And for your own safety, *never* come to Texas and say they should get rid of high school football. You will be on the business end of the result of legal conceal-carry.

Inbreds. Note to self: The scariest place on the planet has to be a Walmart in Texas.

Brian, I misread NAACP as ACLU, my bad. You’re right, this isn’t being brought as an Establishment Clause case, but a probably Title 7.

Wouldn’t it be in the best interest of the NAACP to dispel the whole black/Jew grudge thing?

Since when did the “we ain’t the only ones� become a valid constitutional defense.

Since when was this a constitutional issue? It’s a contractual issue between the government and the clinic. If there are other clinics which accept funding and are not open 24/7, then that’s a factor in this clinic’s favor indicating that it’s not breaking the terms of the contract.

If it wasn’t for the “invisible Man beliefs” of the Jews and Christians, we wouldn’t have the weekend as we know it. Think about that the next time you crack open a cool one after bustin’ your arse 40+ hours for the Man.

Unless the clinic in question is an emergency clinic, they have no obligation to be open at all hours. Heck, if they so chose, they could keep Sunday hours. Still convenient for people who work Mon-Fri work weeks.

Being closed on particular day is not imposing one’s beliefs on another. Imposing would be preaching their views while they have the patient in the chair with the drill in their mouth.

And for your own safety, *never* come to Texas and say they should get rid of high school football. You will be on the business end of the result of legal conceal-carry.

I think the whole sabbath thing is a red herring – free market means if you aren’t getting what you want one place you are free to go somewhere else.

What is “free market” about a federal grant?

My question to all is this. If the operator of a business, no matter what his beliefs, is required to work at the dictated time of those around him is he free or enslaved? Would it provide less hardship for a service to be closed on a Wednesday, a Tuesday, or a Sunday? Or should people with federal grants be mantaded to be available 24/7 as the people who payed for the grant money may need them. I think the whole sabbath thing is a red herring – free market means if you aren’t getting what you want one place you are free to go somewhere else.

Clearly the separation of church and state has never been interpreted as denying people the right to take a day off (even for religious reasons) when federal money is involved.

Here we have the government supporting an enterprise which provides services to the public 86% of the time. The other roughly 14% of the time the government is SOLELY supporting JUDIASM. Are we going allow courts to use 14% of their walls to display religious icons, 14% of public property to be littered with nativities, crucifixes, exc., 14% of the time in public school to be spent in prayer. Give me a break. It is outrageous – pull the plug on this deal.

BTW, has anyone watched “Friday Night Lights” re: highschool football in Texas — those students pray a lot…a lot. If that is an accurate depiction of reality (which I bet it is) I say, pull the plug on high school football in Texas, too.

They shouldn’t be taking this up with the state human rights division; if they believe the funding rules were violated, they should be taking it up with the appropriate federal agency.

It may seem that way, but I’ll defer to the lawyers on this one. I’m out of my league.

Agreed. But if those rules don’t require you to be open on Saturdays, then there’s no problem. And as you note, this isn’t discrimination in any case. They shouldn’t be taking this up with the state human rights division; if they believe the funding rules were violated, they should be taking it up with the appropriate federal agency.

Surely, there are other clinics in the country which accept federal funding yet shut down at “arbitrary� times.

Since when did the “we ain’t the only ones” become a valid constitutional defense.

As long as the clinic meets the terms of the funding, there’s no conflict.

I thought the terms of the funding are the issue.

There are second- and third-shift workers who might need care at 2 a.m. Why should their tax dollars be used to support a clinic that they can’t access?

Because most people are asleep at 2:00 am and there is no “Seperation of Sleep and State”.

It depends. The federal funds are there to help the clinic provide certain health services. As long as the clinic meets the terms of the funding, there’s no conflict.

Or should all clinics that receive such funding be required to be open 24/7? After all, if we’re not going to let them close down for the Sabbath, we shouldn’t let them close down for the night or the weekend, either. There are second- and third-shift workers who might need care at 2 a.m. Why should their tax dollars be used to support a clinic that they can’t access?