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alexking.org: Blog > Around the web — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:56:29 +0000

[...] Easy Choice. [...]

By: ChrisO

ChrisO — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:29:38 +0000

A red herring argument is the response from Bush supporters when we say that these measures will only endanger our own soldiers. The response is invariably along the lines of “al Qaeda doesn’t take prisoners, and the ones they do get beheaded.” Well a strong possibility exists that we could have troops on the ground in Iran in the next couple of years (like it or not.) I sincrely doubt that the Iranian military will behead any prisoners. This is the kind of shortsighted thinking that has allowed Bush to make such a hash of things.

By: Eural

Eural — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:20:08 +0000

I’m not disagreeing that many of the issues you raise aren’t silly – hey, I thought the strike on the funeral should have been taken. But when the vast majority of military and intelligence establishment are speaking against the President’s “definitions” I tend to think they know what they are talking about. And Bush never does. (For instance, just today he denied claiming a link between Zarqawi and Saddam. Even though he is on record doing just that several times in the past year or two. His either that incompetent or a pathological liar. Neither one is desireable in our national leader.)

BTW, there were more graphic and violent uses of “torture” than the silly examples you named. Prisoners chained to the floor in feces, several dozen cases of potential homicide, etc. We aren’t talking just about a few spotlight examples but our armed forces worldwide.

Finally, aren’t we the civilized side in this fight who are supposed to be standing for something other than barbaric depravity? You may argue that means we’re fighting with “one hand” tied behind our backs – so be it. At least we’re fighting for something worth defending. If you disagree, join the other side who think torture and inhumanity should be standard procedure. That’s why they’re called the Bad Guys and we’re the Good Guys. (Sure, Gandalf could have used the Ring to win but in the process it would have ultimately corrupted his soul and the battle would be lost. Notice a similarity, here?)

By: Jimmy the Dhimmi

Jimmy the Dhimmi — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:13:22 +0000

I guess we need another debate about whether Red Hot Chilli Pepper’s music and a cold floor is torture. Or eating a prisoner’s peanut butter in front of them, or guards not wearing gloves when handling Korans, or a lap dance from an attractive, menstruating cadet; ect…

Man, wasn’t there a post here just a minute ago about refraining from attacking a cemetary full of Taliban because the U.S. doesn’t want to offend Muslim sensibilities?

We are handing victory over to the terrorists because we hate Bush more than we hate jihad.

By: Eural

Eural — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:58:32 +0000

Well, Jimmy, I’ve got two friends just back from a year and half tours – one in Iraq and one in Afghanistan – and they both said the same thing about Bush and his pro-torture stance. They (and most of the soldiers they worked with) said it was a danger to them, it was immoral, it was un-American and Bush was a douchebag for continuing to spout this nonsense.

Furthermore a multitude of former intelligence and military guys have come out and said its not an effective means of gathering reliable information. To do that requires actual work and persistance, something this ADD afflicted administration is not real good at.

Furthermore, Bush supports it and based on his track record as President I think we all know how much we can trust his judgement on these issues.

Easy choice for me.

By: Jimmy the Dhimmi

Jimmy the Dhimmi — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:33:00 +0000

I’ve got a friend who was an Army Ranger during Moghadishu in 1993. He was unloading the bodies of his fellow rangers from the helicopters when just a few hours earlier he was wishing them well as they were getting on.

He told me that Colin powell is a douchebag who has no clue about the current threat we are facing. He said Colin Powell is a dinosaur with a vietnam-era worldview that the US military must be a lumbering conventional force that cannot engage in counter-insurgency; that giving terrorists geneva-convention rights simply legitimizes terrorism as a form of acceptable combat.

Easy choice for me.

By: rachel

rachel — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:25:47 +0000

A nation that followed Pat’s ideas would be an evil nation: a great Satan, one could say. Way to go and prove the Muslim extremists right, Pat

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:25:50 +0000

So let me get this straight. Genocide, nuclear holocaust, religious coercion, torture and summary execution are the new american values? God bless America.

By: pat

pat — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:11:47 +0000

Well, it’s Bush plus most sensible Republicans versus those you name.

Personally, I think Islamic terrorists should be treated like dirt. Extract any useful information they have and shoot them. And send a cruise missile into the mosque where they were radicalized. And drop a daisy cutter on their home village. If that doesn’t work, nuke their homeland. Of course, that might be a bit tricky with terrorists growing up in in non-Muslim countries. Easy solution: expel any Muslim who does not PUBLICLY renounce Islam.

Sound extreme? Well, what I propose isn’t too different from what we did to win WW2. Sprechen sie Deutsch? I thought not. Not Japanese either.