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	<title>Comments on: Hope For Stem Cells</title>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-138632</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, GreenDreams!  I look forward to your substantive comments, be they enlightening, brilliant or utterly retarded.  Please feel free to ignore me, I will not ignore you.  When and if you peck out a thought I deem stupid, irrational, illogical, sloppy, ill-conceived, malinformed, dishonest, inconsistent, bias or wrong I will let you know.  If your reasoning is inconsistent from topic to topic and you flutter from one position to the next with no cohesive center and then claim it is moderation - I will probable taunt you and call you out.  You see GreenDreams, I &quot;advance the conversation&quot; by scraping horse shit out the middle of the road, so the vehicles of intelligence can pass without interruption or irritation.  We will see if you are one of those vehicles...or a horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, GreenDreams!  I look forward to your substantive comments, be they enlightening, brilliant or utterly retarded.  Please feel free to ignore me, I will not ignore you.  When and if you peck out a thought I deem stupid, irrational, illogical, sloppy, ill-conceived, malinformed, dishonest, inconsistent, bias or wrong I will let you know.  If your reasoning is inconsistent from topic to topic and you flutter from one position to the next with no cohesive center and then claim it is moderation &#8211; I will probable taunt you and call you out.  You see GreenDreams, I &#8220;advance the conversation&#8221; by scraping horse shit out the middle of the road, so the vehicles of intelligence can pass without interruption or irritation.  We will see if you are one of those vehicles&#8230;or a horse.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-138136</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new here. I&#039;m beginning to get it that DosPeros is best ignored...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new here. I&#8217;m beginning to get it that DosPeros is best ignored&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-137034</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Sleipner -- how often have I heard you bemoan the evils of Corporate America, the greedy immoral bastards with no regard for the environment or humanity, placing profits above people, sponsoring genocide in Africa, exc...

Who do you think is going to be doing the stem cell research brilliant? Who do you think is going to be doing the experimentation?  Do you think government forces or market forces will ultimately dictate the direction of genetic research?  

You can&#039;t have it both ways Sleipner -- either you trust Corporate America enough to give it the power to play God or you don&#039;t.  For someone who supposedly hates Corporate America so much, you sure are giving it untethered power to forge into an unknown territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Sleipner &#8212; how often have I heard you bemoan the evils of Corporate America, the greedy immoral bastards with no regard for the environment or humanity, placing profits above people, sponsoring genocide in Africa, exc&#8230;</p>
<p>Who do you think is going to be doing the stem cell research brilliant? Who do you think is going to be doing the experimentation?  Do you think government forces or market forces will ultimately dictate the direction of genetic research?  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways Sleipner &#8212; either you trust Corporate America enough to give it the power to play God or you don&#8217;t.  For someone who supposedly hates Corporate America so much, you sure are giving it untethered power to forge into an unknown territory.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-136957</link>
		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha...thanks, Dos, I needed a good laugh this morning.  So you really think that somehow allowing research on blastocysts that are about to be thrown away anyway is going to somehow slaughter us all?  

Sure, stem cell research has the potential for abuses, such as eugenics, disease warfare research, etc., but the again, so does almost any branch of science.  Are we to ignore physics because eventually it leads to the concept of nuclear weapons?  Chemistry, because we can learn how to make Sarin gas?  

It is impossible to predict with absolute certainty exactly what might come from any particular scientific investigation - that is why the investigation is valuable.  However, all indications to date about stem cell research is that it has the potential to be more valuable to society than almost any other medical advance in history.  Compared to that, worrying about the feelings of a few leftover cells due to be sent to the biohazard disposal unit is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230;thanks, Dos, I needed a good laugh this morning.  So you really think that somehow allowing research on blastocysts that are about to be thrown away anyway is going to somehow slaughter us all?  </p>
<p>Sure, stem cell research has the potential for abuses, such as eugenics, disease warfare research, etc., but the again, so does almost any branch of science.  Are we to ignore physics because eventually it leads to the concept of nuclear weapons?  Chemistry, because we can learn how to make Sarin gas?  </p>
<p>It is impossible to predict with absolute certainty exactly what might come from any particular scientific investigation &#8211; that is why the investigation is valuable.  However, all indications to date about stem cell research is that it has the potential to be more valuable to society than almost any other medical advance in history.  Compared to that, worrying about the feelings of a few leftover cells due to be sent to the biohazard disposal unit is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-136823</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You want to give your child the best possible start. Believe me, we have enough imperfections built in already. The child doesn&#039;t need any additional burdens. Keep in mind this child is still you, simply the best of you. You could conceive naturally a thousand times and never get such a result.&quot; 

That&#039;s right you de-generate in-valid uteros, be prepared.  You were horrified by the &quot;Orwellian&quot; nightmare of the NSA wiretapping program, but when it comes to playing God you&#039;ll happily be led to your slaughter by a fictional cure-all carrot -- goats the lot of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You want to give your child the best possible start. Believe me, we have enough imperfections built in already. The child doesn&#8217;t need any additional burdens. Keep in mind this child is still you, simply the best of you. You could conceive naturally a thousand times and never get such a result.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s right you de-generate in-valid uteros, be prepared.  You were horrified by the &#8220;Orwellian&#8221; nightmare of the NSA wiretapping program, but when it comes to playing God you&#8217;ll happily be led to your slaughter by a fictional cure-all carrot &#8212; goats the lot of you.</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-136237</link>
		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Bush will almost certainly veto any federal initiatives involving useful stem cell research, but we might be getting to the point of having enough congresspeople seeing reason to have a veto-proof majority...if not, whichever party takes the presidency in 2008 will certainly be far more reasonable (and intelligent) than Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Bush will almost certainly veto any federal initiatives involving useful stem cell research, but we might be getting to the point of having enough congresspeople seeing reason to have a veto-proof majority&#8230;if not, whichever party takes the presidency in 2008 will certainly be far more reasonable (and intelligent) than Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-136148</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today St. Jude, tomorrow the Lebensborn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today St. Jude, tomorrow the Lebensborn.</p>
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		<title>By: beepbeepitsme</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2006/12/07/hope-for-stem-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-135898</link>
		<dc:creator>beepbeepitsme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stem Cell Research In Australia 
http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/12/stem-cell-research-in-australia.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stem Cell Research In Australia<br />
<a href="http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/12/stem-cell-research-in-australia.html" >http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/12/stem-cell-research-in-australia.html</a></p>
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