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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shame On John Murtha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shame On John Murtha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] love to see put out to pasture. I&#8217;ve never been a fan, as you can see from the title of this post back in 2006.   This entry was posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 and is filed under Dumb [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] love to see put out to pasture. I&#8217;ve never been a fan, as you can see from the title of this post back in 2006.   This entry was posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 and is filed under Dumb [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/13/the-dems-first-big-fup/comment-page-1/#comment-112152</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murtha deserves some credit for speaking out against the war, is impeccably qualified to do so and gave the Dems a spine-transplant on the issue. Pelosi publicly gave Murtha no cover, saying &quot;Murtha speaks for himself,&quot; though she had helped convince him to come forward and helped orchestrate the timing. The Dems, far from being as hapless as they were portrayed, successfully dodged the GOP&#039;s efforts to make them counter-offer on Social Security, skewered the Bushies on the Dubai ports deal, and forced the GOP to start an investigation on pre-war intelligence. For more on how well this team did at derailing the Bush juggernaut, see &quot;Not as Lame as You Think&quot; here: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0605.sullivan1.html

Maybe neither Murtha nor Hoyer are the ideal candidates, but whichever is chosen, I will support them and expect them to be paragons of virtue. Can Murtha keep it clean as Speaker? Can Hoyer? They better ! But for now, I&#039;m not going to be making divisive noises about our need for politicians with squeaky clean pasts (are there any?) to run the House or Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murtha deserves some credit for speaking out against the war, is impeccably qualified to do so and gave the Dems a spine-transplant on the issue. Pelosi publicly gave Murtha no cover, saying &#8220;Murtha speaks for himself,&#8221; though she had helped convince him to come forward and helped orchestrate the timing. The Dems, far from being as hapless as they were portrayed, successfully dodged the GOP&#8217;s efforts to make them counter-offer on Social Security, skewered the Bushies on the Dubai ports deal, and forced the GOP to start an investigation on pre-war intelligence. For more on how well this team did at derailing the Bush juggernaut, see &#8220;Not as Lame as You Think&#8221; here: <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0605.sullivan1.html" >http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0605.sullivan1.html</a></p>
<p>Maybe neither Murtha nor Hoyer are the ideal candidates, but whichever is chosen, I will support them and expect them to be paragons of virtue. Can Murtha keep it clean as Speaker? Can Hoyer? They better ! But for now, I&#8217;m not going to be making divisive noises about our need for politicians with squeaky clean pasts (are there any?) to run the House or Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did my earlier comment go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did my earlier comment go?</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/11/13/the-dems-first-big-fup/comment-page-1/#comment-111811</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lets Get Ready to Rummmmmmbbble&lt;/strong&gt;

So.... she has left her party with two options... either she gets her way in her first decision as house speaker and puts a crook in the position, OR she loses her first battle with her own party, which is more than just a possibility. Nice start huh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lets Get Ready to Rummmmmmbbble</strong></p>
<p>So&#8230;. she has left her party with two options&#8230; either she gets her way in her first decision as house speaker and puts a crook in the position, OR she loses her first battle with her own party, which is more than just a possibility. Nice start huh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Awww...Nuts!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awww...Nuts!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the Big Game everyone. In which no one is happy and little gets done. Murtha is what Murtha is. The simple fact is NO ONE should be in power for that long. 

Even Jesus F#%*&amp;^!! Christ would begin to get some dirt on his hands after that long in politics with that many people offering easy money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Big Game everyone. In which no one is happy and little gets done. Murtha is what Murtha is. The simple fact is NO ONE should be in power for that long. </p>
<p>Even Jesus F#%*&amp;^!! Christ would begin to get some dirt on his hands after that long in politics with that many people offering easy money.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rooting for Hoyer because he seems to have more of a Centrist sensibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m rooting for Hoyer because he seems to have more of a Centrist sensibility.</p>
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		<title>By: gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Michelle Malken can put her immigration handwringing in a burrito and eat it. &quot;

That made me laugh out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Michelle Malken can put her immigration handwringing in a burrito and eat it. &#8221;</p>
<p>That made me laugh out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, there will be many more. I would suggest that the choice of Martinez has everything do with his last name.  The gop has a legitimate thang for the our brown brothers to the South and I&#039;m all for it.  Michelle Malken can put her immigration handwringing in a burrito and eat it.  The Mexicans are hard workers and good family people, they tend to vote Republican if given a chance.  They tend not to obsess on the penumbra of rights associated with cornholing.  I&#039;ve yet to see **anybody** produce legitimate economic studies that show illegals are bad for the economy.  Martinez may be as dump as a box of rocks -- if its an overture to la gente, I&#039;m all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, there will be many more. I would suggest that the choice of Martinez has everything do with his last name.  The gop has a legitimate thang for the our brown brothers to the South and I&#8217;m all for it.  Michelle Malken can put her immigration handwringing in a burrito and eat it.  The Mexicans are hard workers and good family people, they tend to vote Republican if given a chance.  They tend not to obsess on the penumbra of rights associated with cornholing.  I&#8217;ve yet to see **anybody** produce legitimate economic studies that show illegals are bad for the economy.  Martinez may be as dump as a box of rocks &#8212; if its an overture to la gente, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderate mojo? His moderation seems to be born of political expedience and insider influence peddling. Steny Hoyer isn&#039;t exactly a shining beacon of anti-corruption, but he&#039;s less stained than Murtha.

If they&#039;re going to kick Hoyer down, they could at least replace him with someone who&#039;s less &quot;part of the system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderate mojo? His moderation seems to be born of political expedience and insider influence peddling. Steny Hoyer isn&#8217;t exactly a shining beacon of anti-corruption, but he&#8217;s less stained than Murtha.</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re going to kick Hoyer down, they could at least replace him with someone who&#8217;s less &#8220;part of the system.&#8221;</p>
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