Comments on: Meanwhile, In The World Of Heroin… http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: probligo http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/comment-page-1/#comment-131888 probligo Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:33:56 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/#comment-131888 Irrespective of Taleban and US invasion, there is an equal condemnation that arises from this <b>fact</b> that you report, and it affects other nations as much as it does Afghanistan. It also highlights the <b>fact</b> that the poppy growing existed for a long while prior to the invasion by the US, or the Taleban takeover, or for that matter the USSR invasion. By itself, Afghanistan could grow (as I recall the numbers) some 35% of the total fresh vegetable requirements for Europe. It could do so at perhaps a landed cost of 60% to 75% of the "cost" of the highly subsidised European growers. Not "cabbage" or "pot plants" but tomato, root crops, real cabbage, rice and wheat. How is about the American fresh vegetable market? How much cheaper could your greens be, if they were sourced from Afghanistan instead of subsidised US growers? Who is going to be the first to recognise that "free trade" is not really "free"? Irrespective of Taleban and US invasion, there is an equal condemnation that arises from this fact that you report, and it affects other nations as much as it does Afghanistan. It also highlights the fact that the poppy growing existed for a long while prior to the invasion by the US, or the Taleban takeover, or for that matter the USSR invasion.

By itself, Afghanistan could grow (as I recall the numbers) some 35% of the total fresh vegetable requirements for Europe. It could do so at perhaps a landed cost of 60% to 75% of the “cost” of the highly subsidised European growers. Not “cabbage” or “pot plants” but tomato, root crops, real cabbage, rice and wheat.

How is about the American fresh vegetable market? How much cheaper could your greens be, if they were sourced from Afghanistan instead of subsidised US growers?

Who is going to be the first to recognise that “free trade” is not really “free”?

]]> By: African American (Black) Opinion http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/comment-page-1/#comment-131731 African American (Black) Opinion Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:03:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/#comment-131731 [...] Hat Tip The Moderate Voice.com and donklephant.com [...] [...] Hat Tip The Moderate Voice.com and donklephant.com [...]

]]> By: Allan http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/comment-page-1/#comment-131196 Allan Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:56:19 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/#comment-131196 Thanks for passing the Senlis Council report on Justin. A shortage of pain meds on one hand... and the world's largest producer of opium... hmmm... This has been well covered in Europe and Canada but has received scant coverage here in the US. I doubt many politicians at the federal level even know what the Senlis plan is. Interesting comparison (success-wise) between Afghanistan and Colombia. Failure of eradication, the eradication forcing of farmers into the hands of those we least like to see them supporting... In 1990 Colombia <i>produced</i> 92 metric tons of cocaine that sold in the US for $275/gram retail. In 2004 640 metric tons were produced with a street price of $90/gram. In 2004 118 metric tons of Colombian cocaine was seized. And if there is a doubt that the War On Drugs is keeping us free: - In 1993, under Apartheid, South Africa incarcerated 851 black males per 100,000 population. - In 2004, under Prohibition, the U.S. incarcerated 4,919 black males per 100,000 population. Thanks for passing the Senlis Council report on Justin.

A shortage of pain meds on one hand… and the world’s largest producer of opium… hmmm…

This has been well covered in Europe and Canada but has received scant coverage here in the US. I doubt many politicians at the federal level even know what the Senlis plan is.

Interesting comparison (success-wise) between Afghanistan and Colombia. Failure of eradication, the eradication forcing of farmers into the hands of those we least like to see them supporting…

In 1990 Colombia produced 92 metric tons of cocaine that sold in the US for $275/gram retail.

In 2004 640 metric tons were produced with a street price of $90/gram.

In 2004 118 metric tons of Colombian cocaine was seized.

And if there is a doubt that the War On Drugs is keeping us free:

- In 1993, under Apartheid, South Africa incarcerated 851 black males per 100,000 population.

- In 2004, under Prohibition, the U.S. incarcerated 4,919 black males per 100,000 population.

]]> By: Pat http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/comment-page-1/#comment-130751 Pat Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:58:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/02/meanwhile-in-the-world-of-heroin/#comment-130751 I agree that the diversion of our limited national security resources from Afghanistan to Iraq greatly contributed to this current state of affairs. Abandoning the Afghan campaign was only one of the many acts of treason by this administration. Prosecuting the terrorist funding, crime fostering drug war may well prove to be an even more egregious at of treason. Frankly, as long as America pursues the drug war this situation will only get worse. Here is why: <a href="http://leftindependent.blogspot.com/2006/12/afghanistan-opium-crop-sets-record.html" rel="nofollow">Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record Bush failure</a> I agree that the diversion of our limited national security resources from Afghanistan to Iraq greatly contributed to this current state of affairs. Abandoning the Afghan campaign was only one of the many acts of treason by this administration. Prosecuting the terrorist funding, crime fostering drug war may well prove to be an even more egregious at of treason. Frankly, as long as America pursues the drug war this situation will only get worse.

Here is why: Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record Bush failure

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