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		<title>By: Brian in MA</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33778</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with McCain for several reasons and am still trying to figure the guy out. With all his pandering and media love I suspect him to be a closet liberal and I won&#039;t be electing any of that into office. Hillary is equally duplicitous and I believe they are the same stripe: Kiss any ass to win an election, then obfuscate later. He grows ever more like a snake-oil salesman in demeanor and action with each passing day.

However, as to McCains quote, he is severly misinfomed. There is Respect, there is Tolerance, and there is Acceptance.

Respect is the most basic and should be required. No matter your views on a persons behavior and actions, you should always respect them as a human being. I heavily believe in Kant&#039;s philosophy of believeing all men are responsible for their actions, not society. Therefore if a man commits a crime, to respect his humanity is to give him the proper punishment for that crime. Because he is a man he knows what he did and knew he would be punished for it. To do otherwise is not respect.

Tolerance is a horse of a different color. You should only tolerate that which can be tolerated. Tolerating intolerance is a suicide pact. If something is going to have what you view as a negative impact on society, you must be skeptical until they can prove such a course is neutral or good for society.

Finally, acceptance is the last level you should consider. You do not need to accept anything. Tolerance is one thing, it is the allowing of things you do not deem to be a societal good. Acceptance is endorsing or approving of something.

So to sum it up:

I respect the members of the left who would sell us down the river as human beings, I would not take action against their person. I tolerate their actions even though I find them to be treasonous, illogical, and anti-American. However, i do not accept their actions as a public good, nor do I feel the need to accept their inadequate arguments and treasonous behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with McCain for several reasons and am still trying to figure the guy out. With all his pandering and media love I suspect him to be a closet liberal and I won&#8217;t be electing any of that into office. Hillary is equally duplicitous and I believe they are the same stripe: Kiss any ass to win an election, then obfuscate later. He grows ever more like a snake-oil salesman in demeanor and action with each passing day.</p>
<p>However, as to McCains quote, he is severly misinfomed. There is Respect, there is Tolerance, and there is Acceptance.</p>
<p>Respect is the most basic and should be required. No matter your views on a persons behavior and actions, you should always respect them as a human being. I heavily believe in Kant&#8217;s philosophy of believeing all men are responsible for their actions, not society. Therefore if a man commits a crime, to respect his humanity is to give him the proper punishment for that crime. Because he is a man he knows what he did and knew he would be punished for it. To do otherwise is not respect.</p>
<p>Tolerance is a horse of a different color. You should only tolerate that which can be tolerated. Tolerating intolerance is a suicide pact. If something is going to have what you view as a negative impact on society, you must be skeptical until they can prove such a course is neutral or good for society.</p>
<p>Finally, acceptance is the last level you should consider. You do not need to accept anything. Tolerance is one thing, it is the allowing of things you do not deem to be a societal good. Acceptance is endorsing or approving of something.</p>
<p>So to sum it up:</p>
<p>I respect the members of the left who would sell us down the river as human beings, I would not take action against their person. I tolerate their actions even though I find them to be treasonous, illogical, and anti-American. However, i do not accept their actions as a public good, nor do I feel the need to accept their inadequate arguments and treasonous behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Klem</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-33423</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Klem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are so many people glorifying a corrupt politician like John &quot;Keating Five&quot; McCain?

McCain is a sleazy politician who has ripped of retirees and the taxpayers, the latter by hundreds of billions of dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are so many people glorifying a corrupt politician like John &#8220;Keating Five&#8221; McCain?</p>
<p>McCain is a sleazy politician who has ripped of retirees and the taxpayers, the latter by hundreds of billions of dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21378</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain sure does get a free ride. He hugs the guy who trashed his character in South Carolina, then kisses Falwell&#039;s ass for political reasons, after seeing the price he paid for condemning him. Of course we all agree with what he said. &quot;We should all respect each other even when we disagree?&quot; What a ballsy statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain sure does get a free ride. He hugs the guy who trashed his character in South Carolina, then kisses Falwell&#8217;s ass for political reasons, after seeing the price he paid for condemning him. Of course we all agree with what he said. &#8220;We should all respect each other even when we disagree?&#8221; What a ballsy statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip J. Birmingham</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21372</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip J. Birmingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Nonetheless, I wanted him back in 2000, before Bush skunked him.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, yeah, me too -- I thought he was great.

If McCain had won the primary, I might have voted Republican back then, rather than casting my vote for Harry Browne.  

Now, not so much.  In the intervening six years, it&#039;s seemed like his &quot;straight talk&quot; is more bark than bite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nonetheless, I wanted him back in 2000, before Bush skunked him.</em></p>
<p>Oh, yeah, me too &#8212; I thought he was great.</p>
<p>If McCain had won the primary, I might have voted Republican back then, rather than casting my vote for Harry Browne.  </p>
<p>Now, not so much.  In the intervening six years, it&#8217;s seemed like his &#8220;straight talk&#8221; is more bark than bite.</p>
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		<title>By: Callimachus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21305</link>
		<dc:creator>Callimachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some probpems and quibbles with McCain. Nonetheless, I wanted him back in 2000, before Bush skunked him.

I think he would have grown exponentially in the role.

I think he is the president the gods meant us to have in these eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some probpems and quibbles with McCain. Nonetheless, I wanted him back in 2000, before Bush skunked him.</p>
<p>I think he would have grown exponentially in the role.</p>
<p>I think he is the president the gods meant us to have in these eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip J. Birmingham</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21303</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip J. Birmingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 20:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;He was lecturing an auditoreum full of right wing Christians on the vital importance of respect and dissent. Explain to me why thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a bad thing.&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s not a bad thing.

What is a bad thing is that &quot;don&#039;t be an a-hole&quot; is bring portrayed as a daring concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>He was lecturing an auditoreum full of right wing Christians on the vital importance of respect and dissent. Explain to me why thatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a bad thing.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a bad thing.</p>
<p>What is a bad thing is that &#8220;don&#8217;t be an a-hole&#8221; is bring portrayed as a daring concept.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21275</link>
		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what people are missing is that this speech was a subtle slam on Falwell, it was not McCain crossing over to the dark side.  He was lecturing an auditoreum full of right wing Christians on the vital importance of respect and dissent.  Explain to me why that&#039;s a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what people are missing is that this speech was a subtle slam on Falwell, it was not McCain crossing over to the dark side.  He was lecturing an auditoreum full of right wing Christians on the vital importance of respect and dissent.  Explain to me why that&#8217;s a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21272</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 20:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Michael.  

I&#039;ve liked McCain for quite a while, but I see his getting into bed with Falwell as political calculation only and it&#039;s greatly diminished my respect for him.  

And the likelyhood of my voting for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Michael.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve liked McCain for quite a while, but I see his getting into bed with Falwell as political calculation only and it&#8217;s greatly diminished my respect for him.  </p>
<p>And the likelyhood of my voting for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21269</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 20:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, McCain talks the talk and walks the walk.

Respect is key. It&#039;s what the moderates on both sides strive for. If only the rest of the electorate would hold this value a little big higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, McCain talks the talk and walks the walk.</p>
<p>Respect is key. It&#8217;s what the moderates on both sides strive for. If only the rest of the electorate would hold this value a little big higher.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I preferred him when he lumped falwell in with louis farakhan and said we should avoid both extremes. This statement is great but I think his visit was more than just paying lip service to the extreme right. I view him as having lost a lot of his moderate credentials for this cow-towing to falwell. As a center-left dem I don&#039;t want hillary to run but I would point out that while Mccain has been busy building his far right credentials, hillary has been moving more and more to the center.

Plus Mccain has a serious age issue... if he runs in 2008 he&#039;ll be like 72, 3 years older than the oldest elected president ever (reagan). Mccain is reminding me of Alan Alda in west wing after he lost the election he kept up some false hope of running again in four years... &quot;come on guys, I&#039;m healthy, 70 is the new 60...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I preferred him when he lumped falwell in with louis farakhan and said we should avoid both extremes. This statement is great but I think his visit was more than just paying lip service to the extreme right. I view him as having lost a lot of his moderate credentials for this cow-towing to falwell. As a center-left dem I don&#8217;t want hillary to run but I would point out that while Mccain has been busy building his far right credentials, hillary has been moving more and more to the center.</p>
<p>Plus Mccain has a serious age issue&#8230; if he runs in 2008 he&#8217;ll be like 72, 3 years older than the oldest elected president ever (reagan). Mccain is reminding me of Alan Alda in west wing after he lost the election he kept up some false hope of running again in four years&#8230; &#8220;come on guys, I&#8217;m healthy, 70 is the new 60&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob J Young</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21265</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob J Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do like his words and agree with his sentiment, it also has to be considered that this was a politically astute thing to do and say.  He doesn&#039;t need the religious right to love him, he  just needs it to not actively oppose him.  A centrist will read it as a call for honest debate, the members of liberty university probably took it as a shuffling apology for calling their leader an agent of intolerance. 

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBut let us remember, we are not enemies. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ

If I was in the lions den, I would be inclined to say the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do like his words and agree with his sentiment, it also has to be considered that this was a politically astute thing to do and say.  He doesn&#8217;t need the religious right to love him, he  just needs it to not actively oppose him.  A centrist will read it as a call for honest debate, the members of liberty university probably took it as a shuffling apology for calling their leader an agent of intolerance. </p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBut let us remember, we are not enemies. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ</p>
<p>If I was in the lions den, I would be inclined to say the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: AmbivaBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmbivaBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 15:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The McCain Mutiny&lt;/strong&gt;

Last night I looked in vain for a full transcript of John McCain&#039;s speech at Liberty University. This morning, Michael Reynolds on Donklephant quotes a big chunk of it from Newsweek, with Jon Meacham&#039;s commentary. Read it. McCain&#039;s marvelous words</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The McCain Mutiny</strong></p>
<p>Last night I looked in vain for a full transcript of John McCain&#8217;s speech at Liberty University. This morning, Michael Reynolds on Donklephant quotes a big chunk of it from Newsweek, with Jon Meacham&#8217;s commentary. Read it. McCain&#8217;s marvelous words</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21261</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 14:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think McCain is a neat guy.  I like his attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think McCain is a neat guy.  I like his attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Worth Repeating</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21260</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Marketing, Blog Promotion for Newbies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Worth Repeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hadn&#8217;t clicked through to Donklephant recently and have no idea why I did but I certainly found something worth repeating. A sense of values that doesn&#8217;t seem to be based in greed or the current &#8220;state&#8221; of politics. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hadn&#8217;t clicked through to Donklephant recently and have no idea why I did but I certainly found something worth repeating. A sense of values that doesn&#8217;t seem to be based in greed or the current &#8220;state&#8221; of politics. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dyre Portents</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/05/13/our-guy-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-21256</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyre Portents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 08:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;On John McCain and America&lt;/strong&gt;

McCain took a lot of flack for accepting the speaking engagement at Pat Robertson&#039;s Liberty University and prior to his speech it was my guess that he was pulling the classic Nixonian &quot;Run to the right early, head back to the center mid election seas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On John McCain and America</strong></p>
<p>McCain took a lot of flack for accepting the speaking engagement at Pat Robertson&#8217;s Liberty University and prior to his speech it was my guess that he was pulling the classic Nixonian &#8220;Run to the right early, head back to the center mid election seas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 04:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a quote for the ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a quote for the ages.</p>
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