http://donklephant.com/2006/07/19/war-is-peace/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://donklephant.com/2006/07/19/war-is-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-52798 ChrisO Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:02:07 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/07/19/war-is-peace/#comment-52798 I know a lot of Bush supporters are fond of citing the examples mentioned in this post as precedent for Bush's actions. But the questions that no one seems to ask are 1) were those Presidents' actions justified and 2) did they actually help to win their respective wars? Roosevelt's Japanese internment is widely viewed as a shameful episode in our history, until it's trotted out by a Bush apologist. Did imprisoning Debs really help us win WWI? Did suspending habas corpus help us win the Civil War? It's little noted, but from my understanding, there was opposition to all of these actions from within each President's administration. I think if citizens in those days had the information sources we have today, it would have been much harder for them to get away with it. Except perhaps for the internments, which were based on racism as well as war fever. I know a lot of Bush supporters are fond of citing the examples mentioned in this post as precedent for Bush’s actions. But the questions that no one seems to ask are 1) were those Presidents’ actions justified and 2) did they actually help to win their respective wars? Roosevelt’s Japanese internment is widely viewed as a shameful episode in our history, until it’s trotted out by a Bush apologist. Did imprisoning Debs really help us win WWI? Did suspending habas corpus help us win the Civil War? It’s little noted, but from my understanding, there was opposition to all of these actions from within each President’s administration. I think if citizens in those days had the information sources we have today, it would have been much harder for them to get away with it. Except perhaps for the internments, which were based on racism as well as war fever.

]]> http://donklephant.com/2006/07/19/war-is-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-52724 Treehugger Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:21:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/07/19/war-is-peace/#comment-52724 The precedent for the Bush admin's interpretation of law is much closer to Germany's Enabling Act "Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich" of 1933. The precedent for the Bush admin’s interpretation of law is much closer to Germany’s Enabling Act “Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich” of 1933.

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