Comments on: Lose, Lose, Lose http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:46:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Bob J Young http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183879 Bob J Young Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:59:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183879 First off I don't this is going to work, but if your going to do it why not do it right? Why send 20,000 why you need 100,000? Bush is already judged a failure, why not re-mobilize the guard and reserve and do a full push? It's not like people will think any less of him than they do now. First off I don’t this is going to work, but if your going to do it why not do it right?

Why send 20,000 why you need 100,000? Bush is already judged a failure, why not re-mobilize the guard and reserve and do a full push? It’s not like people will think any less of him than they do now.

]]> By: Ralphus http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183644 Ralphus Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:05:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183644 "I supported this war because..." I forgive you. At least you're doing the right thing now. I couldn't believe the Orwellian double-talk last night. From Bush of course, but also from the right-wing pundits. It seems they have lost touch with reality, if they ever were in touch with it. Bush's speach had the effect of confirming that he is a maniac. He will be the end of us all if we don't stop him and his ilk. Be prepared to oppose a McCain/Lieberman ticket in '08. Possible slogans for their campaign: "War is peace. Escalation is stabilization. More troops is fewer troops." Actually, that last one has some truth to it. Can't wait for the draft so I have an excuse to visit Canada. I also simply adore the right-wing comparisons of this war to WWII. Laughable. And notice how they never EVER compare it to Vietnam. Which, as I recall, the US pulled out of unilaterally, and the 'domino effect' never did occur. I can’t help but wonder if things won’t turn out just fine when we finally, inevitably get our troops out of that Civil War. One more point. The consequence of failure, from the point of view of those in the Middle East opposed to Bush's conquest: "The consequences of failure are clear: Radical Christian extremists would grow in strength and gain new recruits. They would be in a better position to topple moderate governments, create chaos in the region, and use oil revenues to fund their ambitions. Our enemies would have a safe haven from which to plan and launch attacks on the Arab people…" “I supported this war because…”

I forgive you. At least you’re doing the right thing now.

I couldn’t believe the Orwellian double-talk last night. From Bush of course, but also from the right-wing pundits. It seems they have lost touch with reality, if they ever were in touch with it. Bush’s speach had the effect of confirming that he is a maniac. He will be the end of us all if we don’t stop him and his ilk. Be prepared to oppose a McCain/Lieberman ticket in ‘08. Possible slogans for their campaign: “War is peace. Escalation is stabilization. More troops is fewer troops.” Actually, that last one has some truth to it. Can’t wait for the draft so I have an excuse to visit Canada. I also simply adore the right-wing comparisons of this war to WWII. Laughable. And notice how they never EVER compare it to Vietnam. Which, as I recall, the US pulled out of unilaterally, and the ‘domino effect’ never did occur. I can’t help but wonder if things won’t turn out just fine when we finally, inevitably get our troops out of that Civil War. One more point. The consequence of failure, from the point of view of those in the Middle East opposed to Bush’s conquest:

“The consequences of failure are clear: Radical Christian extremists would grow in strength and gain new recruits. They would be in a better position to topple moderate governments, create chaos in the region, and use oil revenues to fund their ambitions. Our enemies would have a safe haven from which to plan and launch attacks on the Arab people…”

]]> By: Iam http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183638 Iam Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:40:04 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183638 You supported a GAMBLE! You don't gamble when starting a war, you start wars based on the FACTS! Dumbya manipulated the intel which was ambivalent about the WMD, we had inspectors on the ground in Iraq before bush invaded who could go anywhere and do anything and found NOTHING! Bush chased them out in order to be a war president and make his place in history so he could show his dad that junior really WAS an achiever. There was NEVER any meaningful connection between Iraq and Al Qaida, hussein had NOTHING to do with 9/11, it was all a LIE. You supported a GAMBLE! You don’t gamble when starting a war, you start wars based on the FACTS! Dumbya manipulated the intel which was ambivalent about the WMD, we had inspectors on the ground in Iraq before bush invaded who could go anywhere and do anything and found NOTHING! Bush chased them out in order to be a war president and make his place in history so he could show his dad that junior really WAS an achiever. There was NEVER any meaningful connection between Iraq and Al Qaida, hussein had NOTHING to do with 9/11, it was all a LIE.

]]> By: Jimmy the Dhimmi http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183614 Jimmy the Dhimmi Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:49:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183614 <blockquote>The President’s Iraq plan assumes that there is a cogent, non-sectarian, uncorrupted Iraqi national government to partner with</blockquote> If the iraqi army is loyal to their generals, and the generals aren't fighting amongst eachother, then I think it could work. Our national government is not very cogent when it comes to iraq policy but our troops fight on with a singular mission, because they obey commands from their superior officers, not Ted Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi.

The President’s Iraq plan assumes that there is a cogent, non-sectarian, uncorrupted Iraqi national government to partner with

If the iraqi army is loyal to their generals, and the generals aren’t fighting amongst eachother, then I think it could work. Our national government is not very cogent when it comes to iraq policy but our troops fight on with a singular mission, because they obey commands from their superior officers, not Ted Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi.

]]> By: Matt Ortega http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183387 Matt Ortega Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:52:49 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183387 The 20,000 force increase will not do anything to quell the violence. It will bring us to around 153,000. In December 2005, there were 160,000. What makes supporters of escalation think that this time it will be different? I do not see a reason to do so. The 20,000 force increase will not do anything to quell the violence. It will bring us to around 153,000. In December 2005, there were 160,000.

What makes supporters of escalation think that this time it will be different? I do not see a reason to do so.

]]> By: Gary http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/comment-page-1/#comment-183292 Gary Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:48:50 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/01/10/lose-lose-lose/#comment-183292 I am glad I didn't watch it. I knew it would just make me want to make me punch the TV. I hope the Congress can put this moron in check! Check-mate would be really nice. I hope they have the balls to do what is necessary to save this country, and bring our soldiers home. I am glad I didn’t watch it. I knew it would just make me want to make me punch the TV.

I hope the Congress can put this moron in check!

Check-mate would be really nice. I hope they have the balls to do what is necessary to save this country, and bring our soldiers home.

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