Comments on: Iraq Option(s) http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: DosPeros http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/comment-page-1/#comment-62030 DosPeros Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:22:48 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/#comment-62030 I think the time has come for the US to pull back into well fortified military bases in Iraq and await developements in Iran. We should say that duty and democracy has been established and that the current blood shed is no more that long standing rivalries (about 13 centuries) and that the Iraqi society will have to work this out on its own. I think the time has come for the US to pull back into well fortified military bases in Iraq and await developements in Iran.

We should say that duty and democracy has been established and that the current blood shed is no more that long standing rivalries (about 13 centuries) and that the Iraqi society will have to work this out on its own.

]]> By: Mikkel http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/comment-page-1/#comment-61902 Mikkel Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:30:48 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/#comment-61902 "Reload and Do It Right" has not even the beginning of specifics and falsely implies that a plan that would have worked the first time will still work. If we could "Rewind and Do It Right" then I'd say that was a good plan. Perhaps we should ask all the Iraqis to revert back to the pre-invasion state so we can start over. It does make a good mantra though which could become dangerously in vogue. My favorite snarky comment about mantras came from the Confederate Yankee (def pro-war) blog "When they stand up we stand down is a nursery rhyme, not a strategy." “Reload and Do It Right” has not even the beginning of specifics and falsely implies that a plan that would have worked the first time will still work. If we could “Rewind and Do It Right” then I’d say that was a good plan. Perhaps we should ask all the Iraqis to revert back to the pre-invasion state so we can start over. It does make a good mantra though which could become dangerously in vogue. My favorite snarky comment about mantras came from the Confederate Yankee (def pro-war) blog “When they stand up we stand down is a nursery rhyme, not a strategy.”

]]> By: wj http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/comment-page-1/#comment-61883 wj Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:50:10 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/#comment-61883 7 years hence (and optimistically): - Shia control everything in Iraq except Kurdistan. They have set up their own theocracy . . . and are in fierce (but so far non-military) competition with Iran for leadership of world Islam (as the two of them see it), or Shia Islam (as the rest of the Islamic world sees it). - Iraqi Sunnis would have discovered that they weren't a majority after all, except that now the few who are left barely count as a minority. As a result, they (or their refugees, to be accurate) complain bitterly that the US didn't put _more_ troops in originally and suppress the various insurgencies. - The US has a lone base remaining in northern Iraq (among the Kurds). Primarily this has the purpose of discouraging the Turks from invading. - The US has moved towards isolationism, not to mention trade protectionism. With the predictable bad effects on the national economy. The rest of the world discovers that a major American recession doesn't do their economies any good either. - The US President has reprised Lend/Lease to get the Israelis a couple of nuclear subs to park their nuclear missiles on. The Iranian government has ground its teeth . . . and replaced its President with someone who isn't likely to seek martyrdom for its own sake. 7 years hence (and optimistically):
- Shia control everything in Iraq except Kurdistan. They have set up their own theocracy . . . and are in fierce (but so far non-military) competition with Iran for leadership of world Islam (as the two of them see it), or Shia Islam (as the rest of the Islamic world sees it).
- Iraqi Sunnis would have discovered that they weren’t a majority after all, except that now the few who are left barely count as a minority. As a result, they (or their refugees, to be accurate) complain bitterly that the US didn’t put _more_ troops in originally and suppress the various insurgencies.
- The US has a lone base remaining in northern Iraq (among the Kurds). Primarily this has the purpose of discouraging the Turks from invading.
- The US has moved towards isolationism, not to mention trade protectionism. With the predictable bad effects on the national economy. The rest of the world discovers that a major American recession doesn’t do their economies any good either.
- The US President has reprised Lend/Lease to get the Israelis a couple of nuclear subs to park their nuclear missiles on. The Iranian government has ground its teeth . . . and replaced its President with someone who isn’t likely to seek martyrdom for its own sake.

]]> By: Chuck http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/comment-page-1/#comment-61814 Chuck Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:26:04 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/16/iraq-options/#comment-61814 7 more years ?? Even when war mongers finally realize Iraq is a giant mess you still do not address the major problem !! Lousy leaders !! You all have been saying nothing while countless errors were made, and now you wonder what to do. You will still support every dumb idea the administration dreams up from la la land. Give up !! Stop trying to figure out anything. Stop writing and get a new job. Something you are good at. I could have told you 2 years ago what would happen. 7 year prediction : administration will continue same path, error followed by error. Iraq will split into 3. Iran will gain. Terrorists will be in the new Sunni land. Kurds will be relatively peaceful but still anti-israel as will the entire mideast. There will be more anti American countries. If you are going to continue writing, push for new leaders. 7 more years ?? Even when war mongers finally realize Iraq is a giant mess you still do not address the major problem !!
Lousy leaders !! You all have been saying nothing while countless errors were made, and now you wonder what to do. You will still support every dumb idea the administration dreams up from
la la land. Give up !! Stop trying to figure out anything. Stop writing and get a new job. Something you are good at. I could have told you 2 years ago what would happen.
7 year prediction : administration will continue same path, error followed by error. Iraq will split into 3. Iran will gain.
Terrorists will be in the new Sunni land. Kurds will be relatively peaceful but still anti-israel as will the entire mideast. There will be more anti American countries. If you are going to continue writing, push for new leaders.

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