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	<title>Comments on: Global Warming, Hurricane Katrina and the National Science Foundation</title>
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		<title>By: Tropical plant nursery</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-713342</link>
		<dc:creator>Tropical plant nursery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is our fault, for sure. There&#039;s no need to argue or get upset over it...just look at the facts</description>
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		<title>By: Rhythm</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-376339</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhythm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;GLOBAL WARMING&quot; THIS IS OUR FAULT. FOR OUR COMFORT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE NEXT GENARATION. WE MUST THINK OF FUTURE. IF THIS IS HOW THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE, THAN, THE  DAY IS NOT FAR WHEN THE EARTH IS DESTROED. NOBODY WILL BE ALIVE. MACHINE ARE ONE OF THE CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. SCIENTIST SHOLD MAKE SOME MACHINES THAT DOSENT CAUSE WARM AIR. ALL GOVERMENT OF ALL COUNTRY SHOLD MAKE A RULE THAT A COUPLE SHOLD HAVE 1 CHILD. LIKE THAT OF CHINA. THERE SHOLD OTHER RULES TOO.

WE MUST REMEMBER THAT, THIS EARTH. OUR EARTH. AND WE MUST TAKE CARE OF IT. THOUGH I AM A CHILD OF 12 BUT I RELLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING.  

I AM NOT REPLY TO ANYONE. I AM JUST EXPLAINING MY FELLINGS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GLOBAL WARMING&#8221; THIS IS OUR FAULT. FOR OUR COMFORT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE NEXT GENARATION. WE MUST THINK OF FUTURE. IF THIS IS HOW THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE, THAN, THE  DAY IS NOT FAR WHEN THE EARTH IS DESTROED. NOBODY WILL BE ALIVE. MACHINE ARE ONE OF THE CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. SCIENTIST SHOLD MAKE SOME MACHINES THAT DOSENT CAUSE WARM AIR. ALL GOVERMENT OF ALL COUNTRY SHOLD MAKE A RULE THAT A COUPLE SHOLD HAVE 1 CHILD. LIKE THAT OF CHINA. THERE SHOLD OTHER RULES TOO.</p>
<p>WE MUST REMEMBER THAT, THIS EARTH. OUR EARTH. AND WE MUST TAKE CARE OF IT. THOUGH I AM A CHILD OF 12 BUT I RELLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING.  </p>
<p>I AM NOT REPLY TO ANYONE. I AM JUST EXPLAINING MY FELLINGS.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-376289</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s Evidence! Google it! I&#039;m right your wrong and there&#039;s nothing YOU can do about it. Tha&#039;ts what your all, well about half of you are basically saying, I ashore you in other words I ashore everyone that there hasn&#039;t been ONCE not once where everyone has agreed on  somthing, everyone has different options. Meredith, the way your speaking it seems like you are certain like you&#039;ve traveled back in time to tell us that Global warming is among us. Because of proof? All these previous natural disasters and the earth is still here! How is that possible? I forgot this ISNT a natural disaster because us big fat meanie humans created this problem. Everyone don&#039;t forget to put some deodorant on because its going to get so hot and sweaty were all going to die. Now, you say that because of temperature increases that its dooms day! a horrible fate is among us? 

Mercury is the closest planet to the sun (its next to the sun) and I think it would be safe to say its basicly RIGHT next to it. How come its still there? For some reason it hasn&#039;t desinagrated in all that HEAT and how many million degrees do you think it is there?

But wait I forgot because EARTHS temperature is rising that means are children and are childrens children is going to die along with the earth? Bye bye earth we really miss you...

Oh yah its so HOT GUYS thats why the land parts int he earth are surrounded by freezing water!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s Evidence! Google it! I&#8217;m right your wrong and there&#8217;s nothing YOU can do about it. Tha&#8217;ts what your all, well about half of you are basically saying, I ashore you in other words I ashore everyone that there hasn&#8217;t been ONCE not once where everyone has agreed on  somthing, everyone has different options. Meredith, the way your speaking it seems like you are certain like you&#8217;ve traveled back in time to tell us that Global warming is among us. Because of proof? All these previous natural disasters and the earth is still here! How is that possible? I forgot this ISNT a natural disaster because us big fat meanie humans created this problem. Everyone don&#8217;t forget to put some deodorant on because its going to get so hot and sweaty were all going to die. Now, you say that because of temperature increases that its dooms day! a horrible fate is among us? </p>
<p>Mercury is the closest planet to the sun (its next to the sun) and I think it would be safe to say its basicly RIGHT next to it. How come its still there? For some reason it hasn&#8217;t desinagrated in all that HEAT and how many million degrees do you think it is there?</p>
<p>But wait I forgot because EARTHS temperature is rising that means are children and are childrens children is going to die along with the earth? Bye bye earth we really miss you&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh yah its so HOT GUYS thats why the land parts int he earth are surrounded by freezing water!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-353285</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a difference a year makes. I am delighted to see respectful discourse on this thread after the sarcastic outburst of name calling last June.  

Hi Jonny, I&#039;ll take your question at face value and offer what I think &quot;Greenies&quot; are. I live on Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada where the forests have evolved over the 10,000 years since the last ice age retreated. About 90% of these forests have been logged over the last 150 years. Greenies here are people who believe it is important not to log the last 10%. When you look at the island using Google Earth, you can see the thin strip of old growth forest on the coast...that&#039;s all that&#039;s left. There are lots of trees on the land, but a second growth forest is very different that an old growth forest in terms of how it contributes to the balance of nature.

For example the forests generate oxygen, which we need to live.  Forests moderate evaporation and filter water so water flows clean longer into the summer.

Logging damage to spawning beds and over fishing have reduced the natural salmon stock. Logged hillsides cause flooding and erosion. There are concerns that lice from fish farming are damaging the natural fish stock. Drag net fishing scrapes the bottom of the sea, damaging the foundation of sea life. Industrial pollution can be found in all parts of the vast oceans.

One need not be a scientist to make a simple observation...if we keep damaging elements of the system, it becomes less productive and may destroy the system.

Looking at our &quot;progress&quot; in the last 200 years, how far can we go before the systems that sustain us start breaking down?

Republicans (conservatives) and Democrats (liberals) all eat, drink and breath. Who will protect the source of our essential nutrients. The greenies are. Pull away the rhetoric and I hear people from all sides of the political spectrum caring about their families and communities. Clean air, fresh water and healthy food is the best we can do for them.  

I think one of the most powerful action each of us can take is to manage our own behaviour....and that includes listening to each other. Through dialogue we can find a common truth that is more rewarding than defensive bickering. Whatever your colour green, red or blue, Wise Democracy is one useful, non-political tool that is making a difference in our community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a difference a year makes. I am delighted to see respectful discourse on this thread after the sarcastic outburst of name calling last June.  </p>
<p>Hi Jonny, I&#8217;ll take your question at face value and offer what I think &#8220;Greenies&#8221; are. I live on Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada where the forests have evolved over the 10,000 years since the last ice age retreated. About 90% of these forests have been logged over the last 150 years. Greenies here are people who believe it is important not to log the last 10%. When you look at the island using Google Earth, you can see the thin strip of old growth forest on the coast&#8230;that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s left. There are lots of trees on the land, but a second growth forest is very different that an old growth forest in terms of how it contributes to the balance of nature.</p>
<p>For example the forests generate oxygen, which we need to live.  Forests moderate evaporation and filter water so water flows clean longer into the summer.</p>
<p>Logging damage to spawning beds and over fishing have reduced the natural salmon stock. Logged hillsides cause flooding and erosion. There are concerns that lice from fish farming are damaging the natural fish stock. Drag net fishing scrapes the bottom of the sea, damaging the foundation of sea life. Industrial pollution can be found in all parts of the vast oceans.</p>
<p>One need not be a scientist to make a simple observation&#8230;if we keep damaging elements of the system, it becomes less productive and may destroy the system.</p>
<p>Looking at our &#8220;progress&#8221; in the last 200 years, how far can we go before the systems that sustain us start breaking down?</p>
<p>Republicans (conservatives) and Democrats (liberals) all eat, drink and breath. Who will protect the source of our essential nutrients. The greenies are. Pull away the rhetoric and I hear people from all sides of the political spectrum caring about their families and communities. Clean air, fresh water and healthy food is the best we can do for them.  </p>
<p>I think one of the most powerful action each of us can take is to manage our own behaviour&#8230;.and that includes listening to each other. Through dialogue we can find a common truth that is more rewarding than defensive bickering. Whatever your colour green, red or blue, Wise Democracy is one useful, non-political tool that is making a difference in our community.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Yeo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-340584</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Yeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 08:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re most welcome, Kamikaze_Johnny. I just hope more and more people can understand that this is not about Republicans vs Democrats. It never was. Politics are for self-important fools who promise you the world and offer you nothing. This is about the world we live in and the kind of history we choose to leave behind for the generations to come.

No matter what one politician says to bend the truth, we must never ignore the fact that this is our one and only home. We haven&#039;t got a spare lying around somewhere out in the solar system that we could just fly to. We can&#039;t say &quot;Earth sucks.&quot; and then pack up and move to Uranus. We&#039;re pretty much stuck here.

This is not politics. This the common decency and respect that we ought to show our fellow human beings that share this piece of round flying rock with us. There is no side to choose here - we&#039;re in this together. Let&#039;s think about that a while.

And as for Greenies, I thought it was a brand of dog treats... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re most welcome, Kamikaze_Johnny. I just hope more and more people can understand that this is not about Republicans vs Democrats. It never was. Politics are for self-important fools who promise you the world and offer you nothing. This is about the world we live in and the kind of history we choose to leave behind for the generations to come.</p>
<p>No matter what one politician says to bend the truth, we must never ignore the fact that this is our one and only home. We haven&#8217;t got a spare lying around somewhere out in the solar system that we could just fly to. We can&#8217;t say &#8220;Earth sucks.&#8221; and then pack up and move to Uranus. We&#8217;re pretty much stuck here.</p>
<p>This is not politics. This the common decency and respect that we ought to show our fellow human beings that share this piece of round flying rock with us. There is no side to choose here &#8211; we&#8217;re in this together. Let&#8217;s think about that a while.</p>
<p>And as for Greenies, I thought it was a brand of dog treats&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kamikaze_Johnny</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-340448</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamikaze_Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 01:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do very much agree with you on the fact that little things that we do or save can help the environment. I have just in fact recently started recycling and have realized that all these bottles and cans add up and can bring in a little extra cash. All though I personally don&#039;t believe that when I am dead, that I can see what is happening in the world, but you have helped me realized that I don&#039;t need to be so stubborn and waste energy. And for that I thank you, Roy Yeo. But can someone tell me exactly what &quot;Greenies&#039; are and what their main ideas and morals are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do very much agree with you on the fact that little things that we do or save can help the environment. I have just in fact recently started recycling and have realized that all these bottles and cans add up and can bring in a little extra cash. All though I personally don&#8217;t believe that when I am dead, that I can see what is happening in the world, but you have helped me realized that I don&#8217;t need to be so stubborn and waste energy. And for that I thank you, Roy Yeo. But can someone tell me exactly what &#8220;Greenies&#8217; are and what their main ideas and morals are?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Yeo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-340040</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Yeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 07:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I mentioned earlier, the earth is certainly getting warmer and the reasons behind it can be linked to what we have been doing on this planet and also simply because of how nature works - expanding sun theory, hot/cold cycles, etc. I firmly believe, as do you, that these are the 2 main contributing factors to global warming.

Lest we be fooled, an increase of even 1 degree Celcius (33.8F), which is the kind of temperature increase we&#039;re looking at over the next few years, can have repercussions on our environment. Already, the ice caps on both ends of our planet are melting. While 1 degree(C) may seem like nothing, micro-ecosystems could be wiped out with just that change. If you understand the butterfly effect, or even the domino effect, this translates to pretty extreme changes at the other end of the scale.

While we may not be able to control nature&#039;s course, we still have the power to control our contribution to global warming. We might be able to control it to the point which could contain the effects of this phenomenon to where it would still be bearable and less destructive than pictured. It really doesn&#039;t take a ridiculous amount of effort on our parts. The simple act of switching off lights and electrical appliances when not in use, helps. Or switching to hybrid cars and alternative fuels. Recycling. Like I said, butterfly effect - every little thing that we can do the help, will aid the bigger picture.

Fair enough that you live only for yourself, I&#039;m not here to judge. What kind o legacy you choose to leave behind for your family and the human race is entirely up to you. It&#039;s a little different for me - just because I may be dead before I see the drastic effects global warming might have on this planet doesn&#039;t mean that I can bear to see my kids and grandkids pay the price simply because I was too selfish to care about what kind of world I leave behind for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I mentioned earlier, the earth is certainly getting warmer and the reasons behind it can be linked to what we have been doing on this planet and also simply because of how nature works &#8211; expanding sun theory, hot/cold cycles, etc. I firmly believe, as do you, that these are the 2 main contributing factors to global warming.</p>
<p>Lest we be fooled, an increase of even 1 degree Celcius (33.8F), which is the kind of temperature increase we&#8217;re looking at over the next few years, can have repercussions on our environment. Already, the ice caps on both ends of our planet are melting. While 1 degree(C) may seem like nothing, micro-ecosystems could be wiped out with just that change. If you understand the butterfly effect, or even the domino effect, this translates to pretty extreme changes at the other end of the scale.</p>
<p>While we may not be able to control nature&#8217;s course, we still have the power to control our contribution to global warming. We might be able to control it to the point which could contain the effects of this phenomenon to where it would still be bearable and less destructive than pictured. It really doesn&#8217;t take a ridiculous amount of effort on our parts. The simple act of switching off lights and electrical appliances when not in use, helps. Or switching to hybrid cars and alternative fuels. Recycling. Like I said, butterfly effect &#8211; every little thing that we can do the help, will aid the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Fair enough that you live only for yourself, I&#8217;m not here to judge. What kind o legacy you choose to leave behind for your family and the human race is entirely up to you. It&#8217;s a little different for me &#8211; just because I may be dead before I see the drastic effects global warming might have on this planet doesn&#8217;t mean that I can bear to see my kids and grandkids pay the price simply because I was too selfish to care about what kind of world I leave behind for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamikaze_Johnny</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-338940</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamikaze_Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 02:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have what everyone has posted and was wondering why there seems to be so much hatred to democrats and republicans and these so called &quot;Greenies.&quot;
But on that note, I must agree that Al Gore is somewhat hypocritical as said by others in how he doesn&#039;t seem to do much to help our planet. But i do not hate the guy, I just think there should either be someone else who can create examples or he himself should be the example creator. And those who say Global Warming isn&#039;t true have their reasons, because it isn&#039;t impossible that a party (not specifically democrats) could use a sort of scapegoat to gain presidency. History has told us that things like this happen where leaders claim one thing to destroy their people but yet it may not be much concern to anyone at all. I personally believe that global warming is real. But I wouldn&#039;t but the blame on us humans quite yet. An increase of 1 degree (F) in 100 years does not seem like something that could burn us alive anytime soon. But something else has grabbed my attention so much. No one has mentioned that the sun is (according to astrologists) expanding and has been pretty much ever since it was created. Would this not be a possible contribution to very slight temperature increases? On the other hand, and you can use this against me, I am one who lives for myself. By this I mean that I am really not so scared for my children or grandchildren or any other future generations linked to me. I believe I would be dead before any significant deadly changes occur in our environment. I am looking forward to reading anything against or supporting me statements. Until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have what everyone has posted and was wondering why there seems to be so much hatred to democrats and republicans and these so called &#8220;Greenies.&#8221;<br />
But on that note, I must agree that Al Gore is somewhat hypocritical as said by others in how he doesn&#8217;t seem to do much to help our planet. But i do not hate the guy, I just think there should either be someone else who can create examples or he himself should be the example creator. And those who say Global Warming isn&#8217;t true have their reasons, because it isn&#8217;t impossible that a party (not specifically democrats) could use a sort of scapegoat to gain presidency. History has told us that things like this happen where leaders claim one thing to destroy their people but yet it may not be much concern to anyone at all. I personally believe that global warming is real. But I wouldn&#8217;t but the blame on us humans quite yet. An increase of 1 degree (F) in 100 years does not seem like something that could burn us alive anytime soon. But something else has grabbed my attention so much. No one has mentioned that the sun is (according to astrologists) expanding and has been pretty much ever since it was created. Would this not be a possible contribution to very slight temperature increases? On the other hand, and you can use this against me, I am one who lives for myself. By this I mean that I am really not so scared for my children or grandchildren or any other future generations linked to me. I believe I would be dead before any significant deadly changes occur in our environment. I am looking forward to reading anything against or supporting me statements. Until then.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Yeo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-337079</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Yeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 05:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, do we really need a reason to take better care of our home? Either way you look at it, Earth is getting warmer and we, like it or not, are a contributing factor. So we argue and argue and argue, and then what? Who is getting off their fat arses to do anything about it?

Greenhouse gas emissions, the burning of fossil fuels, the depletion of of our natural resources, over-fishing, completely unnecessary V-12 6l engines... Who, in the face of all that, can boldly say that humans do not have an adverse effect on our environment? How can we be so irresponsible as to not own up to the gradual destruction of our own home?

The earth may be getting warmer due to a variety of reasons, some of which are due to our own doing, some of which may be due to just the way Nature behaves. We&#039;re not all right but we&#039;re not all wrong either.

What we can do is acknowledge that this is our home - our goddam one and only home - and that we&#039;re damaging it to an extent. Rather than sit here and point fingers, we should do what we can to preserve it. Is this what we want our children to grow up with? Do we want to make our problems theirs as well?

This is just disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, do we really need a reason to take better care of our home? Either way you look at it, Earth is getting warmer and we, like it or not, are a contributing factor. So we argue and argue and argue, and then what? Who is getting off their fat arses to do anything about it?</p>
<p>Greenhouse gas emissions, the burning of fossil fuels, the depletion of of our natural resources, over-fishing, completely unnecessary V-12 6l engines&#8230; Who, in the face of all that, can boldly say that humans do not have an adverse effect on our environment? How can we be so irresponsible as to not own up to the gradual destruction of our own home?</p>
<p>The earth may be getting warmer due to a variety of reasons, some of which are due to our own doing, some of which may be due to just the way Nature behaves. We&#8217;re not all right but we&#8217;re not all wrong either.</p>
<p>What we can do is acknowledge that this is our home &#8211; our goddam one and only home &#8211; and that we&#8217;re damaging it to an extent. Rather than sit here and point fingers, we should do what we can to preserve it. Is this what we want our children to grow up with? Do we want to make our problems theirs as well?</p>
<p>This is just disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: "native American"</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-308838</link>
		<dc:creator>"native American"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody or just one or two cultures just did global warming. I don&#039;t care who you are democrats or republicans, minority or majority, rich or poor, we are all here. Now are we just going to push it off on everyone else or stand up and join this revolution for a healthy and proactive society. WE ALL DID THIS, WE ALL HAVE TO UNDUE THIS, OR PAY FOR IT WITH OUR CHILDRENS LIVES (as well as our own). I am sorry I don&#039;t want my kids, your kids, their kids growing up in HELL. I use a car, fly in an air plane, smoke cig., have electronics; but to say that native americans hunted the woolly mammoth to extinction, and aborigines do the same, or that osama and his buddies (I hate them) are to blame for all of this. My reply is WHO WERE THE FARMERS? WHO INVENTED THE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, POISONES GASES, OR CHEMICALS? WHO REALLY HUNTED THE WOOLY MAMMOTH TO EXTINCTION? Indigenous people of turtle island did not take what we could not give back. Our greed and hatred of everything and everyone did. We live then we die that is our cycle as well as everything else. I would like to live longer the what is excepted of me and I want the world to still be here. Scientist will help me live longer and hopefully healthier. But science is not god or meant to be god. I think it here to help us. Lets not stray from the question. Global warming is happening what can we do to prevent it or do we wait for another Katrina or something worst happen before we decide to get off of our high horses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody or just one or two cultures just did global warming. I don&#8217;t care who you are democrats or republicans, minority or majority, rich or poor, we are all here. Now are we just going to push it off on everyone else or stand up and join this revolution for a healthy and proactive society. WE ALL DID THIS, WE ALL HAVE TO UNDUE THIS, OR PAY FOR IT WITH OUR CHILDRENS LIVES (as well as our own). I am sorry I don&#8217;t want my kids, your kids, their kids growing up in HELL. I use a car, fly in an air plane, smoke cig., have electronics; but to say that native americans hunted the woolly mammoth to extinction, and aborigines do the same, or that osama and his buddies (I hate them) are to blame for all of this. My reply is WHO WERE THE FARMERS? WHO INVENTED THE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, POISONES GASES, OR CHEMICALS? WHO REALLY HUNTED THE WOOLY MAMMOTH TO EXTINCTION? Indigenous people of turtle island did not take what we could not give back. Our greed and hatred of everything and everyone did. We live then we die that is our cycle as well as everything else. I would like to live longer the what is excepted of me and I want the world to still be here. Scientist will help me live longer and hopefully healthier. But science is not god or meant to be god. I think it here to help us. Lets not stray from the question. Global warming is happening what can we do to prevent it or do we wait for another Katrina or something worst happen before we decide to get off of our high horses?</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Al Gore looks like an idiot when he complains about Global Warming while he travlels the world in his private jet.  He lives in a 13,000 sq. ft. house.  What kind of energy does a house that size use?  Why doesn&#039;t he drive a hybrid and live in an energy friendly appartment?  I think it makes it him look hypocritical.  Climate change is too gradual to be determined within 50 or 100 years.  Climate change takes much longer.  I think there needs to be more research into Global Warming that is unbiased.  We all know the evidence about Global Warming, but why don&#039;t we hear counter arguements about people who DONT believe in Global Warming?  I think part of being a true scientist is looking at different perspetives and investigating different theories other than just looking at one piece of information (the earth is warming) and determining that we evil humans have caused all of it (that&#039;s a big conclusion to come from one data point).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Al Gore looks like an idiot when he complains about Global Warming while he travlels the world in his private jet.  He lives in a 13,000 sq. ft. house.  What kind of energy does a house that size use?  Why doesn&#8217;t he drive a hybrid and live in an energy friendly appartment?  I think it makes it him look hypocritical.  Climate change is too gradual to be determined within 50 or 100 years.  Climate change takes much longer.  I think there needs to be more research into Global Warming that is unbiased.  We all know the evidence about Global Warming, but why don&#8217;t we hear counter arguements about people who DONT believe in Global Warming?  I think part of being a true scientist is looking at different perspetives and investigating different theories other than just looking at one piece of information (the earth is warming) and determining that we evil humans have caused all of it (that&#8217;s a big conclusion to come from one data point).</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok it is pathetic how poeple belive global warming is false.....

I mean have u not been out side in our summers in the past 10 years? 
seems tons hotter right?  Wonder why?
O yea and then poeple say &quot;O the world gets hotter and colder thourghout the years&quot; as in like the past when we have heat waves and ice ages and etc.   

but i mean lets say it only gets soo hot then starts getting real cold.....
If the temp raise 20 degrees what will happen if it lowers 20 from the normal winter degree?
Crops gonna die? preety sure.......
So if morons like you would start now and get everone to join in and help our dam environment.....then maybe we can save our childrens kids from all this mayham....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok it is pathetic how poeple belive global warming is false&#8230;..</p>
<p>I mean have u not been out side in our summers in the past 10 years?<br />
seems tons hotter right?  Wonder why?<br />
O yea and then poeple say &#8220;O the world gets hotter and colder thourghout the years&#8221; as in like the past when we have heat waves and ice ages and etc.   </p>
<p>but i mean lets say it only gets soo hot then starts getting real cold&#8230;..<br />
If the temp raise 20 degrees what will happen if it lowers 20 from the normal winter degree?<br />
Crops gonna die? preety sure&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
So if morons like you would start now and get everone to join in and help our dam environment&#8230;..then maybe we can save our childrens kids from all this mayham&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-43778</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trickish,
Again, my statement was in regard to your blanket statement that you will not listen to any conversation about global warming if it comes from Al Gore or &quot;whining greenies.&quot;

The point is, there is a lot of research and science behind this environmental phenomenon, and you don&#039;t have to listen to me.  The information is all over the place for you to educate yourself with.  So far, besides rightwingers and politicans saying that it&#039;s a vast leftwing conspiracy, I have not seen or heard anything to dissuade me from believing that it is a problem, whether it&#039;s an imminent catastrophe or a gradual problem.

Besides having another good reason so bash on liberals, I really don&#039;t understand what the point is of denying the existence of this issue because it does and should matter to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trickish,<br />
Again, my statement was in regard to your blanket statement that you will not listen to any conversation about global warming if it comes from Al Gore or &#8220;whining greenies.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is, there is a lot of research and science behind this environmental phenomenon, and you don&#8217;t have to listen to me.  The information is all over the place for you to educate yourself with.  So far, besides rightwingers and politicans saying that it&#8217;s a vast leftwing conspiracy, I have not seen or heard anything to dissuade me from believing that it is a problem, whether it&#8217;s an imminent catastrophe or a gradual problem.</p>
<p>Besides having another good reason so bash on liberals, I really don&#8217;t understand what the point is of denying the existence of this issue because it does and should matter to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Trickish Knave</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-43266</link>
		<dc:creator>Trickish Knave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-

I will listen to an intelligent conversation about the subject but so far you have failed to present one. The only reason I brought up my truck is because you insinuated that I perpetuate the global warming problem, and I assumed since I wrote about my gas guzzling truck, that you were making a comparison. Evidently, your statement was just a blanket response having nothing to do with what I wrote. 



So far your acquaintances with scientists who study global warming are hardly an inspriration for me to take you or this subject seriously on the scope that Gore and his lemmings harrangue. I do my part to conserve and recycle. But a movie by Al Gore has as much influence on my ideas of global warming as does A Michael Moore movie on September 11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-</p>
<p>I will listen to an intelligent conversation about the subject but so far you have failed to present one. The only reason I brought up my truck is because you insinuated that I perpetuate the global warming problem, and I assumed since I wrote about my gas guzzling truck, that you were making a comparison. Evidently, your statement was just a blanket response having nothing to do with what I wrote. </p>
<p>So far your acquaintances with scientists who study global warming are hardly an inspriration for me to take you or this subject seriously on the scope that Gore and his lemmings harrangue. I do my part to conserve and recycle. But a movie by Al Gore has as much influence on my ideas of global warming as does A Michael Moore movie on September 11.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-43208</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=P</description>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-43191</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Jimmy,

You go first.

(Sorry - of course a joke - I couldn&#039;t resist)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Jimmy,</p>
<p>You go first.</p>
<p>(Sorry &#8211; of course a joke &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t resist)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-43033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God damn farmers tearing up the earth and changing the natural ecology of the planet. Countless species of plants, insects, large and small animals alike, all gone extinct.  Erosion of coastlines and hillsides, massive destruction of forests and grasslands, depletion of soil minerals, fertilizer run-off pollution, not to mention the climate change this has all caused.

The only solution is to become hunter gatherers again...wait, didn&#039;t native Americans hunt the wooly mammoth to extinction, and the aboribgnes do the same for the Australian egret?  Damn.  We should all kill ourselves then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God damn farmers tearing up the earth and changing the natural ecology of the planet. Countless species of plants, insects, large and small animals alike, all gone extinct.  Erosion of coastlines and hillsides, massive destruction of forests and grasslands, depletion of soil minerals, fertilizer run-off pollution, not to mention the climate change this has all caused.</p>
<p>The only solution is to become hunter gatherers again&#8230;wait, didn&#8217;t native Americans hunt the wooly mammoth to extinction, and the aboribgnes do the same for the Australian egret?  Damn.  We should all kill ourselves then.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-42995</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

You didn&#039;t cite any facts above. Do you deny that there is damage to the environment?  Do you deny that global warming exists?  Or, do you just deny that humans did it?  Was it cats?  Are scientists just making this stuff up for fun?  Are they being paid to say things by Al Gore?  

I personally believe that Osama and his buddies in Iran and Iraq are to blame for all of this.  It&#039;s most likely that all their production of nuclear weapons and WMD&#039;s has released a lot of nasty chemicals and poisonous gasses which are destroying the environment.  The solution?  I say we nuke &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t cite any facts above. Do you deny that there is damage to the environment?  Do you deny that global warming exists?  Or, do you just deny that humans did it?  Was it cats?  Are scientists just making this stuff up for fun?  Are they being paid to say things by Al Gore?  </p>
<p>I personally believe that Osama and his buddies in Iran and Iraq are to blame for all of this.  It&#8217;s most likely that all their production of nuclear weapons and WMD&#8217;s has released a lot of nasty chemicals and poisonous gasses which are destroying the environment.  The solution?  I say we nuke &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-2/#comment-42992</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trickish,
My sources are scientists.  They are people, as mentioned above by Stefano, who have spent years working on MD&#039;s, PhD&#039;s and the like.  They are not partisan, at least while they are doing their jobs, which are to conduct decades-long scientific experiments to determine what climate shifts we are having, how pure our air and water are, how we&#039;re doing on natural resources, etc.  Sources which do NOT count on this topic are politicians, who usually have a response akin to, &quot;Nuh Uhh - no there is not global warming - that&#039;s just something leftwing nuts say.&quot;

I don&#039;t know why you keep freaking out about your damn truck.  I never said you were an evil person for having one, that I thought it was bad - I&#039;ve never said anything about you owning a truck!  The point is, people like you are basically demonstrating that you will not listen to anyone who is trying to educate you about global warming if they are liberals.  I&#039;ll bet that if a conservative tried to talk with you about it, you would accuse him or her of being a closet liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trickish,<br />
My sources are scientists.  They are people, as mentioned above by Stefano, who have spent years working on MD&#8217;s, PhD&#8217;s and the like.  They are not partisan, at least while they are doing their jobs, which are to conduct decades-long scientific experiments to determine what climate shifts we are having, how pure our air and water are, how we&#8217;re doing on natural resources, etc.  Sources which do NOT count on this topic are politicians, who usually have a response akin to, &#8220;Nuh Uhh &#8211; no there is not global warming &#8211; that&#8217;s just something leftwing nuts say.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you keep freaking out about your damn truck.  I never said you were an evil person for having one, that I thought it was bad &#8211; I&#8217;ve never said anything about you owning a truck!  The point is, people like you are basically demonstrating that you will not listen to anyone who is trying to educate you about global warming if they are liberals.  I&#8217;ll bet that if a conservative tried to talk with you about it, you would accuse him or her of being a closet liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/06/23/global-warming-hurricane-katrina-and-the-national-science-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-41545</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit, I leave for 8 hours and a brawl breaks out.  Well, the Democrats do suck and Mexico City at 3000 feet smells like you&#039;ve flown into a cloud of acid-laced fecal dust.  Will the acid-laced fecal dust bring about an apocolyptic environmental change killing 97% of humanity?  I don&#039;t know.  Does our policy towards planet earth necessarily have to hinge upon the &quot;extend&quot; we are going to fuck the place up, the level of our earth-raping tolerance.  

Pollution is an negative externality of our petro driven economy.  Given enough facts, we could calculate the shifted-cost of each individuals emissions if we had some set price for the environment.  The perfect market solution for the environment is not that &quot;noth&#039;in&quot; is done, but that the generator of emission is charged for his emissions. 

The value of the environment is subjective and so we get conflicted values.  The anti-environmentalist don&#039;t want the earth to be swamped and for everyone to die, nor do they really believe that there is NO EFFECT from pollution.  They just value their own current economic safety, at the moment, more than any threat to the enviroment with the current scientific evidence.  Reasonable people can disagree on our impact on the environment and the relative value of the temperature.   

Al Gore is on Letterman and Syriana just came in Netflicts. Good Lord.  Al Gore, claiming the end is near, is not a good eco-marketing strategy.  He said verbatim, &quot;The scientific debate is over.&quot;  Really?  Global warming is an empirical fact?  That is bullshit.  Why doesn&#039;t he just say, &quot;The scientific debate continues, but if I&#039;m right and the anti-environmentalist is wrong -- it means humanity is doomed.&quot;  Doesn&#039;t the prospect of doomed humanity (along with significant supporting evidence) carry the day over polly-anna-ism (supported by lesser evidence)?  If is he so certain of his position, why doesn&#039;t he encourage the continued debate -- obviously there are scientists with conflicting theories on the effect of the floating cloud of acid-laced fecal dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit, I leave for 8 hours and a brawl breaks out.  Well, the Democrats do suck and Mexico City at 3000 feet smells like you&#8217;ve flown into a cloud of acid-laced fecal dust.  Will the acid-laced fecal dust bring about an apocolyptic environmental change killing 97% of humanity?  I don&#8217;t know.  Does our policy towards planet earth necessarily have to hinge upon the &#8220;extend&#8221; we are going to fuck the place up, the level of our earth-raping tolerance.  </p>
<p>Pollution is an negative externality of our petro driven economy.  Given enough facts, we could calculate the shifted-cost of each individuals emissions if we had some set price for the environment.  The perfect market solution for the environment is not that &#8220;noth&#8217;in&#8221; is done, but that the generator of emission is charged for his emissions. </p>
<p>The value of the environment is subjective and so we get conflicted values.  The anti-environmentalist don&#8217;t want the earth to be swamped and for everyone to die, nor do they really believe that there is NO EFFECT from pollution.  They just value their own current economic safety, at the moment, more than any threat to the enviroment with the current scientific evidence.  Reasonable people can disagree on our impact on the environment and the relative value of the temperature.   </p>
<p>Al Gore is on Letterman and Syriana just came in Netflicts. Good Lord.  Al Gore, claiming the end is near, is not a good eco-marketing strategy.  He said verbatim, &#8220;The scientific debate is over.&#8221;  Really?  Global warming is an empirical fact?  That is bullshit.  Why doesn&#8217;t he just say, &#8220;The scientific debate continues, but if I&#8217;m right and the anti-environmentalist is wrong &#8212; it means humanity is doomed.&#8221;  Doesn&#8217;t the prospect of doomed humanity (along with significant supporting evidence) carry the day over polly-anna-ism (supported by lesser evidence)?  If is he so certain of his position, why doesn&#8217;t he encourage the continued debate &#8212; obviously there are scientists with conflicting theories on the effect of the floating cloud of acid-laced fecal dust.</p>
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