Comments on: The Hatfield’s & McCoys: Lieberman v. Lamont http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Phillip J. Birmingham http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58373 Phillip J. Birmingham Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:36:37 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58373 My apologies for mangling your name, Daniel. My apologies for mangling your name, Daniel.

]]> By: Phillip J. Birmingham http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58372 Phillip J. Birmingham Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:34:48 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58372 Oh, and by the way, Dennis, it's refreshing to see someone at least acknowledge, during their chiding, that this isn't merely the "netroots" purging a moderate candidate, but the reaping of whirlwinds that Leiberman has been planting. I disagree with you about its proportionality and wisdom, obviously, but your article evidences more thought than a lot of the articles I've seen from people who would likely never vote for Leiberman if they had a chance. Oh, and by the way, Dennis, it’s refreshing to see someone at least acknowledge, during their chiding, that this isn’t merely the “netroots” purging a moderate candidate, but the reaping of whirlwinds that Leiberman has been planting. I disagree with you about its proportionality and wisdom, obviously, but your article evidences more thought than a lot of the articles I’ve seen from people who would likely never vote for Leiberman if they had a chance.

]]> By: Durwood http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58348 Durwood Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:04:21 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58348 The problem with this country today is NOT the Republicans, who are, after all, just doing what they do best. It's the DEMOCRATS, who have apparently decided to model themselves after William Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller, who, like Joe Lieberman, were intelligent, honest and compassionate men. I like Lieberman, but if I lived in CT I'd be voting for Lamont. It would actually benefit both parties if Lieberman became a Republican. They need more men (and women) like him. If the Democrats have become marginalized, the Republican Party's been all but destroyed by Bush & the neocons, the corpos and the rabid evangelical right. That leaves us in the interesting position of being governed by goons while the opposition tries to figure out how to push the goon agenda, only softer. Like everything else in history, this has happened before. Check out what happened when Frank Nitti took over from Al Capone. If we can't do better than this we should at least insist our children learn Chinese. The problem with this country today is NOT the Republicans, who are, after all, just doing what they do best. It’s the DEMOCRATS, who have apparently decided to model themselves after William Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller, who, like Joe Lieberman, were intelligent, honest and compassionate men. I like Lieberman, but if I lived in CT I’d be voting for Lamont. It would actually benefit both parties if Lieberman became a Republican. They need more men (and women) like him. If the Democrats have become marginalized, the Republican Party’s been all but destroyed by Bush & the neocons, the corpos and the rabid evangelical right. That leaves us in the interesting position of being governed by goons while the opposition tries to figure out how to push the goon agenda, only softer. Like everything else in history, this has happened before. Check out what happened when Frank Nitti took over from Al Capone. If we can’t do better than this we should at least insist our children learn Chinese.

]]> By: Bushy http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58342 Bushy Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:37:33 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58342 Hey Jim you misspelled "constituants". I don't know who to trust. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwdH3Q54ZY Hey Jim you misspelled “constituants”. I don’t know who to trust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwdH3Q54ZY

]]> By: Jim http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58336 Jim Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:11:01 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58336 You have misstated the title of your piece, "The Hatfield’s & McCoys: Lieberman v. Lamont". The title should have been, "I’m Not A Lieberman Apologist.. but I'm going to be one anyway". And, since you seem baffled with Lamont's strength over Leiberman, let me bring you up to speed. To the electorate, Leiberman represents that which is reprehensible about the "I'm really a Republican but vote me a Democrat" members of congress. He fawns over Bush and unquestionably supports the Iraq war without caring a twit about what his constants desire or believe, ergo, Lamont's high poll ratings. If Leiberman were a trustworthy politician he would have stated that he, sadly in the beginning, was hoodwinked by Bush and the Neocons to support the Iraq War but since has slowly (after 40 months of war) come to realized that all the evidence presented to him was pure fabrication. And, that Americans are much, much less safe now than when Saddam kept the local al qaeda and the numerous internal Iraqi gangs in check. I can say Americans are much less safe because the Iraq death toll has now reached 2500 American servicemen with another 21,000 wounded - if those figures don’t scream “much less safeâ€Â? then what does. But Lieberman to his political folly is determined to continue to prop up the Bush Iraq war concoction no matter how often Bush alters the war’s justification. I say good riddance to Liberman, his constituents and American will be better off without him. You have misstated the title of your piece, “The Hatfield’s & McCoys: Lieberman v. Lamont”. The title should have been, “I’m Not A Lieberman Apologist.. but I’m going to be one anyway”. And, since you seem baffled with Lamont’s strength over Leiberman, let me bring you up to speed. To the electorate, Leiberman represents that which is reprehensible about the “I’m really a Republican but vote me a Democrat” members of congress. He fawns over Bush and unquestionably supports the Iraq war without caring a twit about what his constants desire or believe, ergo, Lamont’s high poll ratings. If Leiberman were a trustworthy politician he would have stated that he, sadly in the beginning, was hoodwinked by Bush and the Neocons to support the Iraq War but since has slowly (after 40 months of war) come to realized that all the evidence presented to him was pure fabrication. And, that Americans are much, much less safe now than when Saddam kept the local al qaeda and the numerous internal Iraqi gangs in check. I can say Americans are much less safe because the Iraq death toll has now reached 2500 American servicemen with another 21,000 wounded – if those figures don’t scream “much less safeâ€Â? then what does. But Lieberman to his political folly is determined to continue to prop up the Bush Iraq war concoction no matter how often Bush alters the war’s justification. I say good riddance to Liberman, his constituents and American will be better off without him.

]]> By: Phillip J. Birmingham http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58232 Phillip J. Birmingham Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:59:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58232 <em>P.B. just sent me a telephathic message</em> That'd better not be my mouth you're stuffing words into, bub. P.B. just sent me a telephathic message

That’d better not be my mouth you’re stuffing words into, bub.

]]> By: kilroy http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58229 kilroy Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:37:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58229 I don't think Lieberman is terrible. I don't think a primary is such a bad idea either. As i notice the national debt ticker steadily heading upwards, I figure it may be more than just the war. Price of gas, Torture, FEMA, so on. 18 years is an awful long time. If you're not responsible for our current situation, are you working to change the direction we are heading. It may well be that some folks in Connecticut may want change. It may well be that this series of tubes is bigger than some politicians know. I don’t think Lieberman is terrible. I don’t think a primary is such a bad idea either. As i notice the national debt ticker steadily heading upwards, I figure it may be more than just the war. Price of gas, Torture, FEMA, so on.

18 years is an awful long time. If you’re not responsible for our current situation, are you working to change the direction we are heading. It may well be that some folks in Connecticut may want change.

It may well be that this series of tubes is bigger than some politicians know.

]]> By: DosPeros http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58226 DosPeros Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:28:53 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58226 P.B. just sent me a telephathic message: "First, the refrigorator has fallen me and I'm trapped underneath it, please send for help. Second, if I have to read one more "poor-Joe" post I'm going to put a shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger. For God Sake!! How many times do I have to tell you -- Joe Lieberman molests children and cute animals. I would sooner eat a steaming bowel of camel excrement than have anything to do with that backstabb'in A-hole. He's not just Republican-lite, he's Rush Limbaugh's cabanna boy. On weekends he goes down to Crawford, TX and lets Bush & Co. dress him up like Shirley Temple and he sings 'Good Ship Lollipop' while they throw darts at him....God this frig is heavey...please help...but if you send Lieberman, forget it, just let me die." End of message. P.B. just sent me a telephathic message:

“First, the refrigorator has fallen me and I’m trapped underneath it, please send for help. Second, if I have to read one more “poor-Joe” post I’m going to put a shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger. For God Sake!! How many times do I have to tell you — Joe Lieberman molests children and cute animals. I would sooner eat a steaming bowel of camel excrement than have anything to do with that backstabb’in A-hole. He’s not just Republican-lite, he’s Rush Limbaugh’s cabanna boy. On weekends he goes down to Crawford, TX and lets Bush & Co. dress him up like Shirley Temple and he sings ‘Good Ship Lollipop’ while they throw darts at him….God this frig is heavey…please help…but if you send Lieberman, forget it, just let me die.”

End of message.

]]> By: Because.. http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58222 Because.. Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:16:20 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58222 How very cautious, centrist, and DLC-ish of you all. Yes, we saw how well the cautious, moderate approach worked for us in the 2000 and 2004 elections right? Hmm should we continue trying to act like Republicans, or run Democrats who aren't afraid to be Democrats? Why run Ned? Umm... because there's no difference between Joe and a Republican? Seriously, why are you worried about the possibility of losing Joe's seat and it potentially being harder to get a Dem majority? You do realize that a 51-49 Dem majority that includes Lieberman is the same as a 50-50 split right? This article is nothing more than a ringing endorsement of "Business as usual" and a continuation of the tired old DLC-ish strategy of "be all things to all people at all times." It doesn't work. Joe's political career is over, at least as a Democrat. What do you care more about? Democratic/progressive values, or the maintenance of the status quo? I'm pretty sure I know... How very cautious, centrist, and DLC-ish of you all. Yes, we saw how well the cautious, moderate approach worked for us in the 2000 and 2004 elections right? Hmm should we continue trying to act like Republicans, or run Democrats who aren’t afraid to be Democrats?

Why run Ned? Umm… because there’s no difference between Joe and a Republican?

Seriously, why are you worried about the possibility of losing Joe’s seat and it potentially being harder to get a Dem majority?

You do realize that a 51-49 Dem majority that includes Lieberman is the same as a 50-50 split right?

This article is nothing more than a ringing endorsement of “Business as usual” and a continuation of the tired old DLC-ish strategy of “be all things to all people at all times.” It doesn’t work. Joe’s political career is over, at least as a Democrat.

What do you care more about? Democratic/progressive values, or the maintenance of the status quo?

I’m pretty sure I know…

]]> By: Meredith http://donklephant.com/2006/08/03/the-hatfields-mccoys-lieberman-v-lamont/comment-page-1/#comment-58203 Meredith Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:05:05 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=2492#comment-58203 Indeed. I don't really like Lieberman, but this looks like another Democrat dumb move. We do have a lot of other more important things to do, and it might turn off some people who we can't afford to turn off. Indeed. I don’t really like Lieberman, but this looks like another Democrat dumb move. We do have a lot of other more important things to do, and it might turn off some people who we can’t afford to turn off.

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