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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Better Bob Gates Profile</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/a-bob-gates-profile/comment-page-1/#comment-105192</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Better Bob Gates Profile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I posted a lengthy profile about Robert Gates recently, but this one is much more relevant to the position he&#8217;s vying for. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/a-bob-gates-profile/comment-page-1/#comment-104538</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow three pages and not one reference to Iran-Contra.  I will admit I started skimming after I got bored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow three pages and not one reference to Iran-Contra.  I will admit I started skimming after I got bored.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob J Young</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/a-bob-gates-profile/comment-page-1/#comment-104440</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob J Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting link from Boing Boing about Gates involvement in the Iran-Contra affair. 
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/09/robert_gates_history.html

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œRobert M. Gates has his own chapter in the official Iran-Contra affair court documents by independent counsel Lawrence E. Walsh. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_16.htm

From the  Independent Counsels report:

ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIndependent Counsel found insufficient evidence to warrant charging Robert Gates with a crime for his role in the Iran/contra affair. Like those of many other Iran/contra figures, the statements of Gates often seemed scripted and less than candid. Nevertheless, given the complex nature of the activities and Gates&#039;s apparent lack of direct participation, a jury could find the evidence left a reasonable doubt that Gates either obstructed official inquiries or that his two demonstrably incorrect statements were deliberate lies.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?

After reading the documents I am not happy that he is my new boss. Yet another ethically challenged Defense Secretary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting link from Boing Boing about Gates involvement in the Iran-Contra affair.<br />
<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/09/robert_gates_history.html" >http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/09/robert_gates_history.html</a></p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œRobert M. Gates has his own chapter in the official Iran-Contra affair court documents by independent counsel Lawrence E. Walsh. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ<br />
<a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_16.htm" >http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_16.htm</a></p>
<p>From the  Independent Counsels report:</p>
<p>ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIndependent Counsel found insufficient evidence to warrant charging Robert Gates with a crime for his role in the Iran/contra affair. Like those of many other Iran/contra figures, the statements of Gates often seemed scripted and less than candid. Nevertheless, given the complex nature of the activities and Gates&#8217;s apparent lack of direct participation, a jury could find the evidence left a reasonable doubt that Gates either obstructed official inquiries or that his two demonstrably incorrect statements were deliberate lies.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?</p>
<p>After reading the documents I am not happy that he is my new boss. Yet another ethically challenged Defense Secretary.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob J Young</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/a-bob-gates-profile/comment-page-1/#comment-104208</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob J Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article: 
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œI am an agent of change,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIf you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want change, you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want me.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? 
And that was just a university he was talking about.

After 20+ years in the department of defense, I can honestly say that this kind of attitude summons up a plethora of emotions (fear, joy and disdain to be exact.)

Fear, because I&#039;m afraid he is going to make my job harder to do.  Upper management has never  understood the technology that makes everything work.  They just view it as a magic black box that answers come out of.  Ham handed and idiotic would be a good way to describe their edicts.

Joy, because corruption waste and incompetence is so common place that anyone who tries to clean it up is welcome.

Disdain, because I&#039;ve seen so many managers and politicians come and go, all with their pet projects, and all being completely ineffective.

I wish him luck, but at this late a date in the war, he is walking into a real meat grinder. Hopefully he will focus on fighting the war, and not all the pie in the sky super toys the DOD seem to love buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:<br />
ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œI am an agent of change,ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œIf you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want change, you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t want me.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?<br />
And that was just a university he was talking about.</p>
<p>After 20+ years in the department of defense, I can honestly say that this kind of attitude summons up a plethora of emotions (fear, joy and disdain to be exact.)</p>
<p>Fear, because I&#8217;m afraid he is going to make my job harder to do.  Upper management has never  understood the technology that makes everything work.  They just view it as a magic black box that answers come out of.  Ham handed and idiotic would be a good way to describe their edicts.</p>
<p>Joy, because corruption waste and incompetence is so common place that anyone who tries to clean it up is welcome.</p>
<p>Disdain, because I&#8217;ve seen so many managers and politicians come and go, all with their pet projects, and all being completely ineffective.</p>
<p>I wish him luck, but at this late a date in the war, he is walking into a real meat grinder. Hopefully he will focus on fighting the war, and not all the pie in the sky super toys the DOD seem to love buying.</p>
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		<title>By: BenG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Mr. Gardner;  I tried to read the link you gave, but it just went on &amp; on waxing nostalgic towards his A &amp; M days, I didn&#039;t have time to finish. For the short of it check out D-Kos for his post. There&#039;s also a good link in Slate.com, but I don&#039;t have time now to find it, on my way out--sorry.
The short of it from Kos&#039; perspective is, surprise, they don&#039;t like the appointment.  He&#039;s too much &#039;Reagan era&#039;, ex- cold war, inflexable conservative to make any changes that need be made.  
Example; he was somehow &#039;behind the 8 ball&#039; at the collapse of the Soviet Union that he didn&#039;t see it coming and continued fighting it after they no longer existed ! Hope I&#039;m not oversimplifying...
Anyway, gotta run, if anyone has anything else I&#039;d appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Mr. Gardner;  I tried to read the link you gave, but it just went on &amp; on waxing nostalgic towards his A &amp; M days, I didn&#8217;t have time to finish. For the short of it check out D-Kos for his post. There&#8217;s also a good link in Slate.com, but I don&#8217;t have time now to find it, on my way out&#8211;sorry.<br />
The short of it from Kos&#8217; perspective is, surprise, they don&#8217;t like the appointment.  He&#8217;s too much &#8216;Reagan era&#8217;, ex- cold war, inflexable conservative to make any changes that need be made.<br />
Example; he was somehow &#8216;behind the 8 ball&#8217; at the collapse of the Soviet Union that he didn&#8217;t see it coming and continued fighting it after they no longer existed ! Hope I&#8217;m not oversimplifying&#8230;<br />
Anyway, gotta run, if anyone has anything else I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
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