Comments on: 2nd Largest Oil Field Drying Up Faster http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Orlowski Zygmunt http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-235966 Orlowski Zygmunt Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:10:17 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-235966 New kind of of clean energy!!! Clean the air? It is possible. Clean water? It is possible too. Clean energy? It is possible as well. My idea is very difficult for understanding. It is not difficult for engineer - mechanic, who knows very good the Pascal's law and even-arm lever. Please open GOOgle and find metozor and next : index of metozor. Overthere is all about idea of main . example : http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/for_greenpeace.html or http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/energy_for_everybody.h... http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/prolog_for_metoz.html Too good to be true !!! Energy sources. http://nets.pl/~metozor/three_levers.html I am inventor and owner of Metoz machine invention. Everyone can take absolutely and legitimate the METOZ invention and build the Metoz machine. I can help only. I can not build METOZ. I am moneyless. New kind of of clean energy!!!
Clean the air? It is possible. Clean water? It is possible too.
Clean energy? It is possible as well.
My idea is very difficult for understanding. It is not difficult for engineer – mechanic, who knows very good the Pascal’s law and even-arm lever.
Please open GOOgle and find metozor and next :
index of metozor.
Overthere is all about idea of main .
example : http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/for_greenpeace.html or
http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/energy_for_everybody.h...
http://www.nets.pl/~metozor/prolog_for_metoz.html
Too good to be true !!!
Energy sources.
http://nets.pl/~metozor/three_levers.html

I am inventor and owner of Metoz machine invention. Everyone can take absolutely and legitimate the METOZ invention and build the Metoz machine. I can help only. I can not build METOZ. I am moneyless.

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By: HealthReviews.org http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-173333 HealthReviews.org Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:02:19 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-173333 This is truly a great blog! Keep on posting such interesting subjects! I already bookmarked your blog and I will recommend it to some of my friends. James Spade This is truly a great blog! Keep on posting such interesting subjects! I already bookmarked your blog and I will recommend it to some of my friends. James Spade

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By: Engineer-Poet http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-172534 Engineer-Poet Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:34:53 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-172534 If it's on keelynet, you should RUN (not walk) to a physicist for an explanation of why it's hogwash (unless you can find it yourself with a search engine). If it’s on keelynet, you should RUN (not walk) to a physicist for an explanation of why it’s hogwash (unless you can find it yourself with a search engine).

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By: Dennis Kenney http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-170204 Dennis Kenney Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:01:34 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-170204 Did you or anyone else ever test this invention? If so what were the conclusions? Can it generate enough hydrogen to run a car? Found it on the news link on this web site. I feel the author is a little suspect but the origional invention looks honest. What's your opinion? http://www.wam-a-bam.com/hydrockickbank.html http://www.wam-a-bam.com/Newscb.html Dennis Kenney This file was originally posted on the KeelyNet BBS on December 3, 1993 as GARRETT1.ASC. The Next Step in Energy Production, Engines and Lighting by Jerry W. Decker for KeelyNet (with apologies to the Dallas Morning News, the Van Nostrand Scientific Encylopedia and the US Patent Office) For years we have heard stories about a demonstration of a car that ran on water here in the Dallas area. Never was there any text substantiation or other documents relating details. Many of our friends had also heard the story with hints of a green pill or powder that was added to the water while in the gas tank that somehow made it combustible with no further actions taken beyond the simple ignition via a high intensity spark. About three years ago, our friends Howard and Joanne Bond sent us a short newspaper clipping describing the demonstration. The article indicates a patent was secured for the "something" that made the car run on water. That has kept me inspired all this time and made me keep an eye and ear out for additional information. The basic story as I heard it was that the inventor of the traffic light, Dad Garrett, failed to get a patent on the idea. Every city adopted his traffic light invention for which Dad Garrett received little in return. He and his son Charles invented other devices, among them a means of making an automobile engine run on water, but I never heard of a patent issued on this. To promote the discovery, a public demonstration was held at White Rock Lake in Dallas somewhere around 1934. The event was covered by news media of the day and we understand there was a Pathe' or Movietone newsreel. An automobile was towed to the lake site. We do not know the type of automobile or whether it was a 6 or 8 cylinder engine. A gallon of water was removed from the lake and put into the gas tank. The car was then started and driven around the lake with no problems. Several months back, I decided to do whatever it would take to dig up this patent, if it existed. I knew from the article that a Dad Garrett and his son Charles had invented this "something". I did not know the year of this alledged patent and so had to go through several volumes looking for anything relating to Garrett. Sometimes inventors assign their invention to companies and that posed an additional problem if such was the case. I finally did find a patent issued to Charles H. Garrett on July 2, 1935 and called an ELECTROLYTIC CARBURETOR. The number was 2,006,676. Since the microfiles only go back to about the mid-40's, I had no option except to order it from the patent office. A letter was sent to them with $2.00 ($1.50 for the patent and .50 for mailing costs). After almost 3 months, I got a letter saying that patents had now gone up to $3.00. So, another letter with the extra $1.00 FINALLY got me the patent about 3 weeks later. I have been calling it a HYDROLYTIC CARBURETOR because of WHAT it is combusting and have been totally amazed at the simplicity of the technology. Several of our associates have received advance copies of it and are quite impressed, saying they will build and test it. We too will test it and openly share our findings. Please feel free to pass this file around. The newspaper articles are included in this file for the exact information as published from the 1935 demonstration to the latest modern report of which I am aware. Bob Aldrich of Survivor BBS in LA gave us additional patent numbers pertaining to the Horvath patents for electrolysis to power an automobile engine. Of those patents, the Garrett patent was NEVER listed as a "prior art" patent. That is quite odd as it PRECEDES several of the points made by the Horvath patent, not to mention being SO SIMPLE. Experiments will be carried out on the Garrett design and we and our fellow experimenters will share our findings for those interested. The potential is ENORMOUS. What follows is the story confirming that no green pill was involved in the process and which Howard and Joanne Bond sent to KeelyNet. Dallas Morning News - 1992 - Long Format Column : TEXAS SKETCHES Headline : Early inventor builds water-powered auto Date : September 6, 1992 Section : TEXAS & SOUTHWEST Page : 48A Edition : HOME FINAL Author : A.C. Greene Word Count : 398 Text : The late Henry "Dad" Garrett was a multi-talented Dallas inventor with a bent for electrical contrivances, and in 1935, he and his son, C.H. Garrett, patented and exhibited an automobile that ran on water -- actually, on hydrogen after the water was broken down by electrolysis. Dad Garrett was already famous for his work. In 1920 he set up WRR in Dallas, the world's first municipal radio station, and was its first announcer. He was the first man to build a radio in his car, and he developed radio transmission from the car for police use. He also invented an automatic electric traffic signal, possibly the nation's first. Eugene P. Aldredge recalled the Garretts: "I had rented a small office on the seventh floor of the Allen building in downtown Dallas for my letter service, and one of my early customers was the eighteenth floor National Electric Signal Co. owned by Dad Garrett and son C.H.. "I was informed that the two were experimenting with an automobile that used water for fuel, that they carried on their experiments in a workshop adjacent to their office on the top floor, and that two separate explosions (from dangerous hydrogen) had nearly blown a hole in the roof of the building...Neither was hurt." On September 8, 1935, The Dallas Morning News first announced that the water-fuel concept worked -- at least it worked for "several minutes," the article reported. A few months later, Pathe' News filmed the car driving along Garland Road with the driver stopping at White Rock Lake to fill the fuel tank with water before cruising off. In 1970, Karen Klinefelter wrote, "Aptly enough, the film was shown on Pathe's Stranger than Fiction feature program." C.H. Garrett said the only items needed to convert a gasoline-engine auto to a water burner was an electrolytic carburetor and installation of a generator of double normal capacity for the breaking down of the water. He claimed instant starts in any weather, no fire hazards, cooler operation and plenty of power and speed. The car was not marketed, and no one seems to know its ultimate destiny. Both Garretts died a number of years ago. [A.C. Greene is an author and Texas historian who lives in Salado.] The original September 8, 1935 article that I found on microfilm in the Dallas Library. Dallasite Patents Invention Which He Claims Substitutes Water for Gasoline as Fuel C.H. Garrett, Dallas inventor, gave a private demonstration Saturday of a recently patented contrivance which he said substituted water for gasoline as fuel for internal combustion engines. He said it broke up the water by electrolysis into its component gases, oxygen and hydrogen, using the highly explosive hydrogen for fuel in the motor cylinder. The working model operated a four-cylinder engine for several minutes in the demonstration, at varying speeds and with several starts and stops. Garrett said he had operated the engine continuously for more than forty-eight hours. The inventor said the idea itself was not new. He explained that difficulty had been encountered heretofore in attempts to store the dangerously inflammable hydrogen. He claimed to have AVOIDED that trouble by making and exploding the gas in the SAME PROCESS without a storage chamber in which the flames from the motor cylinders might react. Water, he explained, is broken down into its component gases by passage of an electric current through it from electrodes immersed in the water. Hydrogen collects at the negative pole and oxygen at the positive. The hydrogen, Garrett said, is MIXED WITH AIR (78% nitrogen and other gases...Vanguard) and introduced DIRECTLY INTO THE CYLINDERS. The inventor said he had been working on the device for eight years, assisted by his father, Henry Garrett, traffic signal engineer for the city of Dallas, inventor of the traffic signal system, now in use here and holder of several patents on such contrivances. Garrett said attachment of the electrolytic carburetor and installation of a generator of about DOUBLE normal capacity to furnish power for the breaking down of the water were the only changes needed to convert a gasoline burning automobile into a WATER BURNER! He said the electrolysis chamber would have to VARY IN SIZE with the size of the motor used. One of ABOUT A QUART CAPACITY being big enough for the ordinary automobile. He claimed instantaneous starting in any weather, elimination of fire hazards, cooler motor operation and fulfilling of all motor requirements in power and speed. Did you or anyone else ever test this invention? If so what were the conclusions? Can it generate enough hydrogen to run a car?
Found it on the news link on this web site. I feel the author is a little suspect but the origional invention looks honest. What’s your opinion?
http://www.wam-a-bam.com/hydrockickbank.html
http://www.wam-a-bam.com/Newscb.html
Dennis Kenney

This file was originally posted on the KeelyNet BBS on December 3, 1993 as
GARRETT1.ASC.
The Next Step in
Energy Production, Engines and Lighting
by Jerry W. Decker for KeelyNet
(with apologies to the Dallas Morning News, the Van Nostrand Scientific
Encylopedia and the US Patent Office)

For years we have heard stories about a demonstration of a car that ran on
water here in the Dallas area. Never was there any text substantiation or
other documents relating details. Many of our friends had also heard the
story with hints of a green pill or powder that was added to the water while
in the gas tank that somehow made it combustible with no further actions
taken beyond the simple ignition via a high intensity spark.

About three years ago, our friends Howard and Joanne Bond sent us a short
newspaper clipping describing the demonstration. The article indicates a
patent was secured for the “something” that made the car run on water. That
has kept me inspired all this time and made me keep an eye and ear out for
additional information.

The basic story as I heard it was that the inventor of the traffic light, Dad
Garrett, failed to get a patent on the idea. Every city adopted his traffic light
invention for which Dad Garrett received little in return. He and his son
Charles invented other devices, among them a means of making an
automobile engine run on water, but I never heard of a patent issued on this.
To promote the discovery, a public demonstration was held at White Rock
Lake in Dallas somewhere around 1934. The event was covered by news
media of the day and we understand there was a Pathe’ or Movietone
newsreel. An automobile was towed to the lake site. We do not know the
type of automobile or whether it was a 6 or 8 cylinder engine. A gallon of
water was removed from the lake and put into the gas tank. The car was then
started and driven around the lake with no problems.

Several months back, I decided to do whatever it would take to dig up this
patent, if it existed. I knew from the article that a Dad Garrett and his son
Charles had invented this “something”. I did not know the year of this
alledged patent and so had to go through several volumes looking for
anything relating to Garrett. Sometimes inventors assign their invention to
companies and that posed an additional problem if such was the case.

I finally did find a patent issued to Charles H. Garrett on July 2, 1935 and
called an ELECTROLYTIC CARBURETOR. The number was 2,006,676. Since
the microfiles only go back to about the mid-40′s, I had no option except to
order it from the patent office. A letter was sent to them with $2.00 ($1.50 for
the patent and .50 for mailing costs). After almost 3 months, I got a letter
saying that patents had now gone up to $3.00. So, another letter with the
extra $1.00 FINALLY got me the patent about 3 weeks later.

I have been calling it a HYDROLYTIC CARBURETOR because of WHAT it is
combusting and have been totally amazed at the simplicity of the
technology. Several of our associates have received advance copies of it
and are quite impressed, saying they will build and test it. We too will test it
and openly share our findings.

Please feel free to pass this file around.
The newspaper articles are included in this file for the exact information as
published from the 1935 demonstration to the latest modern report of which I
am aware.

Bob Aldrich of Survivor BBS in LA gave us additional patent numbers
pertaining to the Horvath patents for electrolysis to power an automobile
engine. Of those patents, the Garrett patent was NEVER listed as a “prior art”
patent. That is quite odd as it PRECEDES several of the points made by the
Horvath patent, not to mention being SO SIMPLE. Experiments will be
carried out on the Garrett design and we and our fellow experimenters will
share our findings for those interested. The potential is ENORMOUS.

What follows is the story confirming that no green pill was involved in the
process and which Howard and Joanne Bond sent to KeelyNet.
Dallas Morning News – 1992 – Long Format
Column : TEXAS SKETCHES
Headline : Early inventor builds water-powered auto
Date : September 6, 1992
Section : TEXAS & SOUTHWEST
Page : 48A
Edition : HOME FINAL
Author : A.C. Greene
Word Count : 398
Text :

The late Henry “Dad” Garrett was a multi-talented Dallas inventor with a bent
for electrical contrivances, and in 1935, he and his son, C.H. Garrett, patented
and exhibited an automobile that ran on water — actually, on hydrogen after
the water was broken down by electrolysis.

Dad Garrett was already famous for his work. In 1920 he set up WRR in
Dallas, the world’s first municipal radio station, and was its first announcer.
He was the first man to build a radio in his car, and he developed radio
transmission from the car for police use. He also invented an automatic
electric traffic signal, possibly the nation’s first.

Eugene P. Aldredge recalled the Garretts: “I had rented a small office on the
seventh floor of the Allen building in downtown Dallas for my letter service,
and one of my early customers was the eighteenth floor National Electric
Signal Co. owned by Dad Garrett and son C.H..

“I was informed that the two were experimenting with an automobile that
used water for fuel, that they carried on their experiments in a workshop
adjacent to their office on the top floor, and that two separate explosions
(from dangerous hydrogen) had nearly blown a hole in the roof of the
building…Neither was hurt.”

On September 8, 1935, The Dallas Morning News first announced that the
water-fuel concept worked — at least it worked for “several minutes,” the
article reported.

A few months later, Pathe’ News filmed the car driving along Garland Road
with the driver stopping at White Rock Lake to fill the fuel tank with water
before cruising off. In 1970, Karen Klinefelter wrote, “Aptly enough, the film
was shown on Pathe’s Stranger than Fiction feature program.”

C.H. Garrett said the only items needed to convert a gasoline-engine auto to
a water burner was an electrolytic carburetor and installation of a generator
of double normal capacity for the breaking down of the water.
He claimed instant starts in any weather, no fire hazards, cooler operation
and plenty of power and speed. The car was not marketed, and no one
seems to know its ultimate destiny. Both Garretts died a number of years
ago.

[A.C. Greene is an author and Texas historian who lives in Salado.]

The original September 8, 1935 article that I found on microfilm in the Dallas
Library.
Dallasite Patents Invention
Which He Claims Substitutes
Water for Gasoline as Fuel
C.H. Garrett, Dallas inventor, gave a private demonstration Saturday of a
recently patented contrivance which he said substituted water for gasoline
as fuel for internal combustion engines.
He said it broke up the water by electrolysis into its component gases,
oxygen and hydrogen, using the highly explosive hydrogen for fuel in the
motor cylinder.
The working model operated a four-cylinder engine for several minutes in
the demonstration, at varying speeds and with several starts and stops.
Garrett said he had operated the engine continuously for more than
forty-eight hours.

The inventor said the idea itself was not new. He explained that difficulty had
been encountered heretofore in attempts to store the dangerously
inflammable hydrogen. He claimed to have AVOIDED that trouble by making
and exploding the gas in the SAME PROCESS without a storage chamber in
which the flames from the motor cylinders might react.

Water, he explained, is broken down into its component gases by passage of
an electric current through it from electrodes immersed in the water.
Hydrogen collects at the negative pole and oxygen at the positive. The
hydrogen, Garrett said, is MIXED WITH AIR (78% nitrogen and other
gases…Vanguard) and introduced DIRECTLY INTO THE CYLINDERS.
The inventor said he had been working on the device for eight years,
assisted by his father, Henry Garrett, traffic signal engineer for the city of
Dallas, inventor of the traffic signal system, now in use here and holder of
several patents on such contrivances.

Garrett said attachment of the electrolytic carburetor and installation of a
generator of about DOUBLE normal capacity to furnish power for the
breaking down of the water were the only changes needed to convert a
gasoline burning automobile into a WATER BURNER!
He said the electrolysis chamber would have to VARY IN SIZE with the size
of the motor used. One of ABOUT A QUART CAPACITY being big enough for
the ordinary automobile.
He claimed instantaneous starting in any weather, elimination of fire
hazards, cooler motor operation and fulfilling of all motor requirements in
power and speed.

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By: Engineer-Poet http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-169258 Engineer-Poet Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:20:48 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-169258 I believe there are ways we could replace both electric generation fuel and petroleum motor fuel with renewables; recent advances in fuel cells have given us efficiency boosts which make it possible.  I wrote up an analysis:  <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/11/27/0432/3533" rel="nofollow">Sustainability, energy independence and agricultural policy</a> (duplicated with slightly more user-friendly formatting <a href="http://ergosphere.blogspot.com/2006/11/sustainability-energy-independence-and.html" rel="nofollow">at my blog</a>).  Adding more energy from wind and nuclear would make it even easier, though I have not tried to add them to my analysis yet. Regardless, we need to get started <i><b>yesterday</b>.</i> (I hope this accepts HTML... I hate not having a preview!) I believe there are ways we could replace both electric generation fuel and petroleum motor fuel with renewables; recent advances in fuel cells have given us efficiency boosts which make it possible.  I wrote up an analysis:  Sustainability, energy independence and agricultural policy (duplicated with slightly more user-friendly formatting at my blog).  Adding more energy from wind and nuclear would make it even easier, though I have not tried to add them to my analysis yet.

Regardless, we need to get started yesterday.

(I hope this accepts HTML… I hate not having a preview!)

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By: Justin Gardner http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-169248 Justin Gardner Wed, 27 Dec 2006 05:52:04 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-169248 Peter, what I was saying is there aren't many external, financial pressures. Not yet at least. And yes, I know about global warming and it concerns me that we're not doing more. That was one of the "read between the lines" points of the post. Peter, what I was saying is there aren’t many external, financial pressures. Not yet at least. And yes, I know about global warming and it concerns me that we’re not doing more. That was one of the “read between the lines” points of the post.

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By: Peter Parry http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-168847 Peter Parry Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:00:03 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-168847 Justin Gardner says "right now there isn't much pressure" to reduce reliance on Oil. Hello?? Ever heard of global warming Justin? Oh and if you are a skeptic - every week a new study shows further damage and evidence of global warming - one reported in the media today was: "Almost every one of more than 300 large glaciers studied worldwide is in retreat, international glaciologists reported in October in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. This is "essentially a response to post-1970 global warming," they said." Justin Gardner says “right now there isn’t much pressure” to reduce reliance on Oil. Hello?? Ever heard of global warming Justin?

Oh and if you are a skeptic – every week a new study shows further damage and evidence of global warming – one reported in the media today was: “Almost every one of more than 300 large glaciers studied worldwide is in retreat, international glaciologists reported in October in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. This is “essentially a response to post-1970 global warming,” they said.”

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By: Royce Penstinger http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/comment-page-1/#comment-168763 Royce Penstinger Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:51:00 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2006/12/26/2nd-largest-oil-field-drying-up-faster/#comment-168763 Let's see...Entergy's Indian Point Plant here in New York is is currently leaking dangerous radioactive wastes into the ground that are migrating into the Hudson River from leaking spent fuel rod containment pools. Then, we have the truck carrying 6500 pound of fuel grade uranium being returned from Japan for reprocessing that tipped over last week in North Carolina...Global Nuclear Fuel denies it, but if it was coming back from Japan for reprocessing, that makes it SPENT FUEL...which would explain the exclusionary zone that the DHS threw up around the accident to kill the story....visit my blog, and you'll find several recent articles that explain why the public is leary about Nuclear Energy. Let’s see…Entergy’s Indian Point Plant here in New York is is currently leaking dangerous radioactive wastes into the ground that are migrating into the Hudson River from leaking spent fuel rod containment pools. Then, we have the truck carrying 6500 pound of fuel grade uranium being returned from Japan for reprocessing that tipped over last week in North Carolina…Global Nuclear Fuel denies it, but if it was coming back from Japan for reprocessing, that makes it SPENT FUEL…which would explain the exclusionary zone that the DHS threw up around the accident to kill the story….visit my blog, and you’ll find several recent articles that explain why the public is leary about Nuclear Energy.

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