Comments on: Seeking forgiveness

By: Meredith

Meredith — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:42:14 +0000

I wouldn’t call it forgiveness. They’re just trying to cover their butts for what they’ve already done. They might slip it all through too, if people don’t call them out on it.

By: sleipner

sleipner — Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:42:51 +0000

Much like many fundamentalist types – any information that runs counter to their world view is immediately attacked or ignored, or the messenger is attacked, then they go off and do what they want anyway.

By: Sean Aqui

Sean Aqui — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:06:55 +0000

Michael: Yeah. You get the distinct impression that Bush and/or Cheney don’t like being told what to do. By anybody. Nor do they like advice or facts that run counter to their pre-existing ideology.

By: Michael Reynolds

Michael Reynolds — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:20:13 +0000

Sean:
The reason they didn’t manage this like adults in advance is that they specifically wished to deny any and all limitations on their power. It was somewhere on the scale between adolescent rebellion and sheer megalomania.

By: Sean Aqui

Sean Aqui — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:55:47 +0000

Dos: They are implicitly seeking forgiveness by the simple act of seeking Congressional authorization for things that up until now they’ve insisted they needed no authorization for. Maybe they see it as merely dotting a few i’s and crossing a few t’s, but the fact is they’re only doing it because either Congress or the courts invalidated — or threatened to invalidate — the way they were doing things before.

By: DosPeros

DosPeros — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:36:05 +0000

Sean – there is no “seeking forgiveness” here, nor is there a concession of illegality in these proposed bills (with the exception of the “enemy combatant” designation, which the decision of Hamdam went so far as to suggest legislative action). This is political and legal fortification, not concession.

When I beat my children, I consider it my inherent power as their father, but I damn well ask their mother first. Usually, she says no — this in no way effects my inherent power, but it does make it political suicide to use that inherent power to beat them. See, no concession, no forgiveness, mere political fortification.