President Al Gore/Jesse Jackson/Tony Blair/John McCain/Hillary Clinton said the same thing (as he/she undoubtedly would on this occasion), would the same minds be perspiring over it?</p>
<p>Far as I&#8217;m concerned, prayer in public is like sex in public: as long as it doesn&#8217;t scare the horses.</p>
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		<title>By: Pooh</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20717</link>
		<dc:creator>Pooh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 22:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as backlash goes, I think the ship has sailed as to the discomfort over the President&#039;s rather in-your-face religiousity. Or to put it another way, I doubt this is the last straw for anyone who&#039;s been paying much attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as backlash goes, I think the ship has sailed as to the discomfort over the President&#8217;s rather in-your-face religiousity. Or to put it another way, I doubt this is the last straw for anyone who&#8217;s been paying much attention.</p>
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		<title>By: reader_iam</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20715</link>
		<dc:creator>reader_iam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as backlash, I honestly don&#039;t think enough people notice or care enough about these sort of designations to get worked up sufficiently to create such thing. I&#039;m not commenting as to whether they should or shouldn&#039;t; I&#039;m just speculating that there&#039;s no critical mass here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as backlash, I honestly don&#8217;t think enough people notice or care enough about these sort of designations to get worked up sufficiently to create such thing. I&#8217;m not commenting as to whether they should or shouldn&#8217;t; I&#8217;m just speculating that there&#8217;s no critical mass here.</p>
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		<title>By: reader_iam</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20714</link>
		<dc:creator>reader_iam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, there was absolutely no way for me to resist that one.

I tend to ignore &quot;National Days of Whatever.&quot; If something&#039;s important to me, for whatever reason or reasons, then I don&#039;t need a special day for it. If it isn&#039;t, I just let the day sail on by. It each his or her own. Different strokes. Etc.

From my perspective as a believer, Tim&#039;s quote from the Bible nails it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, there was absolutely no way for me to resist that one.</p>
<p>I tend to ignore &#8220;National Days of Whatever.&#8221; If something&#8217;s important to me, for whatever reason or reasons, then I don&#8217;t need a special day for it. If it isn&#8217;t, I just let the day sail on by. It each his or her own. Different strokes. Etc.</p>
<p>From my perspective as a believer, Tim&#8217;s quote from the Bible nails it.</p>
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		<title>By: reader_iam</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20712</link>
		<dc:creator>reader_iam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 21:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;In America, we are free to profess any faith we choose, or no faith at all.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, Thank God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;In America, we are free to profess any faith we choose, or no faith at all.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, Thank God!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20710</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say that I didn&#039;t like prayer.  I said that I don&#039;t understand why there needs to be a national day for it.  My initial question should have been phrased better:  &quot;For those who pray, are you bothered by an official day of prayer?&quot;  

I pray, but I don&#039;t see what&#039;s so big about the first Thursday in May to have the government encourage people to pray. My faith is strong enough that I don&#039;t need to have a presidential proclaimation to validate my behavior.  Frankly, as long as I&#039;ve known of the national day of prayer, I&#039;ve found it a little patronizing.

What I am &quot;riled up&quot; about is the evangelical community claiming that since the National Day of Prayer exists, they&#039;re the ones that get to call the shots on it.  Christianity is larger than the evangelical community, and people other than Christians pray. I&#039;m upset that the requirements for NDP volunteers and coordinators include &quot;A volunteer must be an evangelical Christian who has a personal relationship with Christ&quot; and &quot;I acknowledge that I am working for the Lord Jesus Christ and the furthering of His Work on earth.&quot;  And I&#039;m really bothered that the government keeps on endorsing this despite the fact that every year, the inclusive nature is frayed just a bit more and it becomes more difficult to see where the National Day of Prayer ends and James and Shirley Dobson&#039;s National Day of Prayer Task Force begins.

If the evangelical Protestant community wants to have a national day of prayer, they&#039;ve got every right.  If they want it to be exclusive to their ultra-narrow definition of Christian, that&#039;s their right too.  But don&#039;t expect my government to endorse it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say that I didn&#8217;t like prayer.  I said that I don&#8217;t understand why there needs to be a national day for it.  My initial question should have been phrased better:  &#8220;For those who pray, are you bothered by an official day of prayer?&#8221;  </p>
<p>I pray, but I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s so big about the first Thursday in May to have the government encourage people to pray. My faith is strong enough that I don&#8217;t need to have a presidential proclaimation to validate my behavior.  Frankly, as long as I&#8217;ve known of the national day of prayer, I&#8217;ve found it a little patronizing.</p>
<p>What I am &#8220;riled up&#8221; about is the evangelical community claiming that since the National Day of Prayer exists, they&#8217;re the ones that get to call the shots on it.  Christianity is larger than the evangelical community, and people other than Christians pray. I&#8217;m upset that the requirements for NDP volunteers and coordinators include &#8220;A volunteer must be an evangelical Christian who has a personal relationship with Christ&#8221; and &#8220;I acknowledge that I am working for the Lord Jesus Christ and the furthering of His Work on earth.&#8221;  And I&#8217;m really bothered that the government keeps on endorsing this despite the fact that every year, the inclusive nature is frayed just a bit more and it becomes more difficult to see where the National Day of Prayer ends and James and Shirley Dobson&#8217;s National Day of Prayer Task Force begins.</p>
<p>If the evangelical Protestant community wants to have a national day of prayer, they&#8217;ve got every right.  If they want it to be exclusive to their ultra-narrow definition of Christian, that&#8217;s their right too.  But don&#8217;t expect my government to endorse it.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20705</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

LOL!!!!  Come on Dos, it&#039;s hilarious.  If he&#039;s goin&#039; to hell, I want to go too.  We can start up a comedy club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>LOL!!!!  Come on Dos, it&#8217;s hilarious.  If he&#8217;s goin&#8217; to hell, I want to go too.  We can start up a comedy club.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20702</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To me itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s as if the President announced a national day of spellcasting or voodoo doll stabbing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re going to be the real funny boy...in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To me itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s as if the President announced a national day of spellcasting or voodoo doll stabbing.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re going to be the real funny boy&#8230;in hell.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20701</link>
		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica:
Speaking for myself I&#039;m certainly not riled.  To me it&#039;s as if the President announced a national day of spellcasting or voodoo doll stabbing.  I&#039;m just bemused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica:<br />
Speaking for myself I&#8217;m certainly not riled.  To me it&#8217;s as if the President announced a national day of spellcasting or voodoo doll stabbing.  I&#8217;m just bemused.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20696</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what the big deal is.  It&#039;s not like it&#039;s mandated in some way.  Honestly, I find it weird for people to be riled up about it.  Maybe it satisfies some &#039;Rage against the machine&#039; type need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the big deal is.  It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s mandated in some way.  Honestly, I find it weird for people to be riled up about it.  Maybe it satisfies some &#8216;Rage against the machine&#8217; type need?</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20695</link>
		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dos:
That would be excellent.  I&#039;ll help with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dos:<br />
That would be excellent.  I&#8217;ll help with that.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20692</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be a &quot;prayer backlash&quot;?  -- National Profanity &amp; Blasphemy Day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be a &#8220;prayer backlash&#8221;?  &#8212; National Profanity &amp; Blasphemy Day?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/05/quote-of-note-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20688</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m telling you, there will be an inevitable backlash because Americans don&#039;t want the government telling them what to do. And that&#039;s even if they AGREE with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m telling you, there will be an inevitable backlash because Americans don&#8217;t want the government telling them what to do. And that&#8217;s even if they AGREE with it.</p>
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