Comments on: Never Assume. http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:48:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: m.takhallus http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-227458 m.takhallus Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:05:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-227458 Jeff: That's a personal judgment obviously and I could be 100% wrong. My instinct is that he fades. I think he flew too high, too fast, and has no machine to prop him up, or experience to fall back on. Jeff:

That’s a personal judgment obviously and I could be 100% wrong. My instinct is that he fades. I think he flew too high, too fast, and has no machine to prop him up, or experience to fall back on.

]]> By: Jeff http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-227056 Jeff Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:12:57 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-227056 Obama is fading? What evidence of there is this? How can he already be fading? He just started his campaign. Obama is fading? What evidence of there is this?

How can he already be fading? He just started his campaign.

]]> By: dz http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226917 dz Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:44:06 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226917 One is true. Two is wrong, not in 08 but maybe in 2012 if the GOP loses in 08. Point 3 is also true for the most part, but I am still holding out hope for Richardson. One is true. Two is wrong, not in 08 but maybe in 2012 if the GOP loses in 08. Point 3 is also true for the most part, but I am still holding out hope for Richardson.

]]> By: m.takhallus http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226906 m.takhallus Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:29:43 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226906 I should clarify I suppose given the names that I am "sideways." I should clarify I suppose given the names that I am “sideways.”

]]> By: m.takhallus http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226904 m.takhallus Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:27:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226904 "I love my brother. I love my father. But I'm not my brother or my father. I'm my own man. My name is Jeb." "I can't lay claim to my brother's successes, or his trials. I can only lay claim to my own." "My opponent, Mrs. Clinton, would not be the Democratic nominee if her name was not Clinton. I believe I would be the nominee of my party even if my name were not Bush." “I love my brother. I love my father. But I’m not my brother or my father. I’m my own man. My name is Jeb.”

“I can’t lay claim to my brother’s successes, or his trials. I can only lay claim to my own.”

“My opponent, Mrs. Clinton, would not be the Democratic nominee if her name was not Clinton. I believe I would be the nominee of my party even if my name were not Bush.”

]]> By: bob in fl http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226903 bob in fl Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:23:10 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226903 Points #2 & #3 scares the crap out of me. Although he has said he is out of the running, he could change his mind. And, yes, he would take Florida. I wish we were smarter than that down here, but we are not. And compared to both other Bushes, he appears squeaky clean with a popular record as governor of Florida. But he is just as far right wing as Cheney & Wolfowitz. If I was Al Gore, I would set my sights on the Presidency or nothing at all. Eight years as second banana didn't help him, & another 8 puts him out to pasture anyway. So he gains squat as VP. If, however, the Democratic convention became deadlocked, he would be a good choice to break the deadlock. And I believe he could win, even against Jeb, as long as he remains Al Gore & doesn't try to be what he thinks we want him to be as he did in 2000 & quits inventing the internet. Points #2 & #3 scares the crap out of me. Although he has said he is out of the running, he could change his mind. And, yes, he would take Florida. I wish we were smarter than that down here, but we are not. And compared to both other Bushes, he appears squeaky clean with a popular record as governor of Florida. But he is just as far right wing as Cheney & Wolfowitz.

If I was Al Gore, I would set my sights on the Presidency or nothing at all. Eight years as second banana didn’t help him, & another 8 puts him out to pasture anyway. So he gains squat as VP. If, however, the Democratic convention became deadlocked, he would be a good choice to break the deadlock. And I believe he could win, even against Jeb, as long as he remains Al Gore & doesn’t try to be what he thinks we want him to be as he did in 2000 & quits inventing the internet.

]]> By: Dustin http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226901 Dustin Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:16:01 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226901 Do you really believe, after all that Bush has done to tar his own family name, that Bill lying about a BJ will really be all that detrimental to Hillary's chances in the WH? I'm not so sure. And even though I'm not a Hillary supporter I don't really know how much it will matter who the democrats field in '08. Animosity towards the Bush administration being what it is what are the chances, realistically, of the republicans being able to get out from under GWB's shadow in time to salvage their carefully crafted reputation and win the presidency? Elections are referendum more often than not and the republicans gave us Bush, do you really see the public wanting 4-8 more years of what we've just gotten done with? Do you really believe, after all that Bush has done to tar his own family name, that Bill lying about a BJ will really be all that detrimental to Hillary’s chances in the WH? I’m not so sure. And even though I’m not a Hillary supporter I don’t really know how much it will matter who the democrats field in ‘08.
Animosity towards the Bush administration being what it is what are the chances, realistically, of the republicans being able to get out from under GWB’s shadow in time to salvage their carefully crafted reputation and win the presidency?
Elections are referendum more often than not and the republicans gave us Bush, do you really see the public wanting 4-8 more years of what we’ve just gotten done with?

]]> By: Jimmy the Dhimmi http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226900 Jimmy the Dhimmi Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:07:42 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226900 <blockquote>The Right doesn’t like McCain, won’t like Giuliani when they get to know him</blockquote> Giullianni is <a href='http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24318_Rudy_Giuliani_on_Hannity_and_Colmes&only' rel="nofollow">saying all the right things</a> to court conservatives right now, such as how he would pick Judges from the same crop as Roberts and Alito, he's got the same position on gay marriage as Pres. Bush, and he is a federalist on gun control. Conservatives really want a no-nonsense Giuliani type for the Commander-in-Chief, and they are <em>hoping</em> he will accomidate them on social issues. I think they will be pleased with what he has been saying so far, but look for the mainstream press to play up his personal views, despite his promises of federalism and judicial constructivism, because the MSM really doesn't want another pro-war republican president.

The Right doesn’t like McCain, won’t like Giuliani when they get to know him

Giullianni is saying all the right things to court conservatives right now, such as how he would pick Judges from the same crop as Roberts and Alito, he’s got the same position on gay marriage as Pres. Bush, and he is a federalist on gun control.

Conservatives really want a no-nonsense Giuliani type for the Commander-in-Chief, and they are hoping he will accomidate them on social issues. I think they will be pleased with what he has been saying so far, but look for the mainstream press to play up his personal views, despite his promises of federalism and judicial constructivism, because the MSM really doesn’t want another pro-war republican president.

]]> By: m.takhallus http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226884 m.takhallus Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:36:20 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226884 Dustin: Let's play pretend. Jeb vs. Hillary. How do the Dems talk about Bush fatigue? If they try to tar Jeb with George W, they open the way for Republicans tarring Hillary with Bill. Neither side can whine about dynaties. The voters would have no choice but a rerun. Jeb carries Florida. So tell me what state Hillary takes away from him? Dustin:

Let’s play pretend. Jeb vs. Hillary. How do the Dems talk about Bush fatigue? If they try to tar Jeb with George W, they open the way for Republicans tarring Hillary with Bill. Neither side can whine about dynaties. The voters would have no choice but a rerun.

Jeb carries Florida. So tell me what state Hillary takes away from him?

]]> By: Dustin http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226882 Dustin Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:28:03 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226882 At this point I don't really see anything Jeb could do that could sufficiently distance himself from the Bush legacy his brother has created. Sure he might sweep the Right, but at this point does that really count as an electable plus in the national sphere? At this point I don’t really see anything Jeb could do that could sufficiently distance himself from the Bush legacy his brother has created. Sure he might sweep the Right, but at this point does that really count as an electable plus in the national sphere?

]]> By: Justin Gardner http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/comment-page-1/#comment-226871 Justin Gardner Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:07:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/02/14/never-assume-2/#comment-226871 Glad to have you back Mike. Glad to have you back Mike.

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