Hugo Chavez Visits Iran.

By amba | Related entries in The World, War

Today. Hugo’s 52nd birthday, his fifth visit.

And Hezbollah has been active in South America for quite a while.

New Axis of hostile powers coalescing. Li’l Kim, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, two out of three on or over the verge of going nuclear. Islamofascists and leftists, allied in hostility to America. Really does seem likely that Europe will ultimately go under and go Muslim. What will China and Russia do? And Pakistan? Which will prove more powerful, the unifying force of a common enemy or the Sunni-Shi’a, theocratic-secular splits?

It would be fascinating if it weren’t so frightening. From the point of view of a chess player or videogamer from outer space, it’s the Great Game. How to mortally wound mighty America.


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16 Responses to “Hugo Chavez Visits Iran.”

  1. Dyre42 Says:

    I can’t see Europe going Muslim. Although I can see Europe (not including Britain) being paralyzed should a middle eastern conflict or globe spanning war involving a few Muslim countries break out. I’m willing to bet that should either occur China and Russia play arms supplier to “The Axis” but remains neutral but Russia supplies oil to the U.S. Meanwhile Pakistan and India swap nukes.

    I’m also willing to bet that Chavez would lose popular support should it become apparent that his anti-American policies/actions jeopardizes Venezuala’s economic rebirth.

    N. Korea despite its nuclear capability isn’t in an ideal position. There exists a growing dissident movement within its borders additionally it can’t nuke S. Korea without contaminating its own soil.

    There are however certain factors that change that possible scenario such as N. Korea perefects its ICBM technology and trades it to Iran for their stealth technology or Islamofascist terrorism against Russia rises and they opt not to supply munitions to “The Axis” and supply the U.S. with oil at reasonable prices to keep the Islamofascist wolf from their door.

    What is extremely hard to predict is what course of events would set this in motion. What I do know is that the current strategy in Iraq/Afghanistan will do nothing to combat this scenario AND that nothing the Dems have suggested will either.

    If we are to avoid this or a similiar scenario then we need a brand new strategy. One that is not based on cold war thinking, Viet Nam era counter insurgency strategems, or smaller more efficient troop theories.

    One thing changed for certain on 9/11 the face of our opponents and the tactics needed to defeat them. And so far no political party has realized this.

  2. Chris Says:

    I have to agree I don’t really see Europe going Muslim. Chavez is slowly screwing himself over and Kim Jong-Il just wants attention. Ahman..blah-blah can’t possibly hope to gain anything fighting against the U.S unless he wants to become more isolated. I see his words more as just big talk from a very weak individual.

  3. ford4x4 Says:

    Didn’t Russia just a ink a multi-billion dollar arms deal with Chavez?

    It appears we are begining to chose sides for WWIII.

  4. probligo Says:

    Just goes to show what happens when you slam the door in the face of a beggar.

    He finds another warm hearth.

  5. scott sullivan Says:

    Iran-Watch.comLine-up for Iraq Civil War

    Scott Sullivan

    The Iraqi Civil War — which in importance resembles the Spanish Civil War of 1936 — will be the first big test for the Ahmadinejad-Chavez Axis of fascists (in every way comparable to the Hitler-Mussolini Axis of the 1930′s).

    The defining issue in Iraq’s civil war is not religion (as Iran and its allies want you to believe) but whether Iraq will retain its teritorial integrity and independence or become a province of Iran, in whole or part. Iran has just taken Lebanon and the Palestinian Authority. Now Iran wants to consolidate these gains by taking Iraq. At that point, Iran would dominate the Middle East.

    A defeat for the fascists in Iraq would deal a fatal blow to the global ambitions of Ahmadinejad and Chavez. Alternatively, a win for the fascists in Iraq would bring the region far closer to a major crisis, and would have highly negative implications for global stability. In this sense, the stakes are far higher in Iraq today than in 1936 Spain.

    Two Competing Coalitions

    Again, the war in Iraq is not sectarian (ie. based on religion) as is frequently asserted. It is a war between those who favor Iranian rule over Iraq against those who prefer Iraqi sovereignty. Iran wants to weaken Iraq via partition, and then use the portions of Iraq under Iran’s control as a base for further aggression against Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and other states.

    Iraq’s elections are now being subverted by Iran, which is infiltrating ky Iraqi institutions and openly promoting Iraq’s partition, which the vast majority of Iraqis oppose, aside from the Kurds.

    Iran/SCIRI has now entered into an extra-legal alliance with the Kurds — which has no basis in a popular mandate or the constitution — to separate the Shia territories with most of Iraq’s oil resources from Iraq. Such a drastic step is driving Iraq toward all out civil war, and is setting the stage for intervention in Iraq by the Sunni states, who would follow Iran.

    Line-up for Iraqi Civil War

    Here is the lineup in Iraq, based on the most likely participants in Iraq’s civil war.

    Pro-Iraq

    Turkey

    Saudi Arabia

    Russia/China/SCO

    Mahdi Army/al-Sadr

    Iraqi Sunnis

    Sheik Nasrallah

    Iraqi Marxists and secularists

    Syria

    Pro-Iran

    Iran/Ahmadinejad

    U.S.A./Ambassador Khalilzad

    SCIRI/al-Hakim

    Kurdish parties

    PM al-Maliki

    From this list it is obvious that a major weakness of Iran’s coalition is that it has no foreign support, aside from Venezuela and the USA. In particular, Iran lacks support in the region, even from Syria and Sheik Nasrallah, who has spoken out against Iraq’s partition, as has Syria.

    Most importantly, Iran lacks support within Iraq, aside from SCIRI and the Kurds. Most Shia favor independence from Iran, as do all the Sunnis and Iraqi secularists.

    In contrast, the Iraq Sovereignty Coalition has strong external support in the region and beyond, as well as on the domestic front. This is the side that will prevail.

  6. amba Says:

    al-Sadr and Nasrallah are pro-Iraq? And the U.S. is pro-Iran? Could you explain that?!

  7. probligo Says:

    amba, I agree.

    Add “the Kurds are pro-Iran? Not likely!!”

    The Kurds are pro-Kurdistan. Nothing more, nothing less. They do not want to be tied to alliances with old enemies when they achieve that objective.

    See too, my comment to the later post on this topic.

  8. amba Says:

    I’ve read that the Kurds are dealing with Iran, though.

  9. Dyre42 Says:

    As have I. I’m under the impression they are working on the theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend which probably hold true about 75% of the time. But I believe that Iran would rather see the Kurds subjugated rather than tolerated UNLESS they can weaken the Sunni’s in the area or pose a threat/distraction to turkey. In which case the Kurds would be subjugated once their usefulness has ended.

  10. probligo Says:

    I personally suspect that the Kurds would deal with Iran in much the same way as a mongoose would regard a fairly poisonous snake – with extreme care.

  11. Zeb749 Says:

    Chaves is using these trips to gain support and make deals. He has been quoted to say “If we are united, we can not only resist but we can defeat imperialism.” He is also learning how to mount an effective PR campaign here in the US to improve his image as evidenced by the visit of Reverend Jesse Jackson with Chavez, and Chavez’s plan to sell refined oil products at lower costs to hospitals, nursing homes, schools, and ORGANIZED poor communities in the US. Great Huh! Sounds like the same plan that has worked beautifully for Hezbollah in S. Lebanon. Except this is within our own borders. I don’t think anyone has doubt where the profits for this plan will go: (1) Reverend Jackson’s organization who will identify the needy recipiants of this generosity. Great to make Jessie Jackson appear to be great while making deals with the devil. (2) For Chevez to buy arms to defeat imperialism (USA). The war is on right now. Pick your side.

  12. scott sullivan Says:

    Iran and the Kurds are united in wanting to partition Iraq. I agree Iran will then turn on the Kurds once their utility as an ally is exhausted.

  13. The Reality-Based Community Says:

    don’t be retarded. nations look out for their own interests. since the US is the global imperial power, there’s going to be turbulence around the empire. Hugo Chavez is doing a great job for his people, and I wish that we’d get rid of Satan and get some decent leadership here. But that won’t happen as long as the American people live in a simplistic comic book world.

  14. [email protected] Says:

    I see China,Pakistan,Russia,N.Korea,Syria,Iran,Lebanese and many in coalition for WWIII.

  15. Matt Love Says:

    It’s always amusing watching my fellow Americans talk about politics. It’s like watching 3 year olds discuss quantum physics.

    Oh, maybe Spiderman will swing in on his web and save us from the Green Goblin, do you think?

    Grow up, little ones, join the real world!

    And the Reality-Based Community, who seems to have pretty good contact with reality.

  16. Gina Says:

    Hugo Chavez is a small time, low life thug, who unfortunately has oil. If he runs into problems with Russia, or China, they will chew him up and spit him out … and, he’ll wish he had continued working with the U.S.A.. In the mean time this situation reinforces our need for energy independence. We should drill off shore now, while we continue to develop ALL alternative sources of energy.

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