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		<title>By: wowgolds104</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-303519</link>
		<dc:creator>wowgolds104</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-301638</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob, what Joshua said.

The GIF or PNG idea is a good one. I've seen that done elsewhere, but I have yet to get around to it. Thanks for the remind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob, what Joshua said.</p>
<p>The GIF or PNG idea is a good one. I&#8217;ve seen that done elsewhere, but I have yet to get around to it. Thanks for the remind.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-301377</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Justin. You eliminated your email address from the letter to better avoid spammers. Then you post it later in your blog. WTF?&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, but he put it in a format that is unusable to spammers. Spammers looking for e-mail addresses don't troll Web sites themselves looking for e-mail addresses; they use bots to do the searching for them. But the bots are looking for text in the format of an e-mail address (username@domain.ext). The "@" and "." characters are the key.

Another alternative might be to create a GIF or PNG graphic file showing your e-mail address, upload it to an image-hosting service and call it as needed using HTML. Blogs may or may not support posting images in their comments sections, however, and since I've not had occasion to try it here, I have no idea whether Donklephant does or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Justin. You eliminated your email address from the letter to better avoid spammers. Then you post it later in your blog. WTF?</i></p>
<p>Ah, but he put it in a format that is unusable to spammers. Spammers looking for e-mail addresses don&#8217;t troll Web sites themselves looking for e-mail addresses; they use bots to do the searching for them. But the bots are looking for text in the format of an e-mail address (username@domain.ext). The &#8220;@&#8221; and &#8220;.&#8221; characters are the key.</p>
<p>Another alternative might be to create a GIF or PNG graphic file showing your e-mail address, upload it to an image-hosting service and call it as needed using HTML. Blogs may or may not support posting images in their comments sections, however, and since I&#8217;ve not had occasion to try it here, I have no idea whether Donklephant does or not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Independent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300118</link>
		<dc:creator>The Angry Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this warning....

I will try to make sure I avoid using ANYTHING listed on the Cagle site.

Anyone know of any Non-Cagle cartoon sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this warning&#8230;.</p>
<p>I will try to make sure I avoid using ANYTHING listed on the Cagle site.</p>
<p>Anyone know of any Non-Cagle cartoon sites?</p>
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		<title>By: bob in fl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300114</link>
		<dc:creator>bob in fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin.   You eliminated your email address from the letter to better avoid spammers. Then you post it later in your blog. WTF?

Your blog seems to indicate you borrowed your cartoons from this outfit. Now ask yourself, "Self, is it really ethical for me to do this." Just create another image., or talk with them about the offer of retroactive permission to use them. Neither of you can afford any kind of a court fight. when it relly comes down to is, "How important is it?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin.   You eliminated your email address from the letter to better avoid spammers. Then you post it later in your blog. WTF?</p>
<p>Your blog seems to indicate you borrowed your cartoons from this outfit. Now ask yourself, &#8220;Self, is it really ethical for me to do this.&#8221; Just create another image., or talk with them about the offer of retroactive permission to use them. Neither of you can afford any kind of a court fight. when it relly comes down to is, &#8220;How important is it?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300083</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe. Email me again. I didn't get it yet.

My email addy is justinpgardner at yahoo dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe. Email me again. I didn&#8217;t get it yet.</p>
<p>My email addy is justinpgardner at yahoo dot com</p>
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		<title>By: I Got A Cease And Desist Letter? &#124; The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300078</link>
		<dc:creator>I Got A Cease And Desist Letter? &#124; The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 04:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Find out why. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300037</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of crap.  Don't worry about it at all man.  No body's going to really take anyone to court over this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of crap.  Don&#8217;t worry about it at all man.  No body&#8217;s going to really take anyone to court over this.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mummah Jr</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300024</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mummah Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked their price list for cartoon licenses...it's$10, since your website is personal.  Their lawyer wouldn't even talk to them on the phone for a $20 license, much less file papers in court, which costs up to $200.  I say, if he actually CONTACTS you (by mail or phone), offer to link to his page...if he says no, advise him that you'll no longer be providing him free marketing...but leave up what's already up.   By the way, he's concerned about HIS money, not the cartoonists'.  

(I have to give you advice offline, so I will email you.)

   
  Here's a link to their pricing:
http://politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/34bafbce-4156-4483-98e9-b64237d38b17.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked their price list for cartoon licenses&#8230;it&#8217;s$10, since your website is personal.  Their lawyer wouldn&#8217;t even talk to them on the phone for a $20 license, much less file papers in court, which costs up to $200.  I say, if he actually CONTACTS you (by mail or phone), offer to link to his page&#8230;if he says no, advise him that you&#8217;ll no longer be providing him free marketing&#8230;but leave up what&#8217;s already up.   By the way, he&#8217;s concerned about HIS money, not the cartoonists&#8217;.  </p>
<p>(I have to give you advice offline, so I will email you.)</p>
<p>  Here&#8217;s a link to their pricing:<br />
<a href="http://politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/34bafbce-4156-4483-98e9-b64237d38b17.html" rel="nofollow">http://politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/34bafbce-4156-4483-98e9-b64237d38b17.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300021</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070326&#38;mode=classic" rel="nofollow"&gt;What happens to people who get too rigid about their copyrights.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070326&amp;mode=classic" rel="nofollow">What happens to people who get too rigid about their copyrights.</a></p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300018</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it is not worth it.  And in all serious, I doubt a Fair Use defense is very strong here.  However, it does seem like it wouldn't be cost-prohibitive for them to go after you. Better safe than sorry when nothing is involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it is not worth it.  And in all serious, I doubt a Fair Use defense is very strong here.  However, it does seem like it wouldn&#8217;t be cost-prohibitive for them to go after you. Better safe than sorry when nothing is involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Mummah</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-300015</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Mummah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy brian@cagle.com is a sales manager, not a lawyer...he may not even have anything to do with the entity which holds copyright to the cartoons.  Don't fall for scams, and if the guy is for real, don't worry about retroactive license.  If you cease when notified, most courts won't make you pay...most lawyers wouldn't take it to court if you complied with a CnD letter...plus...PLUSSS...they have to serve you papers to sue you...which means they need your address...he wants to scare you into agreeing to pay him money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy <a href="mailto:brian@cagle.com">brian@cagle.com</a> is a sales manager, not a lawyer&#8230;he may not even have anything to do with the entity which holds copyright to the cartoons.  Don&#8217;t fall for scams, and if the guy is for real, don&#8217;t worry about retroactive license.  If you cease when notified, most courts won&#8217;t make you pay&#8230;most lawyers wouldn&#8217;t take it to court if you complied with a CnD letter&#8230;plus&#8230;PLUSSS&#8230;they have to serve you papers to sue you&#8230;which means they need your address&#8230;he wants to scare you into agreeing to pay him money.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott's Morning Brew</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-299880</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott's Morning Brew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally?  I just removed all the cartoons from my site...  It probably could be argued successfully...  but I wouldn't have the time or the energy to do something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally?  I just removed all the cartoons from my site&#8230;  It probably could be argued successfully&#8230;  but I wouldn&#8217;t have the time or the energy to do something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-299804</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, that's tempting DP. 

I certainly think this could be argued, but I'm wondering if it's worth the time.

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, that&#8217;s tempting DP. </p>
<p>I certainly think this could be argued, but I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s worth the time.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: As blogs move toward &#34;Mainstream&#34;&#8230; : Scott&#8217;s Morning Brew</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-299775</link>
		<dc:creator>As blogs move toward &#34;Mainstream&#34;&#8230; : Scott&#8217;s Morning Brew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-299766</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll host ya...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll host ya&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/06/i-got-a-cease-and-desist-letter/#comment-299713</link>
		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know about you Justin, but when you posted those cartoons, I, at least, got an educational value from them, which would put them firmly in the area of fair use.  If you want me to deal with a bully, e-mail me.  I won't even charge your libby-dibby ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about you Justin, but when you posted those cartoons, I, at least, got an educational value from them, which would put them firmly in the area of fair use.  If you want me to deal with a bully, e-mail me.  I won&#8217;t even charge your libby-dibby ass.</p>
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