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		<title>By: Smiley</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-85014</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, the Afghanis don&#039;t want the Taliban, it&#039;s their mullahs who need the Taliban to hold onto power in the face of an increasing secular reality. Kind of like the Catholic Church needs the Pope to hide their pedarasty, and the Neo-Zi&#039;s needs President Bush to hide their ... egregious pedarasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, the Afghanis don&#8217;t want the Taliban, it&#8217;s their mullahs who need the Taliban to hold onto power in the face of an increasing secular reality. Kind of like the Catholic Church needs the Pope to hide their pedarasty, and the Neo-Zi&#8217;s needs President Bush to hide their &#8230; egregious pedarasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-79290</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Beinart just wrote a book attacking Bush on the right (at least on the National Security right).  I have yet to figure out why Democrats aren&#039;t clutching it as tightly as Hugo Chavez clutched Noam Chomkey&#039;s book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Beinart just wrote a book attacking Bush on the right (at least on the National Security right).  I have yet to figure out why Democrats aren&#8217;t clutching it as tightly as Hugo Chavez clutched Noam Chomkey&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-79011</link>
		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only explain the media&#039;s total favoritism towards the right with the phrase, &quot;The liberal media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations who own it&quot;.

On the Daily Show the other night, Jon Stewart showed the latest Newsweek issue, which in all 3 versions outside the US had the cover story &quot;Losing Afghanistan&quot;.  In the US, it had an article about some photographer...who is lesbian, but they even backed away from saying that.  Disgusting.

Also, if and when the Democrats do say anything, the media pretty much ignores them, and they get a tiny little splash in the pond that no one notices.  The chimperor opens up his mouth and they all jump all over themselves to shovel another truckload of bullshit all over the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only explain the media&#8217;s total favoritism towards the right with the phrase, &#8220;The liberal media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations who own it&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the Daily Show the other night, Jon Stewart showed the latest Newsweek issue, which in all 3 versions outside the US had the cover story &#8220;Losing Afghanistan&#8221;.  In the US, it had an article about some photographer&#8230;who is lesbian, but they even backed away from saying that.  Disgusting.</p>
<p>Also, if and when the Democrats do say anything, the media pretty much ignores them, and they get a tiny little splash in the pond that no one notices.  The chimperor opens up his mouth and they all jump all over themselves to shovel another truckload of bullshit all over the American people.</p>
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		<title>By: m.takhallus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-78993</link>
		<dc:creator>m.takhallus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eusto:

Thanks for the kind words.

In military terms you can go either way.  You can concentrate against the enemy&#039;s strength, or you can maneuver to penetrate at a weak point and either split or roll up the other guy&#039;s line.  If you&#039;re going strength-against-strength you need an advantage in numbers or some other telling advantage.  A relatively weaker force is probably (not always) better off massing against the enemy&#039;s weak point.

I guess I&#039;d argue that an incumbent is almost always the stronger force so you need to find a way to hit him where he ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eusto:</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>In military terms you can go either way.  You can concentrate against the enemy&#8217;s strength, or you can maneuver to penetrate at a weak point and either split or roll up the other guy&#8217;s line.  If you&#8217;re going strength-against-strength you need an advantage in numbers or some other telling advantage.  A relatively weaker force is probably (not always) better off massing against the enemy&#8217;s weak point.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;d argue that an incumbent is almost always the stronger force so you need to find a way to hit him where he ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: eusto</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-78985</link>
		<dc:creator>eusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to add a comment over at sideways but I couldn&#039;t. It may be me though, I&#039;ve had this problem before. I don&#039;t think you should shy away from pundit/political strategist work. It&#039;s good to recognize your limitations, but, come on, from what I understand Karl Rove barely graduated high school. (Now, I know you have a sketchy educational past yourself I think -- but you get my drift.) You make more sense than most professional pundits, so I don&#039;t see anything wrong with spreading your views more widely -- and making money at it. You may not know what you&#039;re talking about, but as long as you know more what you&#039;re talking about than your competitors -- you&#039;ve improved the situation.

Only problem with going right for the dems is it might cost them their base. Also credibility is important; John Kerry blasted Bush for not having had enough troops but he still didn&#039;t carry the day. If the Democrats were united and credible on this issue it would certainly help them out. 

Funny thing though is that from what I&#039;ve heard, Karl&#039;s strategy is always to go for the opponent&#039;s strength. But I guess you too are going for the opponent&#039;s strength -- namely Bush&#039;s national security cred -- but attacking its weak point. If the Dems could take out that credibility, the Repubs are done for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to add a comment over at sideways but I couldn&#8217;t. It may be me though, I&#8217;ve had this problem before. I don&#8217;t think you should shy away from pundit/political strategist work. It&#8217;s good to recognize your limitations, but, come on, from what I understand Karl Rove barely graduated high school. (Now, I know you have a sketchy educational past yourself I think &#8212; but you get my drift.) You make more sense than most professional pundits, so I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with spreading your views more widely &#8212; and making money at it. You may not know what you&#8217;re talking about, but as long as you know more what you&#8217;re talking about than your competitors &#8212; you&#8217;ve improved the situation.</p>
<p>Only problem with going right for the dems is it might cost them their base. Also credibility is important; John Kerry blasted Bush for not having had enough troops but he still didn&#8217;t carry the day. If the Democrats were united and credible on this issue it would certainly help them out. </p>
<p>Funny thing though is that from what I&#8217;ve heard, Karl&#8217;s strategy is always to go for the opponent&#8217;s strength. But I guess you too are going for the opponent&#8217;s strength &#8212; namely Bush&#8217;s national security cred &#8212; but attacking its weak point. If the Dems could take out that credibility, the Repubs are done for.</p>
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		<title>By: m.takhallus</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.takhallus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jammer:

I am blaming the president and his people. I&#039;m asking why the Dems are too dense to manage to do the same with any effectiveness.

It&#039;s two years til the next presidential election.  You really think Dems can just stand around carping without offering suggestions or at least cogent criticisms til then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jammer:</p>
<p>I am blaming the president and his people. I&#8217;m asking why the Dems are too dense to manage to do the same with any effectiveness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s two years til the next presidential election.  You really think Dems can just stand around carping without offering suggestions or at least cogent criticisms til then?</p>
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		<title>By: m.takhallus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-78929</link>
		<dc:creator>m.takhallus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:

I think that&#039;s a very smart historical point to make.  That summarizes it perfectly:  we need a JFK who can credibly get to the right on this and other security issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a very smart historical point to make.  That summarizes it perfectly:  we need a JFK who can credibly get to the right on this and other security issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How completely appropriate to today&#039;s way of discussing issues, that the base, abject surrender of the war on terror by the curent administration draws an article here attacking the Democrats.  I am suprised it did not attack Hillary too, although, I would submit that if anyone can recreate the mix of politics which was JFK, it is she.  No wonder Bush&#039;s numbers are headed up as we as a country are headed down.  How about if we blame the party in power for their screwups and wait for the dems to put out candidates for 2008 and make up our minds then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How completely appropriate to today&#8217;s way of discussing issues, that the base, abject surrender of the war on terror by the curent administration draws an article here attacking the Democrats.  I am suprised it did not attack Hillary too, although, I would submit that if anyone can recreate the mix of politics which was JFK, it is she.  No wonder Bush&#8217;s numbers are headed up as we as a country are headed down.  How about if we blame the party in power for their screwups and wait for the dems to put out candidates for 2008 and make up our minds then?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-78880</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d think the Dems would look to their own history here.  Adlai Stevenson catered to the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œsmarter than thouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? crowd and got massacred.  JFK came along, invented a missile gap and won (barely).  That wasnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t the only reason he won but it sure helped.  The only times the Dems have won from the left occurred when the economy was in the crapper, which isnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t the case right now.  Someone needs to take JFKÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s 1960 campaign, update it and repackage it.  I think TheyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d win in a landslide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d think the Dems would look to their own history here.  Adlai Stevenson catered to the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œsmarter than thouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? crowd and got massacred.  JFK came along, invented a missile gap and won (barely).  That wasnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t the only reason he won but it sure helped.  The only times the Dems have won from the left occurred when the economy was in the crapper, which isnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t the case right now.  Someone needs to take JFKÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s 1960 campaign, update it and repackage it.  I think TheyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢d win in a landslide.</p>
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		<title>By: m.takhallus</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/09/28/dembliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-78878</link>
		<dc:creator>m.takhallus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for how many years do we play that game?

They put a hundred chips on the table, we kill all 100, they kill 3 of ours (or 3 NATO soldiers.)  Rinse and repeat.  So we do that for what, ten years?  Fine.  But how does that game get Al Qaeda out of the tribal lands?  How does that game accomplish our strategic objective, which, let us remember, was to deny Al Qaeda a home base.

We didn&#039;t set out to prove we could maintain bases in Afghanistan, the idea was to take out the Taliban and deny Al Qaeda a safe haven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for how many years do we play that game?</p>
<p>They put a hundred chips on the table, we kill all 100, they kill 3 of ours (or 3 NATO soldiers.)  Rinse and repeat.  So we do that for what, ten years?  Fine.  But how does that game get Al Qaeda out of the tribal lands?  How does that game accomplish our strategic objective, which, let us remember, was to deny Al Qaeda a home base.</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t set out to prove we could maintain bases in Afghanistan, the idea was to take out the Taliban and deny Al Qaeda a safe haven.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianOfAtlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianOfAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Taliban don&#039;t own in Afghanistan any more than we do. They&#039;re Pakistani/Arab in both membership and doctrine. If the Taliban can retreat into Pakistan when the going gets tough it will make it harder to defeat them, but that&#039;s all. Just weeks ago, when the Taliban stood and fought to defend &#039;their&#039; Afghan territory, they died by the hundreds and lost the territory. They&#039;ll be back, but if they stand and fight they&#039;ll be killed once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Taliban don&#8217;t own in Afghanistan any more than we do. They&#8217;re Pakistani/Arab in both membership and doctrine. If the Taliban can retreat into Pakistan when the going gets tough it will make it harder to defeat them, but that&#8217;s all. Just weeks ago, when the Taliban stood and fought to defend &#8216;their&#8217; Afghan territory, they died by the hundreds and lost the territory. They&#8217;ll be back, but if they stand and fight they&#8217;ll be killed once again.</p>
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