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	<title>Comments on: Cut and Run Republican?</title>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; James Baker: Don&#8217;t Stay The Course</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; James Baker: Don&#8217;t Stay The Course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Backing up what John Warner said on Friday, James Baker is publicly acknowledging that things have to change in Iraq&#8230;and soon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Backing up what John Warner said on Friday, James Baker is publicly acknowledging that things have to change in Iraq&#8230;and soon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/10/06/cut-and-run-republican/#comment-82179</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember, John Kerry is also on the Senate Armed Services Committee. What does he mean by Ã¢â‚¬Å“have a change of courseÃ¢â‚¬Â? after 90 days anyway? Does he mean withdrawal to Okinawa?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, this would be like John Kerry saying something like "I know I've said we should leave Iraq, but given the situation, I think we should give the Iraqi government 60-90 days and then possibly change course, and ALL options are on the table." Obviously, that could mean anything, but it sounds like he could be suggesting something that was the opposite of what we publicly called for before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Remember, John Kerry is also on the Senate Armed Services Committee. What does he mean by Ã¢â‚¬Å“have a change of courseÃ¢â‚¬Â? after 90 days anyway? Does he mean withdrawal to Okinawa?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, this would be like John Kerry saying something like &#8220;I know I&#8217;ve said we should leave Iraq, but given the situation, I think we should give the Iraqi government 60-90 days and then possibly change course, and ALL options are on the table.&#8221; Obviously, that could mean anything, but it sounds like he could be suggesting something that was the opposite of what we publicly called for before.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/10/06/cut-and-run-republican/#comment-81974</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 01:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;People, things wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t change in the next 3 months. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

How much do any of us &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; know about the tactical operations and troop movements on the ground in iraq, or what the major political issues that are facing local arabs in their towns or cities across Iraq, not just in Bagdhad?  Everybody acts as if they know all the details about what's really going on in iraq, when in reality, all we are being shown is 30 second soundbites, images of blown out cars and the number of G.I deaths.  "The Sunnis and Shi'as are fighting" is what we constantly hear but nobody really knows what that means, nor how it is actually different from what has been going on since 2003.

When was the last time you heard about Ramadi, or Najaf, or Fallujah? Are Baathists and former Saddam henchmen still  attacking U.S. soldiers because they think they will come to power again?  Are terrorists flooding across the Syrian border the way they were able to do 18 months ago?  

The course has been changing constantly over the past 3 years, but armchair generals like us don't realize it because have no attention span or sense of patience.

As for Warner, things are getting rather political this time of year and Iraq is unpopular so doesn't suprise me that he would say something like this.  Remember, John Kerry is also on the Senate Armed Services Committee.   What does he mean by "have a change of course" after 90 days anyway? Does he mean withdrawal to Okinawa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People, things wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t change in the next 3 months. </p></blockquote>
<p>How much do any of us <em>really</em> know about the tactical operations and troop movements on the ground in iraq, or what the major political issues that are facing local arabs in their towns or cities across Iraq, not just in Bagdhad?  Everybody acts as if they know all the details about what&#8217;s really going on in iraq, when in reality, all we are being shown is 30 second soundbites, images of blown out cars and the number of G.I deaths.  &#8220;The Sunnis and Shi&#8217;as are fighting&#8221; is what we constantly hear but nobody really knows what that means, nor how it is actually different from what has been going on since 2003.</p>
<p>When was the last time you heard about Ramadi, or Najaf, or Fallujah? Are Baathists and former Saddam henchmen still  attacking U.S. soldiers because they think they will come to power again?  Are terrorists flooding across the Syrian border the way they were able to do 18 months ago?  </p>
<p>The course has been changing constantly over the past 3 years, but armchair generals like us don&#8217;t realize it because have no attention span or sense of patience.</p>
<p>As for Warner, things are getting rather political this time of year and Iraq is unpopular so doesn&#8217;t suprise me that he would say something like this.  Remember, John Kerry is also on the Senate Armed Services Committee.   What does he mean by &#8220;have a change of course&#8221; after 90 days anyway? Does he mean withdrawal to Okinawa?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/10/06/cut-and-run-republican/#comment-81956</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warner is one of the better Senators and I commend him for admitting that the situation is poor in Iraq. However, why say we should wait 60-90 days before deciding to change course? Why not demand a change of course now? It's gotta be the elections. Nothing will happen until after the elections because no Republican is going to risk rocking the boat too much until they see how things sort out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warner is one of the better Senators and I commend him for admitting that the situation is poor in Iraq. However, why say we should wait 60-90 days before deciding to change course? Why not demand a change of course now? It&#8217;s gotta be the elections. Nothing will happen until after the elections because no Republican is going to risk rocking the boat too much until they see how things sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/10/06/cut-and-run-republican/#comment-81879</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ã¢â‚¬Å“LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s wait to do anything until after the election so when we finally admit we have no choice but to cut and run weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll have a few years before it can kill us in the pollsÃ¢â‚¬Â?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that's a fairly cynical way to read it. I understand why, but it still takes a fairly honest voice to come out and say things are going badly. He's essentially bucking his own party line, at least the Administration's.

However, I agree....public "truth to power" declarations  are coming REALLY late in the game...but at least they're coming at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s wait to do anything until after the election so when we finally admit we have no choice but to cut and run weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll have a few years before it can kill us in the pollsÃ¢â‚¬Â?</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a fairly cynical way to read it. I understand why, but it still takes a fairly honest voice to come out and say things are going badly. He&#8217;s essentially bucking his own party line, at least the Administration&#8217;s.</p>
<p>However, I agree&#8230;.public &#8220;truth to power&#8221; declarations  are coming REALLY late in the game&#8230;but at least they&#8217;re coming at all.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh...sounds to me like he's saying:

"Let's wait to do anything until after the election so when we finally admit we have no choice but to cut and run we'll have a few years before it can kill us in the polls"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh&#8230;sounds to me like he&#8217;s saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s wait to do anything until after the election so when we finally admit we have no choice but to cut and run we&#8217;ll have a few years before it can kill us in the polls&#8221;</p>
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