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	<title>Comments on: Iraq War Perspective</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-276554</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, the point is not that we could be doing something better with these dollars.  The comparison I was specifically addressing was that the Iraq War is costing more than the Vietnam War -- sorry if I was not sufficiently clear on that.  Because, in constant dollars or even as a percentage of GDP, it isn&#039;t. 

We can always argue priorities for spending the Federal government&#039;s money.  But that&#039;s a different discussion from the relative prices of different wars at different point in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, the point is not that we could be doing something better with these dollars.  The comparison I was specifically addressing was that the Iraq War is costing more than the Vietnam War &#8212; sorry if I was not sufficiently clear on that.  Because, in constant dollars or even as a percentage of GDP, it isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>We can always argue priorities for spending the Federal government&#8217;s money.  But that&#8217;s a different discussion from the relative prices of different wars at different point in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-276489</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So what price exactly? The health of our nation? Our superpower status in the world? Or economic supremacy? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So what price exactly? The health of our nation? Our superpower status in the world? Or economic supremacy? </p></blockquote>
<p>Pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-276202</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, the numbers ARE NOT meaningless. This is real money that we&#039;re spending on wars that we could be spending on fixing our social security system, healthcare system, etc. But we aren&#039;t.

We can grouse all we want about comparing these dollars to those dollars, but in there and now, we could be doing better with our tax dollars, no? Seems like Iraq is a waste of tax dollars, yes? And it won&#039;t just be us paying for it, it&#039;ll be our grandkids. Still think the war is worth it? I certainly don&#039;t, especially if it&#039;s at the expense of our long term stability as a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, the numbers ARE NOT meaningless. This is real money that we&#8217;re spending on wars that we could be spending on fixing our social security system, healthcare system, etc. But we aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>We can grouse all we want about comparing these dollars to those dollars, but in there and now, we could be doing better with our tax dollars, no? Seems like Iraq is a waste of tax dollars, yes? And it won&#8217;t just be us paying for it, it&#8217;ll be our grandkids. Still think the war is worth it? I certainly don&#8217;t, especially if it&#8217;s at the expense of our long term stability as a country.</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-276004</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be a lot more impressed by statements about &quot;the most expensive [whatever] in history&quot; if the people making them ever, ever, adjusted the so-called &quot;costs&quot; for inflation.  

Between Vietnam and the first Gulf War, just for example, prices increased by a factor of about 10.  And inflation has continued in the decade and a half since.  Which means that Iraq could have a nominal cost of 10 times Vietnam, and still cost less in constant dollars -- which is the only meaningful way to compare costs (although the percentage of GDP comparison would also be a step forward). 

Note: this is not intended as a defense of any particular national policy.  It&#039;s strictly an expression of irritation of people making statements which are based on meaningless numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be a lot more impressed by statements about &#8220;the most expensive [whatever] in history&#8221; if the people making them ever, ever, adjusted the so-called &#8220;costs&#8221; for inflation.  </p>
<p>Between Vietnam and the first Gulf War, just for example, prices increased by a factor of about 10.  And inflation has continued in the decade and a half since.  Which means that Iraq could have a nominal cost of 10 times Vietnam, and still cost less in constant dollars &#8212; which is the only meaningful way to compare costs (although the percentage of GDP comparison would also be a step forward). </p>
<p>Note: this is not intended as a defense of any particular national policy.  It&#8217;s strictly an expression of irritation of people making statements which are based on meaningless numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: ford4x4</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-275999</link>
		<dc:creator>ford4x4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder the whole world hates us...   we&#039;re starving their children so we can play at war!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder the whole world hates us&#8230;   we&#8217;re starving their children so we can play at war!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-275959</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If these forces prevent the ascendancy of Salafist Islam in the 21st century, then it would be worth any price.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So what price exactly? The health of our nation? Our superpower status in the world? Or economic supremacy? 

Because make no mistake, that&#039;s what we&#039;re beginning to put at risk when we take our eye off the domestic policy and instead spend billions we don&#039;t have on wars we never needed to fight in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If these forces prevent the ascendancy of Salafist Islam in the 21st century, then it would be worth any price.</p></blockquote>
<p>So what price exactly? The health of our nation? Our superpower status in the world? Or economic supremacy? </p>
<p>Because make no mistake, that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re beginning to put at risk when we take our eye off the domestic policy and instead spend billions we don&#8217;t have on wars we never needed to fight in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/03/18/iraq-war-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-275927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a percentage of what the United States earns, only the first Gulf War was a less expensive American war.  &lt;a href=&#039;http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RdTV_Ok7JPI/AAAAAAAABqg/NpFyLT8SZ2k/s1600-h/cost+of+war.gif&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here to see what I mean.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Will we continue to be a liberating force that gets mired into hugely expensive conflicts that go on for years on end for little or no pay off?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If these forces prevent the ascendancy of Salafist Islam in the 21st century, then it would be worth any price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a percentage of what the United States earns, only the first Gulf War was a less expensive American war.  <a href='http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RdTV_Ok7JPI/AAAAAAAABqg/NpFyLT8SZ2k/s1600-h/cost+of+war.gif' rel="nofollow">Click here to see what I mean.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Will we continue to be a liberating force that gets mired into hugely expensive conflicts that go on for years on end for little or no pay off?</p></blockquote>
<p>If these forces prevent the ascendancy of Salafist Islam in the 21st century, then it would be worth any price.</p>
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