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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70629</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin said:  &quot;I have to ask, did Ahmenijad just finish picking his nose when this picture was taken. He sure looks like heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s admiring his handiwork.&quot;

LOL Kevin.  I agree with you.

Iran certainly is a problem.  But, instead of arguing about whether it is a small, medium or large problem, why not have a discussion about how we handle it.  I know that size does matter in determining the best solution, but not that much, unless they are going to be able to nuke someone in the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin said:  &#8220;I have to ask, did Ahmenijad just finish picking his nose when this picture was taken. He sure looks like heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s admiring his handiwork.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL Kevin.  I agree with you.</p>
<p>Iran certainly is a problem.  But, instead of arguing about whether it is a small, medium or large problem, why not have a discussion about how we handle it.  I know that size does matter in determining the best solution, but not that much, unless they are going to be able to nuke someone in the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70481</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to ask, did Ahmenijad just finish picking his nose when this picture was taken.  He sure looks like he&#039;s admiring his handiwork.

As for ZakariaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s article, I also think heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s playing down IranÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s ability to be disruptive too much.  Whether itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Ahmenijad or the Mullahs calling the shots, Iran is using oil money and proxies to destabilize things in the Middle East already.  Adding nuclear weapons to that mix is a scary proposition because, at a minimum, it renders Iran ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œinvasion proofÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? and it gives then the means to extort the West more effectively.  The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany are poor comparisons because their aims were more immediate.  IranÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s leaders are in it for the long haul.  

I agree with the conclusion though.  We can contain Iran if weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re patient.  Responding to them with (empty?) threats only strengthens their position domestically and in the Islamic community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to ask, did Ahmenijad just finish picking his nose when this picture was taken.  He sure looks like he&#8217;s admiring his handiwork.</p>
<p>As for ZakariaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s article, I also think heÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s playing down IranÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s ability to be disruptive too much.  Whether itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Ahmenijad or the Mullahs calling the shots, Iran is using oil money and proxies to destabilize things in the Middle East already.  Adding nuclear weapons to that mix is a scary proposition because, at a minimum, it renders Iran ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œinvasion proofÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? and it gives then the means to extort the West more effectively.  The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany are poor comparisons because their aims were more immediate.  IranÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s leaders are in it for the long haul.  </p>
<p>I agree with the conclusion though.  We can contain Iran if weÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re patient.  Responding to them with (empty?) threats only strengthens their position domestically and in the Islamic community.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70431</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, Hear to Bob.  Besides, Islamic Radicals always seem to find a grievance they consider provocation requiring a response; They may start some conventional military campaign or unprecidented wave of terrorism, drawing the world into a larger conflict and threatening nukes as leverage, othen find some way to justify using them.

We invaded Afghanistan to destroy the terror state there and to change the regime into a terror-fighting one.  That would be impossible to do against a nuclear-armed Iran.  They would be able to harbor a thousand Osama Bin-Ladens.

We can ignore Ahmadinajad when he says he would,  &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525940677&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;sacrifice half of Iran for the sake of eliminating Israel,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; or brush aside his apocalyptic ravings about how the messiah will come in 2 years. We can all play Justin&#039;s game where we think we know more about Amad&#039;s motivations than he does, but  isn&#039;t that just crossing your fingers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, Hear to Bob.  Besides, Islamic Radicals always seem to find a grievance they consider provocation requiring a response; They may start some conventional military campaign or unprecidented wave of terrorism, drawing the world into a larger conflict and threatening nukes as leverage, othen find some way to justify using them.</p>
<p>We invaded Afghanistan to destroy the terror state there and to change the regime into a terror-fighting one.  That would be impossible to do against a nuclear-armed Iran.  They would be able to harbor a thousand Osama Bin-Ladens.</p>
<p>We can ignore Ahmadinajad when he says he would,  <a href='http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525940677&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull' >&#8220;sacrifice half of Iran for the sake of eliminating Israel,&#8221;</a> or brush aside his apocalyptic ravings about how the messiah will come in 2 years. We can all play Justin&#8217;s game where we think we know more about Amad&#8217;s motivations than he does, but  isn&#8217;t that just crossing your fingers?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob is right - Iran would maintain the fig leaf of plausible deniability (&quot;no, &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; didn&#039;t nuke tel aviv, but we think the people who did are great&quot;), but make no mistake, their rhetoric is not only figurative - when they talk about wiping Israel from the map and forcibly converting the USA, they mean it literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob is right &#8211; Iran would maintain the fig leaf of plausible deniability (&#8220;no, <i>we</i> didn&#8217;t nuke tel aviv, but we think the people who did are great&#8221;), but make no mistake, their rhetoric is not only figurative &#8211; when they talk about wiping Israel from the map and forcibly converting the USA, they mean it literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Aman</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70305</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real question for me has usually been, &quot;Is Iran bold enough to arm Hezbollah with nukes?&quot;  (And similarly, &quot;Is there anyone in Pakistan fanatical enough to gift Al Qaeda with a nuke?&quot;)  I agree that Iran would probably never attempt a missle attack on Israel, but I&#039;m not anywhere near as convinced that they wouldn&#039;t attempt a nuclear attack by proxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question for me has usually been, &#8220;Is Iran bold enough to arm Hezbollah with nukes?&#8221;  (And similarly, &#8220;Is there anyone in Pakistan fanatical enough to gift Al Qaeda with a nuke?&#8221;)  I agree that Iran would probably never attempt a missle attack on Israel, but I&#8217;m not anywhere near as convinced that they wouldn&#8217;t attempt a nuclear attack by proxy.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Wishard</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70304</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Wishard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Washington has a long habit of painting its enemies 10 feet tallÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬?and crazy. During the cold war, many hawks argued that the Soviet Union could not be deterred because the Kremlin was evil and irrational. The great debate in the 1970s was between the CIAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s wimpy estimate of Soviet military power and the neoconservativesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ more nightmarish scenario. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s a one-paragraph cartoon history of the Cold War for you.  I&#039;m sure liberals find it instantly convincing because it paints the crazy neoconservatives as the villians.   And everybody knows that the communists fell because the anti-Western left hugged them to death.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iran does not even rank among the top 20 economies in the world. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Iran&#039;s poverty and political instability, when combined with Islamism, make it more dangerous, not less.   By the way, how does the economic power of the Iraqi insurgency stack up against ours?

&lt;blockquote&gt;If we could contain the Soviet Union, we can contain Iran. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This gets back to Zakaria&#039;s fantasy history of the Cold War, which is totally false.  Nobody ever accused the Soviets of wanting to unleash a nuclear weapon, or even of being irrational.   Ahmenijad is exactly the nightmare that anti-proliferationists have been dreading all these years.  

He&#039;s right that diplomatic pressure can bring Iran around - unless people start soft-pedalling the vile Ahmenijad the way they did Saddam Hussein.  Hussein could have been brought to heel if Europe and the UN had not flatly refused to do so, because he stroked their anti-Americanism.   And their wallets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Washington has a long habit of painting its enemies 10 feet tallÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬?and crazy. During the cold war, many hawks argued that the Soviet Union could not be deterred because the Kremlin was evil and irrational. The great debate in the 1970s was between the CIAÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s wimpy estimate of Soviet military power and the neoconservativesÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ more nightmarish scenario. </p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a one-paragraph cartoon history of the Cold War for you.  I&#8217;m sure liberals find it instantly convincing because it paints the crazy neoconservatives as the villians.   And everybody knows that the communists fell because the anti-Western left hugged them to death.</p>
<blockquote><p>Iran does not even rank among the top 20 economies in the world. </p></blockquote>
<p>Iran&#8217;s poverty and political instability, when combined with Islamism, make it more dangerous, not less.   By the way, how does the economic power of the Iraqi insurgency stack up against ours?</p>
<blockquote><p>If we could contain the Soviet Union, we can contain Iran. </p></blockquote>
<p>This gets back to Zakaria&#8217;s fantasy history of the Cold War, which is totally false.  Nobody ever accused the Soviets of wanting to unleash a nuclear weapon, or even of being irrational.   Ahmenijad is exactly the nightmare that anti-proliferationists have been dreading all these years.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s right that diplomatic pressure can bring Iran around &#8211; unless people start soft-pedalling the vile Ahmenijad the way they did Saddam Hussein.  Hussein could have been brought to heel if Europe and the UN had not flatly refused to do so, because he stroked their anti-Americanism.   And their wallets.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ok, how about if we replace ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œbecause theyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re crazyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? with ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œbecause they are sincere religious people, who believe God is on their side and will protect them in their war against the Infidel, and even if they die, they are rewarded for dying in combat.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What about the complete annilhilation of an entire country by nuclear strikes from the US, Israel, the UK, etc.? What about that? Are you telling me that Iran would seriously go through with its big talk even though they know it&#039;ll bring down a firestorm on their heads?

&lt;blockquote&gt;So I have to wonder out loud: who is the real threat to the world?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Islamic extremists are the real threat. It&#039;s true that our foreign policy decisions and execution of those plans don&#039;t engender much faith, but please don&#039;t confuse the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ok, how about if we replace ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œbecause theyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re crazyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? with ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œbecause they are sincere religious people, who believe God is on their side and will protect them in their war against the Infidel, and even if they die, they are rewarded for dying in combat.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?</p></blockquote>
<p>What about the complete annilhilation of an entire country by nuclear strikes from the US, Israel, the UK, etc.? What about that? Are you telling me that Iran would seriously go through with its big talk even though they know it&#8217;ll bring down a firestorm on their heads?</p>
<blockquote><p>So I have to wonder out loud: who is the real threat to the world?</p></blockquote>
<p>Islamic extremists are the real threat. It&#8217;s true that our foreign policy decisions and execution of those plans don&#8217;t engender much faith, but please don&#8217;t confuse the two.</p>
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		<title>By: hass</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/04/some-perspective-on-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-70286</link>
		<dc:creator>hass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it is Bush who thinks God is on his side ... and lets not forget that it was Bush who openly declared that nuking Iran was an &quot;option&quot;...and it is the US&#039;s official position (declared in the Nuclear Posture Review) to use nukes on a first-strike basis against even non-nuclear armed states. In fact that&#039;s why the US is developing user-friendly &quot;mini-nukes&quot;. So while we can scaremonger a lot about Iran&#039;sambiguous &quot;nuclear ambitions&quot; which the IAEA has inspected and found no &quot;weapons&quot;, the real honest-to-goodness nukes are in the hands of Bush and the Israelis (note how much they cared about civilian lives in Lebanon) 

Oh, and there&#039;s the little matter of how the US armed Saddam with chemical weapons and Rumsfeld was shaking his hands while he was busy gassing the Kurds....

So I have to wonder out loud: who is the real threat to the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it is Bush who thinks God is on his side &#8230; and lets not forget that it was Bush who openly declared that nuking Iran was an &#8220;option&#8221;&#8230;and it is the US&#8217;s official position (declared in the Nuclear Posture Review) to use nukes on a first-strike basis against even non-nuclear armed states. In fact that&#8217;s why the US is developing user-friendly &#8220;mini-nukes&#8221;. So while we can scaremonger a lot about Iran&#8217;sambiguous &#8220;nuclear ambitions&#8221; which the IAEA has inspected and found no &#8220;weapons&#8221;, the real honest-to-goodness nukes are in the hands of Bush and the Israelis (note how much they cared about civilian lives in Lebanon) </p>
<p>Oh, and there&#8217;s the little matter of how the US armed Saddam with chemical weapons and Rumsfeld was shaking his hands while he was busy gassing the Kurds&#8230;.</p>
<p>So I have to wonder out loud: who is the real threat to the world?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, how about if we replace &quot;because they&#039;re crazy&quot; with &quot;because they are sincere religious people, who believe God is on their side and will protect them in their war against the Infidel, and even if they die, they are rewarded for dying in combat.&quot;

Honestly, don&#039;t assume that everyone in the world thinks the way you do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, how about if we replace &#8220;because they&#8217;re crazy&#8221; with &#8220;because they are sincere religious people, who believe God is on their side and will protect them in their war against the Infidel, and even if they die, they are rewarded for dying in combat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly, don&#8217;t assume that everyone in the world thinks the way you do&#8230;</p>
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