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		<title>By: Dear Kitty. Some blog :: USA: Cindy Sheehan arrested near White House :: November :: 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Kitty. Some blog :: USA: Cindy Sheehan arrested near White House :: November :: 2006</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Around the web &#124; alexking.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Around the web &#124; alexking.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marcus Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear bill,

     I remeber watching tv a few years ago and it was a french prison the grauds were acuased of all kind of things.  The sad think is it turned out to be true.  The gaurds were jailed themselves after raping a girl who was the dauther of a italian offical who was drunk and disorderly.  It was her 17th brithday and the trip was her gift.  France what a great country.   (p.s. The gaurds are serving life after being convicted of over 40 seperate cases.  Remember the speacils about max prisions in the US.  The gaurds were acused of the same the things.  Just didn&#039;t happen.  You must have met at least one person that they were completely framed and did nothing.  Then you happend to be the one that they wronged????

Do you think it is acceptable to spit in a cops face?  If so then why have them?  Do you want to live with out governments and laws?  If so then do you think rape or pedioplia is OK?  If you do not think rape or pedioplia is ok then what should be done.  

Do you believe that what is wrong for one person might be right for another?  Then HItler and Stalin were GOOD GUYS?  If you don&#039;t think so then why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear bill,</p>
<p>     I remeber watching tv a few years ago and it was a french prison the grauds were acuased of all kind of things.  The sad think is it turned out to be true.  The gaurds were jailed themselves after raping a girl who was the dauther of a italian offical who was drunk and disorderly.  It was her 17th brithday and the trip was her gift.  France what a great country.   (p.s. The gaurds are serving life after being convicted of over 40 seperate cases.  Remember the speacils about max prisions in the US.  The gaurds were acused of the same the things.  Just didn&#8217;t happen.  You must have met at least one person that they were completely framed and did nothing.  Then you happend to be the one that they wronged????</p>
<p>Do you think it is acceptable to spit in a cops face?  If so then why have them?  Do you want to live with out governments and laws?  If so then do you think rape or pedioplia is OK?  If you do not think rape or pedioplia is ok then what should be done.  </p>
<p>Do you believe that what is wrong for one person might be right for another?  Then HItler and Stalin were GOOD GUYS?  If you don&#8217;t think so then why.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they want to pass laws to prevent future problems I say great. Liberals are the same as sheep. Feed me, shelter me, and I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t care if you kill me. JUST DO NOT TELL ME THINGS I WONT LIKE. Bush won the elections? Yes, despite liberals throughing out military votes. John kerry Wanted to go to war with iraq and the camel humpers. Liberals supported him, Bush Went to war and got sadam. If you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t like america then go worship mo mo and ali (the pedophile). Islam has created nothing. Islam takes over and claims everything good is there doing. Islam is for powermongers, pedophiles, sadist, and eliteist. I think any one who hides in a hospital and shoots at people are cowards and should be killed. The people responsible for 911 should be fucked by pigs. Then killed? YES!!!
America is for those who want freedom and liberty. Those who march in the streets and follow with out question and sheep. Sheep are to be slaterd. Look in the peaceful countrys islam. They raise children to think of dieing and not living. The more you kill the more women you have to serve you in the hereafter. In america we are angerd be children being hurt or harmed. We in america do not ever think killing prostitutes is ok. Sadly you wish to follow the group and say we are right you are wrong. Both sides are corrupt. Chose the lesser of to evils? Yes.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¨Americas military is volintary. Theese MEN &amp; WOMEN piss me of all the time for their bravery and courage. I think theese people are heros. Buricrates are worthless. Hitler was a nice friendly guy just like north koreas head pedophile and dictaor. You have the ability to change things by your vote and actions. Yet you bitch and moan. Spread your ideas. Talk to people, be friendly and look for solutions. Do not stick your head up your ass or keep it there. People will listen but not when you act like a petulant child.
If you want to change things then do so. Do not help enemys to harm others, like jane fonda. Support your country and try your best to make it better. Do you want to be remembered as a screamer or as a calm and thoughtful person. Will you want to have children who scream and rant or listen and respond by trying to find and implement solutions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they want to pass laws to prevent future problems I say great. Liberals are the same as sheep. Feed me, shelter me, and I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t care if you kill me. JUST DO NOT TELL ME THINGS I WONT LIKE. Bush won the elections? Yes, despite liberals throughing out military votes. John kerry Wanted to go to war with iraq and the camel humpers. Liberals supported him, Bush Went to war and got sadam. If you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t like america then go worship mo mo and ali (the pedophile). Islam has created nothing. Islam takes over and claims everything good is there doing. Islam is for powermongers, pedophiles, sadist, and eliteist. I think any one who hides in a hospital and shoots at people are cowards and should be killed. The people responsible for 911 should be fucked by pigs. Then killed? YES!!!<br />
America is for those who want freedom and liberty. Those who march in the streets and follow with out question and sheep. Sheep are to be slaterd. Look in the peaceful countrys islam. They raise children to think of dieing and not living. The more you kill the more women you have to serve you in the hereafter. In america we are angerd be children being hurt or harmed. We in america do not ever think killing prostitutes is ok. Sadly you wish to follow the group and say we are right you are wrong. Both sides are corrupt. Chose the lesser of to evils? Yes.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¨Americas military is volintary. Theese MEN &amp; WOMEN piss me of all the time for their bravery and courage. I think theese people are heros. Buricrates are worthless. Hitler was a nice friendly guy just like north koreas head pedophile and dictaor. You have the ability to change things by your vote and actions. Yet you bitch and moan. Spread your ideas. Talk to people, be friendly and look for solutions. Do not stick your head up your ass or keep it there. People will listen but not when you act like a petulant child.<br />
If you want to change things then do so. Do not help enemys to harm others, like jane fonda. Support your country and try your best to make it better. Do you want to be remembered as a screamer or as a calm and thoughtful person. Will you want to have children who scream and rant or listen and respond by trying to find and implement solutions</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I am all in favor of war crimes trials for Rumsfeld, Cheney, et. al.  

If found guilty, I would advocate no jail time, no physical punishments...just return all the money to the US treasury and listen to the victims say whatever they need to say.

By the way, I am well aware that there are other criminals out there that are not American, but identify as muslim.  More violence is not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I am all in favor of war crimes trials for Rumsfeld, Cheney, et. al.  </p>
<p>If found guilty, I would advocate no jail time, no physical punishments&#8230;just return all the money to the US treasury and listen to the victims say whatever they need to say.</p>
<p>By the way, I am well aware that there are other criminals out there that are not American, but identify as muslim.  More violence is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please spare me.  This thread contains some of the worst &quot;I am holier than thou&quot; moralistic BS.  Moral high ground my ass.  &quot;America used to be great&quot; and &quot;never tortured&quot;.  It makes me want to hurl chunks.  PLEASE people, grow up - get out of the ozone - get rid of the blind hate - get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please spare me.  This thread contains some of the worst &#8220;I am holier than thou&#8221; moralistic BS.  Moral high ground my ass.  &#8220;America used to be great&#8221; and &#8220;never tortured&#8221;.  It makes me want to hurl chunks.  PLEASE people, grow up &#8211; get out of the ozone &#8211; get rid of the blind hate &#8211; get real.</p>
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		<title>By: sambo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When someone is being tortured, will their screaming echo throughout the entire building?  Then we have to think about Iraq vs. U.S.A.   
     Smart Bomb vs. Machete
     Cluster Bomb vs. Large Stone
     Phosphorous Bomb (used in Fallujah) vs.  
What would you do if a bomb killed your whole family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone is being tortured, will their screaming echo throughout the entire building?  Then we have to think about Iraq vs. U.S.A.<br />
     Smart Bomb vs. Machete<br />
     Cluster Bomb vs. Large Stone<br />
     Phosphorous Bomb (used in Fallujah) vs.<br />
What would you do if a bomb killed your whole family?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dos,

I&#039;m all for a nice historical discussion about the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the income tax and its amendment -- what I&#039;m objecting too is the Illuminati like conspiracy theory advanced by the video. It&#039;s like &quot;Loose Change&quot; for the tax set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dos,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for a nice historical discussion about the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the income tax and its amendment &#8212; what I&#8217;m objecting too is the Illuminati like conspiracy theory advanced by the video. It&#8217;s like &#8220;Loose Change&#8221; for the tax set.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy from Virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy from Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes to show what happens when countries expand their concept of jurisdiction beyond what happens within their own borders or to their own citizens.  I trust that the German prosecutor will have the sense not to go forward with this.  Having the U.S. sign on to the International Criminal Court is a very tough sell, and the idea that high-level American officials could be subject  to  trial in a foreign country for defending America in a way they believed to be legal would kill the idea of joining the ICC for years to come.

I understand that the rationale the prosecutor has used before was that the American legal system had yet to consider these cases, and the theory was that he was deferring to American courts.  That rationale, however, is not enough -- under the U.S legal system, there will be no prosecution because it is unwarranted.  There is a big difference between a judicial system that does not work, and a judicial system that does not work the way another country wants it to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes to show what happens when countries expand their concept of jurisdiction beyond what happens within their own borders or to their own citizens.  I trust that the German prosecutor will have the sense not to go forward with this.  Having the U.S. sign on to the International Criminal Court is a very tough sell, and the idea that high-level American officials could be subject  to  trial in a foreign country for defending America in a way they believed to be legal would kill the idea of joining the ICC for years to come.</p>
<p>I understand that the rationale the prosecutor has used before was that the American legal system had yet to consider these cases, and the theory was that he was deferring to American courts.  That rationale, however, is not enough &#8212; under the U.S legal system, there will be no prosecution because it is unwarranted.  There is a big difference between a judicial system that does not work, and a judicial system that does not work the way another country wants it to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very sad to hear my fellow Americans trying to justify and rationalize something as un-American as torture!

We were once a truly great nation, with moral leadership admired around the world.  Now we have been led down the slope to barbarism, and these people, who somehow still claim superiority to others in the world, openly advocate torture-unto-death, with the same mind-set as demented Muslim terrorists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sad to hear my fellow Americans trying to justify and rationalize something as un-American as torture!</p>
<p>We were once a truly great nation, with moral leadership admired around the world.  Now we have been led down the slope to barbarism, and these people, who somehow still claim superiority to others in the world, openly advocate torture-unto-death, with the same mind-set as demented Muslim terrorists!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.
&quot;Only the Germans (maybe the Russians) would be audacious and aggressive enough to establish ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œuniversial jurisdiction.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?
[and the Americans, of course]
&quot;Yes, people, letÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s have a world where any country can bring up charges against any citizen of any other country for any and all perceived wrongs that didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t even happen within the jurisdiction of the prosecuting nation or involve citizens of that nation. ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a workable system.&quot;
[if not, why did we legalize it?]
Our &quot;Military Commissions Act&quot; says we can imprison and hold without trial or rights, any citizen of any country, on the sole authority of our President. Perhaps now you can see what a bad idea this is.
&quot;Maybe you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t remember our soldiers being hacked to pieces and dragged through the streets in Iraq. We have to coddle this type of people??&quot;
No, we don&#039;t have to &quot;coddle&quot; them. We have to regain the moral high ground by refusing to act outside law and morality. Yoo, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Bush have publicly ridiculed the anti-torture provisions of the Geneva convention, and legitimized the abrogation of human and legal rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.<br />
&#8220;Only the Germans (maybe the Russians) would be audacious and aggressive enough to establish ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œuniversial jurisdiction.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?<br />
[and the Americans, of course]<br />
&#8220;Yes, people, letÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s have a world where any country can bring up charges against any citizen of any other country for any and all perceived wrongs that didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t even happen within the jurisdiction of the prosecuting nation or involve citizens of that nation. ThatÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a workable system.&#8221;<br />
[if not, why did we legalize it?]<br />
Our &#8220;Military Commissions Act&#8221; says we can imprison and hold without trial or rights, any citizen of any country, on the sole authority of our President. Perhaps now you can see what a bad idea this is.<br />
&#8220;Maybe you donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t remember our soldiers being hacked to pieces and dragged through the streets in Iraq. We have to coddle this type of people??&#8221;<br />
No, we don&#8217;t have to &#8220;coddle&#8221; them. We have to regain the moral high ground by refusing to act outside law and morality. Yoo, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and Bush have publicly ridiculed the anti-torture provisions of the Geneva convention, and legitimized the abrogation of human and legal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I doubt much will actually come from this, but if nothing else it will shed light on the reprehensible actions of this administration.

Neocons continually blame this sort of horrific behavior on the &quot;bad guys&quot;...saying things like, &quot;We had to torture them because they were beheading Americans.&quot;  

However, when we stoop to using evil people&#039;s tactics against them we become evil people ourselves.  The end does not automatically justify the means.  And Rumsfeld, Bush, Cheney, Rove, and most of the rest of their flunkies deserve jail time, at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I doubt much will actually come from this, but if nothing else it will shed light on the reprehensible actions of this administration.</p>
<p>Neocons continually blame this sort of horrific behavior on the &#8220;bad guys&#8221;&#8230;saying things like, &#8220;We had to torture them because they were beheading Americans.&#8221;  </p>
<p>However, when we stoop to using evil people&#8217;s tactics against them we become evil people ourselves.  The end does not automatically justify the means.  And Rumsfeld, Bush, Cheney, Rove, and most of the rest of their flunkies deserve jail time, at the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan -  The historical legitimacy of the income tax is hardly a new topic and doesn&#039;t fall under the b.s. catagory in my mind.  That being said, I did not watch that video, because I don&#039;t have the time.  Have greater faith that the readership of Donklephant can sift through b.s. without an overseeing filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan &#8211;  The historical legitimacy of the income tax is hardly a new topic and doesn&#8217;t fall under the b.s. catagory in my mind.  That being said, I did not watch that video, because I don&#8217;t have the time.  Have greater faith that the readership of Donklephant can sift through b.s. without an overseeing filter.</p>
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		<title>By: drphonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>drphonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donald Rumsfeld IS a war criminal. What is it about the war crimes act that you people don&#039;t understand? The only reason this piece of crap hasn&#039;t been tried in the U.S. is because our congress is still controlled by republican stoolies. That is obviously changing. Stay tuned for well deserved executions.....

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002441----000-.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald Rumsfeld IS a war criminal. What is it about the war crimes act that you people don&#8217;t understand? The only reason this piece of crap hasn&#8217;t been tried in the U.S. is because our congress is still controlled by republican stoolies. That is obviously changing. Stay tuned for well deserved executions&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Free America</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/charging-rumsfeld-with-aiding-and-abetting-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-106957</link>
		<dc:creator>Free America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cant blame an entire ethnic group for the actions of a few wackos. I just cant wait for them to go after Bush when his term is over. Its interesting to me that when we were part of the world court we rarely (if at all) heard of &quot;War-crimes&quot; occuring. If accidents happened (and they definitly did) generally our military took the heat for them.

Now we&#039;ve got some self-rightious draft-dodge who believes that the US is the world police and has the right to dictate what everyone else does but which refuses to take blame for its mistakes. What happens? We withdraw from the world court, withdraw (essentially) from the geneva conventions, and what to we get? Abu-graib, secret prisons, the whole premise of &quot;enemy combatants&quot;, indefinite detention without trial, the destabilization of a country/goverment that had nothing to do with the &quot;War on Terror&quot; (oh boo hoo that Saddam tried to kill my daddy boo hoo), the persecution against the black, the muslim, and the homosexual the list (sadly) can go on forever. And guess who approved them all? BUSH.

I just cant wait for Chancellor Bush&#039;s term to be up so he can get tried too. I think that if the troops want to fight a war on terror, they should bring that fighting home and oust these militants, after all its Bush that approved sending our brave men and women ill equipped into battle without a plan resulting in the whole mess called the war in Iraq. Our troops didnt and dont deserve the deplorable treatment they are getting from the current administration. And maybe, just maybe if they had more sensitivity/cultural training on the various ethnic groups in Iraq, maybe our men would be safer for in instead of Rumsfeld and Cheney&#039;s &quot;Shoot them if they look at you funny&quot; kind of training. I dont blame the troops who are actually doing their jobs, but I do think that its not just following orders that make you a good soldier, its knowing when to stand up for your beliefs and defy orders that you know are morally wrong.

All the best to our fighting men and women, stay safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cant blame an entire ethnic group for the actions of a few wackos. I just cant wait for them to go after Bush when his term is over. Its interesting to me that when we were part of the world court we rarely (if at all) heard of &#8220;War-crimes&#8221; occuring. If accidents happened (and they definitly did) generally our military took the heat for them.</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;ve got some self-rightious draft-dodge who believes that the US is the world police and has the right to dictate what everyone else does but which refuses to take blame for its mistakes. What happens? We withdraw from the world court, withdraw (essentially) from the geneva conventions, and what to we get? Abu-graib, secret prisons, the whole premise of &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221;, indefinite detention without trial, the destabilization of a country/goverment that had nothing to do with the &#8220;War on Terror&#8221; (oh boo hoo that Saddam tried to kill my daddy boo hoo), the persecution against the black, the muslim, and the homosexual the list (sadly) can go on forever. And guess who approved them all? BUSH.</p>
<p>I just cant wait for Chancellor Bush&#8217;s term to be up so he can get tried too. I think that if the troops want to fight a war on terror, they should bring that fighting home and oust these militants, after all its Bush that approved sending our brave men and women ill equipped into battle without a plan resulting in the whole mess called the war in Iraq. Our troops didnt and dont deserve the deplorable treatment they are getting from the current administration. And maybe, just maybe if they had more sensitivity/cultural training on the various ethnic groups in Iraq, maybe our men would be safer for in instead of Rumsfeld and Cheney&#8217;s &#8220;Shoot them if they look at you funny&#8221; kind of training. I dont blame the troops who are actually doing their jobs, but I do think that its not just following orders that make you a good soldier, its knowing when to stand up for your beliefs and defy orders that you know are morally wrong.</p>
<p>All the best to our fighting men and women, stay safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/charging-rumsfeld-with-aiding-and-abetting-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-106929</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, do we have to allow links to conspiracry theory b.s. to be posted on this site? This is a site for reasoned thinking, not the sort of junk Bruce is sending us to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, do we have to allow links to conspiracry theory b.s. to be posted on this site? This is a site for reasoned thinking, not the sort of junk Bruce is sending us to.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/charging-rumsfeld-with-aiding-and-abetting-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-106407</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should watch Aaron Russo&#039;s film From freedom to Fascism.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&amp;q=aaron+russo
The income tax is illegal. It explains a lot of what is going on. 
That&#039;s why I include it here. 

Rumsfeld is a war criminal. John Yoo likes to crush children&#039;s testicles.
What a sick bunch of criminals. Anybody who supports Rumsfeld or Yoo is discredited in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should watch Aaron Russo&#8217;s film From freedom to Fascism.<br />
<a href="http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&amp;q=aaron+russo" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&amp;q=aaron+russo</a><br />
The income tax is illegal. It explains a lot of what is going on.<br />
That&#8217;s why I include it here. </p>
<p>Rumsfeld is a war criminal. John Yoo likes to crush children&#8217;s testicles.<br />
What a sick bunch of criminals. Anybody who supports Rumsfeld or Yoo is discredited in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people, let&#039;s have a world where any country can bring up charges against any citizen of any other country for any and all perceived wrongs that didn&#039;t even happen within the jurisdiction of the prosecuting nation or involve citizens of that nation. That&#039;s a workable system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people, let&#8217;s have a world where any country can bring up charges against any citizen of any other country for any and all perceived wrongs that didn&#8217;t even happen within the jurisdiction of the prosecuting nation or involve citizens of that nation. That&#8217;s a workable system.</p>
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		<title>By: western_crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>western_crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really disheartened by the fact that Liberals refuse to see what evil is taking place right in front of their own eyes. Maybe you don&#039;t remember our soldiers being hacked to pieces and dragged through the streets in Iraq. We have to coddle this type of people?? If it will stop one of this religious imbeciles from blowing up my kids on the way to school or in the mall, I say let the brutal interrogations begin. They do unspeakable things to our soldiers and their fellow Muslims in the name of their religion. We should do the same in defense of our kids and future. If it comes down to my kids or them, too bad for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really disheartened by the fact that Liberals refuse to see what evil is taking place right in front of their own eyes. Maybe you don&#8217;t remember our soldiers being hacked to pieces and dragged through the streets in Iraq. We have to coddle this type of people?? If it will stop one of this religious imbeciles from blowing up my kids on the way to school or in the mall, I say let the brutal interrogations begin. They do unspeakable things to our soldiers and their fellow Muslims in the name of their religion. We should do the same in defense of our kids and future. If it comes down to my kids or them, too bad for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/10/charging-rumsfeld-with-aiding-and-abetting-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-105528</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say skip the trial.  Take Rummy, Bush, &amp; Chenney out to the woodshed and shoot them.  That is the only appropriate justice.  My God, they actually ordered our troops to force prisoners to go naked and wear female panties on their heads.

Even young and dumb college guys know you should never force anybody to do that.  Just get em drunk first, then they&#039;ll do it all by themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say skip the trial.  Take Rummy, Bush, &amp; Chenney out to the woodshed and shoot them.  That is the only appropriate justice.  My God, they actually ordered our troops to force prisoners to go naked and wear female panties on their heads.</p>
<p>Even young and dumb college guys know you should never force anybody to do that.  Just get em drunk first, then they&#8217;ll do it all by themselves.</p>
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