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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: ÃƒÂ©Ã‚Â²Ã…â€œÃƒÂ¨Ã…Â Ã‚Â±</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/11/the-united-states-of-surveillance/comment-page-1/#comment-276840</link>
		<dc:creator>ÃƒÂ©Ã‚Â²Ã…â€œÃƒÂ¨Ã…Â Ã‚Â±</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article makes sense extremely, I supports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article makes sense extremely, I supports</p>
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		<title>By: Purifier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purifier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Hong Kong and other parts of China for a few months, and I didn&#039;t have any officals following after me. If you are news reporter, that might be. But I feel pretty safe anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Hong Kong and other parts of China for a few months, and I didn&#8217;t have any officals following after me. If you are news reporter, that might be. But I feel pretty safe anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/11/the-united-states-of-surveillance/comment-page-1/#comment-21394</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 18:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good investigative journalism (like border security, environmental safeguards, health care, etc) is something that each citizen needs.  And as such, the free market is not equipped to regulate it.

Network news, 24-hr cable news, &amp; major newspapers are all profit-driven &amp; therefore don&#039;t act in the public interest.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, i&#039;m not advocating for a gov&#039;t takeover of the media - but until we can figure out a way to remove the profit motive from journalism, we will not be a well served citizenry &amp; will continue to be fear-bated (&quot;don&#039;t let your child be the next victim&quot;, &quot;women, you can&#039;t afford to miss this report&quot;, &quot;could it happen in your neighborhood? - tune in at 10pm&quot;, etc)

Fear enduces emotional rather than logical responses &amp; therefore will always work to our detriment.  Anyone who hasn&#039;t seen &quot;Bowling For Columbine&quot; - i urge you to see it.  It opened my eyes.

Instead of fearing terrorism &amp; reducing our freedoms &amp; liberties, we should be working to reduce the demand for terrorist acts.  Just like the failed &quot;war on drugs&quot; - focusing solely on stopping supply will not work.  Let&#039;s learn that lesson from our past failure &amp; apply it to this &quot;war on terrorism&quot; before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good investigative journalism (like border security, environmental safeguards, health care, etc) is something that each citizen needs.  And as such, the free market is not equipped to regulate it.</p>
<p>Network news, 24-hr cable news, &amp; major newspapers are all profit-driven &amp; therefore don&#8217;t act in the public interest.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, i&#8217;m not advocating for a gov&#8217;t takeover of the media &#8211; but until we can figure out a way to remove the profit motive from journalism, we will not be a well served citizenry &amp; will continue to be fear-bated (&#8220;don&#8217;t let your child be the next victim&#8221;, &#8220;women, you can&#8217;t afford to miss this report&#8221;, &#8220;could it happen in your neighborhood? &#8211; tune in at 10pm&#8221;, etc)</p>
<p>Fear enduces emotional rather than logical responses &amp; therefore will always work to our detriment.  Anyone who hasn&#8217;t seen &#8220;Bowling For Columbine&#8221; &#8211; i urge you to see it.  It opened my eyes.</p>
<p>Instead of fearing terrorism &amp; reducing our freedoms &amp; liberties, we should be working to reduce the demand for terrorist acts.  Just like the failed &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; &#8211; focusing solely on stopping supply will not work.  Let&#8217;s learn that lesson from our past failure &amp; apply it to this &#8220;war on terrorism&#8221; before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Brinkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Brinkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP: The date on this article is probably going to guarantee you never see this, but here goes:

Your phrasing implies you don&#039;t think news from Bush and Cheney is objective.  What, then, do you consider objective?

If you say MSM, then I&#039;d have to force you to be more specific, as MSM covers a lot of things.

If you say AP, or NYT, or WaPo, or WSJ, or FoxNews, or any other single outlet, we could debate the objectivity of any of these until we lost interest without consensus, as each is represented by many individuals, from reporters to editors.  Generally, the more specific we get, the better a case we could make one way or the other for objectivity.  In the end, we&#039;d have a complex landscape of shysters, honest witnesses, layabouts, cowards, heroes, demagogues, thinktankers, and scholars.

Which seems to put us right back at the start.  Given a huge array of information of varying verisimilitude from sources of varying repute, I&#039;m inclined to throw up my hands to some extent and rely on a general read - but your personal filters and mine may cause each of us to come up with very different general reads.  It&#039;s a chaotic system, mathematically speaking; final outcome is sensitively dependent upon our initial conditions.

And once again, right now, I&#039;m still much less inclined to worry about someone who says he wants to check my phone records (which the phone company has anyway) than someone who says he wants to blow me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP: The date on this article is probably going to guarantee you never see this, but here goes:</p>
<p>Your phrasing implies you don&#8217;t think news from Bush and Cheney is objective.  What, then, do you consider objective?</p>
<p>If you say MSM, then I&#8217;d have to force you to be more specific, as MSM covers a lot of things.</p>
<p>If you say AP, or NYT, or WaPo, or WSJ, or FoxNews, or any other single outlet, we could debate the objectivity of any of these until we lost interest without consensus, as each is represented by many individuals, from reporters to editors.  Generally, the more specific we get, the better a case we could make one way or the other for objectivity.  In the end, we&#8217;d have a complex landscape of shysters, honest witnesses, layabouts, cowards, heroes, demagogues, thinktankers, and scholars.</p>
<p>Which seems to put us right back at the start.  Given a huge array of information of varying verisimilitude from sources of varying repute, I&#8217;m inclined to throw up my hands to some extent and rely on a general read &#8211; but your personal filters and mine may cause each of us to come up with very different general reads.  It&#8217;s a chaotic system, mathematically speaking; final outcome is sensitively dependent upon our initial conditions.</p>
<p>And once again, right now, I&#8217;m still much less inclined to worry about someone who says he wants to check my phone records (which the phone company has anyway) than someone who says he wants to blow me up.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 20:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you. I want to be protected but not at the expense of innocent people&#039;s privacy. I had no problem when it was just the suspect and the individual being monitored but when it is monitoring innocent citizens calls who have done nothing wrong and have no intention to, it is something to be concerned with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you. I want to be protected but not at the expense of innocent people&#8217;s privacy. I had no problem when it was just the suspect and the individual being monitored but when it is monitoring innocent citizens calls who have done nothing wrong and have no intention to, it is something to be concerned with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 04:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The NSA Code&lt;/strong&gt;

The NSA contends that they are simply looking for &quot;patterns&quot; in the massive database of telephone numbers they have collected. In fact, the kinds of patterns NSA analysts are looking for may be the key to winning the War on Terror.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The NSA Code</strong></p>
<p>The NSA contends that they are simply looking for &#8220;patterns&#8221; in the massive database of telephone numbers they have collected. In fact, the kinds of patterns NSA analysts are looking for may be the key to winning the War on Terror.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 02:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Paul, how much of this fear is warranted?  I mean objectively, not according to Bush and Cheney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Paul, how much of this fear is warranted?  I mean objectively, not according to Bush and Cheney?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Brinkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Brinkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 21:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The goal of terror is to basically scare the bejeezsus out of a society and make them paranoid. More and more I think that this administration is acting out of fear instead of using their head. They think that the can just give a little bit of our freedoms in order to save America. But in the end, they are weaking on nation because they are fearful.&quot;

The trouble I have, which is the trouble I&#039;ve had for years and years now, is that I could say the exact same thing about the press.  Gee, I can be fearful of terrorist activity, or I could be fearful of my government.  In some sense, it&#039;s a wash - so my gut says fearing terrorists is still wiser for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The goal of terror is to basically scare the bejeezsus out of a society and make them paranoid. More and more I think that this administration is acting out of fear instead of using their head. They think that the can just give a little bit of our freedoms in order to save America. But in the end, they are weaking on nation because they are fearful.&#8221;</p>
<p>The trouble I have, which is the trouble I&#8217;ve had for years and years now, is that I could say the exact same thing about the press.  Gee, I can be fearful of terrorist activity, or I could be fearful of my government.  In some sense, it&#8217;s a wash &#8211; so my gut says fearing terrorists is still wiser for the time being.</p>
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