All of those who believe Hezbollah and HAMAS are poor little victims are falling for Marxist propaganda and “victimizing” any of those who oppose Western Culture. Read history people!! Those terrorists fighting for the destruction of Israel are Fascists!!! They supported Hitler!!! That is a historical fact. They are Fascists using a Maoist/Marxist style of warfare complete with brainwashing the weak minded and victimization propaganda. Hezbollah, Baathists (Syria and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq), HAMAS, some other Palestinian organizations, the government of Iran, all want Israel to no longer exist. I haven’t found a link from Iran, but all of the other organizations have links to the German Nazi Party. (read history books, it’s there) Does anyone know that the term “Iranian race” is related to the term Aryan race?

I know why people hate Americans. America still has people who have the ability to think for themselves. We haven’t been completely brainwashed by Marxist propaganda. Though we are fast heading in that direction.

Before you think I am a right wing nut who hates Islam, think again. My in-laws are Muslim and even they hate those crazy people in Hezbollah, HAMAS, etc. They dislike Israel because they dislike Jews as well, but do not wish for their destruction. They think Jews and Muslims should leave peacefully together. I believe that is how most Muslims believe. They just want to live a peaceful life.

I’m not proposing any particular policy, just a particular mindset. If it’s a political rather than militaristic solution, than so be it. I don’t have much faith in this current agreement doing anything of much value but maybe I’m wrong.

Conservative Republican,

Feel free to call me foolish, but please don’t accuse me of regurgitating Republican talking points. That’s a cheap shot meant to make me seem incapable of orginal or constructive thought. I am not and have never claimed to be a neo-con, so your label is wrongly applied. Besides, your definition of “neo-con” is overly simplisitc. It’s not actually about war-mongering, if you pay attention to what real neo-cons say and not just want opponents say about them. It is about some rather flighty ideas concerning human nature and democracy, but that’s probably because neo-cons are actually an off-shoot of liberalism, not conservativism. But this isn’t the venue for a debate on definitions. I’ll just say that labeling all militaristic force with the pergorative use of “neo-con” is just obfuscating rather than advancing the debate.

Mr. Carl what are you proposing with this statement? What did you have in mind?

The proposed UN force that will be going in shortly, I believe, is suppose to disarm Hizbollah. I’ll believe that when I see it.

What the Arab-Israeli conflict needs is a political solution. It is the only thing that will defeat the terroist threat, which as you point out is asymetrical warfare and very difficult to defeat with conventional military methods.

What about all those rockets fired randomly into Isreali cites?

Since 2001 The Republican Administration has imposed the international rules regarding diplomacy, military solutions, the conduct of preemptive wars, and the enforcement and lack of enforcement of international law. The international community has been basically a bystander with nothing to gain by getting involved with the Americans. The administration, with international support, did well in Afghanistan in ousting the Taliban. It inflated, not really misjudged, the danger that Iraq posed to the United States, and decided to go it alone in a conquest to spread democracy–e.g. a system of representatives elected periodically by the people in free elections.

It has not worked in Iraq yet but the Palestinians and Lebanese have had an election. The fact that the neocons in Israel and the United States did not like the results is not the fault of the International community or of those people electing these anarchists. If you consider democratic elections the norm by which civilized nations should conduct themselves then why not try diplomacy with these freely elected terrorists, instead of refusing any diplomatic contact to force them to change their ways or else face destruction. Instead neocon propaganda depicts these people as subhuman and plot preemptive wars to destroy them. These wars end up supporting the continued existence of terrorist groups.

President Bush was rightly maligned for his statement “you are either with us or with the terrorists”. It is narrow minded demagoguery and fear mongering at its best.

You claim that the world did not support Israel. If you are right, the reason probably is that supporting another neocon preemptive war is not the way to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict.

Some time ago, it seems too long now, any Israeli leader could have started a preemptive war to finish off once and for all its Arab enemies and most likely would have been successful, since his muslim neighbors were as weak as ever, he had at his command overwhelming military superiority and his country had never lost a war with the Arabs. This particular Israeli leader did not pursue war, but rather used diplomacy and negotiated a proposed interim self-government with the Palestinians and the first stage of its implementation. He also signed the Israeli-Jordan peace treaty. Unfortunately the life of Yitzhak Rabin was cut short by a budding neocon, like the ones we have suffered for years now, who are more interested in war, than in trying to put these elected terrorists on the spot through an attempt at diplomacy

Not everybody in Israel supports this cowboy prime minister’s performance in this war, or the war itself. He could be out of a job in the not distant future. The neocon blitzkrieg preemptive wars, usually started on false premises of blind destruction and conquest end up causing instability, deteriorating national security and bringing suffering to all involved.

Israel lost and we lost. Iran won. Again.

Oh yeah, one more thing, yes, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. And what do you do with terrorists, you kill them.

As long as there are nations willing to harbor terrorist organizations (Sudan, Afghanistan) or unable to expel them (Lebanon), there’s no way to “win� these engagements. As long as there are a large number of people willing to buy into the terrorist propaganda (see comments 2 and 3), there’s no such thing as a pyrrhic victory. They survived, gained prestige, they’ll replenish their numbers. It’s one more reason for me to hate what we’ve done in Iraq, because we squandered a great opportunity to change these rules.

And by the cease fire that isreal accepted showed that they don’t want to figt anymore because hezbollah is too strong of a force!

الا ان حزب الله هم الغالبون
ya, israel accepted cease fire coz it wished it, hizballah not a terrorist organizatin, terror is us and israel AND YOU KNOW THAT VERU WELL,

Hizballah are lebaneese ppl defensing for thier land, for lebaneese prisoner in israel’s prisons, which are turtored there!

Hizballah never loose, coz they have rights, they are lebaneese ppl, usa want that or not… they are lebaneese ppl and will keep alive

how many childrens, women and civillians killed by israel?
hizballah when they fight, they killed SOLDIERS attacking lebanon, not civilians as israel did and destoyed lebanon’s infrastructure

please when you judge, judge well. and see world’s media, NOT your cnn and fox, just try.