Comments on: They Hoped? http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brian in MA http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62469 Brian in MA Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:53:59 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62469 A few notes: A UN peacekeeping force is neither a force nor does it keep peace. In general it just flounders there uselessly and rapes the indigenous peoples, while avoiding criticism from newspapers who, just as they treat communists and dictators (all communists are dictators, but not all dictators are communists), believe the ideals of the UN nullify the evils perpetrated by it. I'd trust the local NRA 142 to do the job better than anything sent in blue helmets. They are better armed, better trained, and have a moral backbone. Honestly we should have just supported Isreal to the hilt. It isn't like the UN can do anything but shriek "CEASEFIRE" like scared schoolgirls. What would they do? Send an army to stop the IDF from beating the snot out of Hezbollah? Don't make me laugh. The only thing the UN does is create paper tigers called resolutions that are misnamed, as they have never resolved anything, and are patently ignored by the dictators and terrorists they apply to within an hour of their signing. Isreal will fight the war the UN, and sadly, America, won't fight. Isreal realizes their very lives and society are at stake and if they fail, Isreal will cease to exist. If only we had the fortitude of Isreal and wern't held back by all this politically correct nonsense, we could win this war. The Nazis and the Japanese wern't defeated by political correctness and half-assed fighting with calls for diplomacy, they were defeated by outright slaughtering them wherever we could untill they gave up, and we had to nuke Japan twice before they gave in, after expulsing them from cames by sending Flamethrowers down there. Osama as much said so himself: Cause American casualties and America will cut and run, cut and run, cut and run... or, as Murtha would tell us: "Selectively redeploy", or "Build a Timetable for Withdrawl". A few notes:

A UN peacekeeping force is neither a force nor does it keep peace. In general it just flounders there uselessly and rapes the indigenous peoples, while avoiding criticism from newspapers who, just as they treat communists and dictators (all communists are dictators, but not all dictators are communists), believe the ideals of the UN nullify the evils perpetrated by it. I’d trust the local NRA 142 to do the job better than anything sent in blue helmets. They are better armed, better trained, and have a moral backbone.

Honestly we should have just supported Isreal to the hilt. It isn’t like the UN can do anything but shriek “CEASEFIRE” like scared schoolgirls. What would they do? Send an army to stop the IDF from beating the snot out of Hezbollah? Don’t make me laugh. The only thing the UN does is create paper tigers called resolutions that are misnamed, as they have never resolved anything, and are patently ignored by the dictators and terrorists they apply to within an hour of their signing.

Isreal will fight the war the UN, and sadly, America, won’t fight. Isreal realizes their very lives and society are at stake and if they fail, Isreal will cease to exist. If only we had the fortitude of Isreal and wern’t held back by all this politically correct nonsense, we could win this war. The Nazis and the Japanese wern’t defeated by political correctness and half-assed fighting with calls for diplomacy, they were defeated by outright slaughtering them wherever we could untill they gave up, and we had to nuke Japan twice before they gave in, after expulsing them from cames by sending Flamethrowers down there.

Osama as much said so himself: Cause American casualties and America will cut and run, cut and run, cut and run… or, as Murtha would tell us: “Selectively redeploy”, or “Build a Timetable for Withdrawl”.

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By: Kevin http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62468 Kevin Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:48:57 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62468 I was going to write and say that there might be some sense to what seciton 9 is saying above. That this is window dressing to give Isreal time to re-adjust their strategy before the conflict starts back up. Then I read about the money that Hezbollah (Iran) is pumping Southern Lebannon. If this is a timeout, Hezbollah is using it very wisely. Their base and support in Southern Lebannon is likely more secure now as a result. While the UN was dithering they were puting foot to pavement (rubble) and winning heart and minds. I was going to write and say that there might be some sense to what seciton 9 is saying above. That this is window dressing to give Isreal time to re-adjust their strategy before the conflict starts back up.

Then I read about the money that Hezbollah (Iran) is pumping Southern Lebannon. If this is a timeout, Hezbollah is using it very wisely. Their base and support in Southern Lebannon is likely more secure now as a result. While the UN was dithering they were puting foot to pavement (rubble) and winning heart and minds.

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By: Jeff B. http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62465 Jeff B. Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:39:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62465 This is just the problem with the UN always having to do this stuff on the fly. They need an permanent peacekeeping force that is always available, with countries annually guaranteeing to make a certain number of troops available for any mission. This is just the problem with the UN always having to do this stuff on the fly. They need an permanent peacekeeping force that is always available, with countries annually guaranteeing to make a certain number of troops available for any mission.

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By: Eclectic Floridian http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62397 Eclectic Floridian Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:07:31 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62397 How many French troops does it take to defend Paris? No one knows, it's never been tried. How many French troops does it take to defend Paris?

No one knows, it’s never been tried.

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By: Bob J Young http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62390 Bob J Young Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:16:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62390 “And on that basis they imposed a defeat on the Israelis and salvaged Hezbollah?� A cease fire occurs because both sides think it is in their favor. Do you really think that Israel would have stopped if they thought they could win? It was becoming obvious that they would have to re-occupy Lebanon, an that was something they didn't want to do. As for the French, I would bet that the warring parties make certain agreements, but when it came time to pony up they reneged. Unless both parties agree to stop fighting you have to insane to get between them. Something changed in the dynamics of the cease fire. It will probably be a couple of months before we find out what that “something� was. “And on that basis they imposed a defeat on the Israelis and salvaged Hezbollah?�

A cease fire occurs because both sides think it is in their favor. Do you really think that Israel would have stopped if they thought they could win? It was becoming obvious that they would have to re-occupy Lebanon, an that was something they didn’t want to do.

As for the French, I would bet that the warring parties make certain agreements, but when it came time to pony up they reneged. Unless both parties agree to stop fighting you have to insane to get between them. Something changed in the dynamics of the cease fire. It will probably be a couple of months before we find out what that “something� was.

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By: rbezold http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62326 rbezold Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:43:44 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62326 I agree with Brian. This is sop for the french. I've seen it before. Condi not coming out and saying it is probably just a way of trying to keep a bad situation from becoming worse. OTOH... Was a truce between Hezbollah and Israel something Bush & Co. really wanted? If not, then Condi is no incompetent. She played the french like a fiddle, knowing she could rely on them to backstab. It just depends on who REALLY wanted the fighting to stop and who didn't. I agree with Brian. This is sop for the french. I’ve seen it before. Condi not coming out and saying it is probably just a way of trying to keep a bad situation from becoming worse.

OTOH… Was a truce between Hezbollah and Israel something Bush & Co. really wanted? If not, then Condi is no incompetent. She played the french like a fiddle, knowing she could rely on them to backstab.

It just depends on who REALLY wanted the fighting to stop and who didn’t.

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By: section9 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62288 section9 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:55:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62288 No friend. When you have an incompetent Israeli Government that is setting new records for how to screw up a military campaign, you do what Condi did, call halftime. War continues in the Second Half under new IDF Coaching Staff. This resolution not designed to succeed. You were expecting Shi'a National Socialist Movement in Southern Lebanon to buy seats on the board of Women's American Ort, perhaps? Try to understand that Condi knows she is inviting Reinhard Heydrich to Bat Mitzvah. In next round, IDF takes out irritating Boy President of Damascus who right now is fantasizing about starting his own Hezboallah Franchise to take back Golan. Like McDonalds. Nasrallah finds out he's not so Butch; out on street with tin cup. Local Arab Sunni Oil States treat him like dogdirt for consorting with Persian invader. You watch, you see. No friend. When you have an incompetent Israeli Government that is setting new records for how to screw up a military campaign, you do what Condi did, call halftime.

War continues in the Second Half under new IDF Coaching Staff. This resolution not designed to succeed. You were expecting Shi’a National Socialist Movement in Southern Lebanon to buy seats on the board of Women’s American Ort, perhaps?

Try to understand that Condi knows she is inviting Reinhard Heydrich to Bat Mitzvah. In next round, IDF takes out irritating Boy President of Damascus who right now is fantasizing about starting his own Hezboallah Franchise to take back Golan. Like McDonalds. Nasrallah finds out he’s not so Butch; out on street with tin cup. Local Arab Sunni Oil States treat him like dogdirt for consorting with Persian invader. You watch, you see.

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By: BrianOfAtlanta http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/comment-page-1/#comment-62279 BrianOfAtlanta Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:01:28 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/08/17/they-hoped/#comment-62279 The French backing out of a fight and leaving their allies stranded on the proverbial beach? Maybe Condi blew this one, but on the other hand, this is pretty much SOP for the French. The French backing out of a fight and leaving their allies stranded on the proverbial beach? Maybe Condi blew this one, but on the other hand, this is pretty much SOP for the French.

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